East Region Fan Poll

[lewdogg11]

Had two missed submissions again.  I used the preseason rankings for one of the missed pollsters.  Here are the results:

Week 1 Fan Poll  

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Delaware Valley( 6 )	1-0	84	1	vs. #7 Washington & Jefferson*
2   St. John Fisher( 2 )	1-0	80	2	at Buffalo State
3   Montclair State	0-0	70	3	vs. Westfield State
4   Alfred	1-0	47	5	Open Date
5   Union( 1 )	0-0	45	4	at #9 Ithaca
6   Cortland State	0-0	43	6t	at Kean
7   Hobart	0-0	29	8t	vs. Dickinson
8   Rowan	1-0	27	8t	Open Date
9   Ithaca	1-0	26	8t	vs. #5 Union
10  Springfield	1-0	14	NR	at Husson

Dropped Out:
#6t Lebanon Valley


Also Receiving votes:              
Kean 11
Lebanon Valley 11
RPI 7
Curry 1
                    
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (1,1,1,5,2,1,1,NR,1,2)
St. John Fisher (2,3,2,2,1,4,2,NR,2,1)
Montclair State (4,2,4,3,5,2,3,NR,3,3)
Alfred (5,5,6,4,NR,9,4,NR,4,4)
Union (3,NR,7,1,4,NR,6,NR,9,6)
Cortland (7,4,3,8,3,6,10,NR,9,6)
Hobart (8,6,8,NR,6,7,9,NR,8,7)
Rowan (10,8,10,10,9,5,5,NR,5,10)
Ithaca (9,7,5,7,8,10,7,NR,NR,9)
Springfield(6,NR,NR,9,7,NR,8,NR,7,NR)
Kean (NR,10,9,NR,10,8,NR,NR,7,NR)
Lebanon Valley (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,3,NR,NR,NR,8)
RPI (NR,9,NR,6,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Curry (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR)


Key Matchups:
#7 Washington & Jefferson* at #1 Delaware Valley
#5 Union at #9 Ithaca
#6 Cortland State at Kean


*Wash & Jeff ranking from South Region Preseason Fan Poll

Huh? can see not having dvc #1 but 5th?  
come on now...

It's the same jerk that has Union 1.  Dude is all over the place.

As one who bleeds Garnet dlip really cannot imagine any explanation that would convince him Union belongs at #1 right now, sorry.

The poll is supposed to be objective, not who do you like the most.

Knucklehead,
It's obviously not a Union supporter who put them at #1.

First off, i'm not a knucklehead, doe doe brain.  I did however, read dlip's post wrong.  I read it that he couldn't think of a reason why Union wouldn't be # 1 and was owning up to the poll.  But I was way off.  My apologies dlip.  U89 on the other hand, taste it.

[union89]

Fair enough......

[dlippiel]

Had two missed submissions again.  I used the preseason rankings for one of the missed pollsters.  Here are the results:

Week 1 Fan Poll  

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Delaware Valley( 6 )	1-0	84	1	vs. #7 Washington & Jefferson*
2   St. John Fisher( 2 )	1-0	80	2	at Buffalo State
3   Montclair State	0-0	70	3	vs. Westfield State
4   Alfred	1-0	47	5	Open Date
5   Union( 1 )	0-0	45	4	at #9 Ithaca
6   Cortland State	0-0	43	6t	at Kean
7   Hobart	0-0	29	8t	vs. Dickinson
8   Rowan	1-0	27	8t	Open Date
9   Ithaca	1-0	26	8t	vs. #5 Union
10  Springfield	1-0	14	NR	at Husson

Dropped Out:
#6t Lebanon Valley


Also Receiving votes:              
Kean 11
Lebanon Valley 11
RPI 7
Curry 1
                    
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (1,1,1,5,2,1,1,NR,1,2)
St. John Fisher (2,3,2,2,1,4,2,NR,2,1)
Montclair State (4,2,4,3,5,2,3,NR,3,3)
Alfred (5,5,6,4,NR,9,4,NR,4,4)
Union (3,NR,7,1,4,NR,6,NR,9,6)
Cortland (7,4,3,8,3,6,10,NR,9,6)
Hobart (8,6,8,NR,6,7,9,NR,8,7)
Rowan (10,8,10,10,9,5,5,NR,5,10)
Ithaca (9,7,5,7,8,10,7,NR,NR,9)
Springfield(6,NR,NR,9,7,NR,8,NR,7,NR)
Kean (NR,10,9,NR,10,8,NR,NR,7,NR)
Lebanon Valley (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,3,NR,NR,NR,8)
RPI (NR,9,NR,6,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Curry (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR)


Key Matchups:
#7 Washington & Jefferson* at #1 Delaware Valley
#5 Union at #9 Ithaca
#6 Cortland State at Kean


*Wash & Jeff ranking from South Region Preseason Fan Poll

Huh? can see not having dvc #1 but 5th?  
come on now...

It's the same jerk that has Union 1.  Dude is all over the place.

As one who bleeds Garnet dlip really cannot imagine any explanation that would convince him Union belongs at #1 right now, sorry.

The poll is supposed to be objective, not who do you like the most.

Knucklehead,
It's obviously not a Union supporter who put them at #1.

First off, i'm not a knucklehead, doe doe brain.  I did however, read dlip's post wrong.  I read it that he couldn't think of a reason why Union wouldn't be # 1 and was owning up to the poll.  But I was way off.  My apologies dlip.  U89 on the other hand, taste it.

No worries Lew you da man!

[AUKaz00]

I think part of the beauty of the poll is that any outliers typically get averaged out by the other voters.  It's hard to get worked up over the combined rankings after week 1, so I say we give this particular poster a couple weeks to be proven right or wrong by results.  He did have Union as #1 last week so it's hard to fault him for keeping them there since they didn't play.

[dlippiel]

I think part of the beauty of the poll is that any outliers typically get averaged out by the other voters.  It's hard to get worked up over the combined rankings after week 1, so I say we give this particular poster a couple weeks to be proven right or wrong by results.  He did have Union as #1 last week so it's hard to fault him for keeping them there since they didn't play.

dlip is not in anyway upset about him having Union #1. dlip just wanted to make it clear that dlip wasn't the poster who ranked them there. 

[SJFF82]

Had two missed submissions again.  I used the preseason rankings for one of the missed pollsters.  Here are the results:

Week 1 Fan Poll  

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Delaware Valley( 6 )	1-0	84	1	vs. #7 Washington & Jefferson*
2   St. John Fisher( 2 )	1-0	80	2	at Buffalo State
3   Montclair State	0-0	70	3	vs. Westfield State
4   Alfred	1-0	47	5	Open Date
5   Union( 1 )	0-0	45	4	at #9 Ithaca
6   Cortland State	0-0	43	6t	at Kean
7   Hobart	0-0	29	8t	vs. Dickinson
8   Rowan	1-0	27	8t	Open Date
9   Ithaca	1-0	26	8t	vs. #5 Union
10  Springfield	1-0	14	NR	at Husson

Dropped Out:
#6t Lebanon Valley


Also Receiving votes:              
Kean 11
Lebanon Valley 11
RPI 7
Curry 1
                    
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (1,1,1,5,2,1,1,NR,1,2)
St. John Fisher (2,3,2,2,1,4,2,NR,2,1)
Montclair State (4,2,4,3,5,2,3,NR,3,3)
Alfred (5,5,6,4,NR,9,4,NR,4,4)
Union (3,NR,7,1,4,NR,6,NR,9,6)
Cortland (7,4,3,8,3,6,10,NR,9,6)
Hobart (8,6,8,NR,6,7,9,NR,8,7)
Rowan (10,8,10,10,9,5,5,NR,5,10)
Ithaca (9,7,5,7,8,10,7,NR,NR,9)
Springfield(6,NR,NR,9,7,NR,8,NR,7,NR)
Kean (NR,10,9,NR,10,8,NR,NR,7,NR)
Lebanon Valley (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,3,NR,NR,NR,8)
RPI (NR,9,NR,6,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Curry (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR)


Key Matchups:
#7 Washington & Jefferson* at #1 Delaware Valley
#5 Union at #9 Ithaca
#6 Cortland State at Kean


*Wash & Jeff ranking from South Region Preseason Fan Poll

Huh? can see not having dvc #1 but 5th? 
come on now...

It's the same jerk that has Union 1.  Dude is all over the place.

As one who bleeds Garnet dlip really cannot imagine any explanation that would convince him Union belongs at #1 right now, sorry.

The poll is supposed to be objective, not who do you like the most.

Knucklehead,
It's obviously not a Union supporter who put them at #1.

...alright, I am thoroughly confused...why is it obvious that it is not a Union supporter...or are u being sarcastic?

[Jonny Utah]

And why is it so horrible that Union is ranked #1?  Maybe someone saw both them and Del Val last year and was more impressed with Union and what they are coming back with?  I mean if someone had RPI or Utica at #1 we would have a problem.

It should be noted that in my opinion Union had an above average season last year in terms of wins, quality wins, and impressive wins.  By St. Lawrence standards that would be a great season, but by Union standards (or Ithacas) I would call it above average.  Just my opinion.

[lewdogg11]

And why is it so horrible that Union is ranked #1?  Maybe someone saw both them and Del Val last year and was more impressed with Union and what they are coming back with?  I mean if someone had RPI or Utica at #1 we would have a problem.

It should be noted that in my opinion Union had an above average season last year in terms of wins, quality wins, and impressive wins.  By St. Lawrence standards that would be a great season, but by Union standards (or Ithacas) I would call it above average.  Just my opinion.

They may end up the # 1 team, but as of right now, they do not deserve to be there.

And please don't put RPI and Utica in the same sentence ever again.

[union89]

Had two missed submissions again.  I used the preseason rankings for one of the missed pollsters.  Here are the results:

Week 1 Fan Poll  

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Delaware Valley( 6 )	1-0	84	1	vs. #7 Washington & Jefferson*
2   St. John Fisher( 2 )	1-0	80	2	at Buffalo State
3   Montclair State	0-0	70	3	vs. Westfield State
4   Alfred	1-0	47	5	Open Date
5   Union( 1 )	0-0	45	4	at #9 Ithaca
6   Cortland State	0-0	43	6t	at Kean
7   Hobart	0-0	29	8t	vs. Dickinson
8   Rowan	1-0	27	8t	Open Date
9   Ithaca	1-0	26	8t	vs. #5 Union
10  Springfield	1-0	14	NR	at Husson

Dropped Out:
#6t Lebanon Valley


Also Receiving votes:              
Kean 11
Lebanon Valley 11
RPI 7
Curry 1
                    
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (1,1,1,5,2,1,1,NR,1,2)
St. John Fisher (2,3,2,2,1,4,2,NR,2,1)
Montclair State (4,2,4,3,5,2,3,NR,3,3)
Alfred (5,5,6,4,NR,9,4,NR,4,4)
Union (3,NR,7,1,4,NR,6,NR,9,6)
Cortland (7,4,3,8,3,6,10,NR,9,6)
Hobart (8,6,8,NR,6,7,9,NR,8,7)
Rowan (10,8,10,10,9,5,5,NR,5,10)
Ithaca (9,7,5,7,8,10,7,NR,NR,9)
Springfield(6,NR,NR,9,7,NR,8,NR,7,NR)
Kean (NR,10,9,NR,10,8,NR,NR,7,NR)
Lebanon Valley (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,3,NR,NR,NR,8)
RPI (NR,9,NR,6,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Curry (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR)


Key Matchups:
#7 Washington & Jefferson* at #1 Delaware Valley
#5 Union at #9 Ithaca
#6 Cortland State at Kean


*Wash & Jeff ranking from South Region Preseason Fan Poll

Huh? can see not having dvc #1 but 5th? 
come on now...

It's the same jerk that has Union 1.  Dude is all over the place.

As one who bleeds Garnet dlip really cannot imagine any explanation that would convince him Union belongs at #1 right now, sorry.

The poll is supposed to be objective, not who do you like the most.

Knucklehead,
It's obviously not a Union supporter who put them at #1.

...alright, I am thoroughly confused...why is it obvious that it is not a Union supporter...or are u being sarcastic?

dlip is the Union representative in the polling process.

[PBR...]

And why is it so horrible that Union is ranked #1?  Maybe someone saw both them and Del Val last year and was more impressed with Union and what they are coming back with?  I mean if someone had RPI or Utica at #1 we would have a problem.

It should be noted that in my opinion Union had an above average season last year in terms of wins, quality wins, and impressive wins.  By St. Lawrence standards that would be a great season, but by Union standards (or Ithacas) I would call it above average.  Just my opinion.

didnt have a problem really w/ union #1 in their poll what pbr was questioning was having dvc at #5. No problem imho if dvc is 1-3 in the poll but to this person there is no way logically to put them #5 unless you have a huge ax to grind or your just a homer and put your favorite team #1 and just kinda fill out the ballot w/o any real thought or reason

[SJFF82]

Had two missed submissions again.  I used the preseason rankings for one of the missed pollsters.  Here are the results:

Week 1 Fan Poll  

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Delaware Valley( 6 )	1-0	84	1	vs. #7 Washington & Jefferson*
2   St. John Fisher( 2 )	1-0	80	2	at Buffalo State
3   Montclair State	0-0	70	3	vs. Westfield State
4   Alfred	1-0	47	5	Open Date
5   Union( 1 )	0-0	45	4	at #9 Ithaca
6   Cortland State	0-0	43	6t	at Kean
7   Hobart	0-0	29	8t	vs. Dickinson
8   Rowan	1-0	27	8t	Open Date
9   Ithaca	1-0	26	8t	vs. #5 Union
10  Springfield	1-0	14	NR	at Husson

Dropped Out:
#6t Lebanon Valley


Also Receiving votes:              
Kean 11
Lebanon Valley 11
RPI 7
Curry 1
                    
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (1,1,1,5,2,1,1,NR,1,2)
St. John Fisher (2,3,2,2,1,4,2,NR,2,1)
Montclair State (4,2,4,3,5,2,3,NR,3,3)
Alfred (5,5,6,4,NR,9,4,NR,4,4)
Union (3,NR,7,1,4,NR,6,NR,9,6)
Cortland (7,4,3,8,3,6,10,NR,9,6)
Hobart (8,6,8,NR,6,7,9,NR,8,7)
Rowan (10,8,10,10,9,5,5,NR,5,10)
Ithaca (9,7,5,7,8,10,7,NR,NR,9)
Springfield(6,NR,NR,9,7,NR,8,NR,7,NR)
Kean (NR,10,9,NR,10,8,NR,NR,7,NR)
Lebanon Valley (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,3,NR,NR,NR,8)
RPI (NR,9,NR,6,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Curry (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR)


Key Matchups:
#7 Washington & Jefferson* at #1 Delaware Valley
#5 Union at #9 Ithaca
#6 Cortland State at Kean


*Wash & Jeff ranking from South Region Preseason Fan Poll

Huh? can see not having dvc #1 but 5th? 
come on now...

It's the same jerk that has Union 1.  Dude is all over the place.

As one who bleeds Garnet dlip really cannot imagine any explanation that would convince him Union belongs at #1 right now, sorry.

The poll is supposed to be objective, not who do you like the most.

Knucklehead,
It's obviously not a Union supporter who put them at #1.

...alright, I am thoroughly confused...why is it obvious that it is not a Union supporter...or are u being sarcastic?

dlip is the Union representative in the polling process.

oh yeah...duh. you can call me knucklehead now.

[Jonny Utah]

And why is it so horrible that Union is ranked #1?  Maybe someone saw both them and Del Val last year and was more impressed with Union and what they are coming back with?  I mean if someone had RPI or Utica at #1 we would have a problem.

It should be noted that in my opinion Union had an above average season last year in terms of wins, quality wins, and impressive wins.  By St. Lawrence standards that would be a great season, but by Union standards (or Ithacas) I would call it above average.  Just my opinion.

didnt have a problem really w/ union #1 in their poll what pbr was questioning was having dvc at #5. No problem imho if dvc is 1-3 in the poll but to this person there is no way logically to put them #5 unless you have a huge ax to grind or your just a homer and put your favorite team #1 and just kinda fill out the ballot w/o any real thought or reason

Yea you are right, you would really have to explain not having DVC in the top 3.

But we can all agree that RPI and Utica are going to have better years this year.  After all, they are RPI and Utica.

[boobyhasgameyo]

And why is it so horrible that Union is ranked #1?  Maybe someone saw both them and Del Val last year and was more impressed with Union and what they are coming back with?  I mean if someone had RPI or Utica at #1 we would have a problem.

It should be noted that in my opinion Union had an above average season last year in terms of wins, quality wins, and impressive wins.  By St. Lawrence standards that would be a great season, but by Union standards (or Ithacas) I would call it above average.  Just my opinion.

didnt have a problem really w/ union #1 in their poll what pbr was questioning was having dvc at #5. No problem imho if dvc is 1-3 in the poll but to this person there is no way logically to put them #5 unless you have a huge ax to grind or your just a homer and put your favorite team #1 and just kinda fill out the ballot w/o any real thought or reason

Yea you are right, you would really have to explain not having DVC in the top 3.

But we can all agree that RPI and Utica are going to have better years this year.  After all, they are RPI and Utica.

haha +k for making me laugh out loud on that one

[AUKaz00]

And why is it so horrible that Union is ranked #1?  Maybe someone saw both them and Del Val last year and was more impressed with Union and what they are coming back with?  I mean if someone had RPI or Utica at #1 we would have a problem.

It should be noted that in my opinion Union had an above average season last year in terms of wins, quality wins, and impressive wins.  By St. Lawrence standards that would be a great season, but by Union standards (or Ithacas) I would call it above average.  Just my opinion.

didnt have a problem really w/ union #1 in their poll what pbr was questioning was having dvc at #5. No problem imho if dvc is 1-3 in the poll but to this person there is no way logically to put them #5 unless you have a huge ax to grind or your just a homer and put your favorite team #1 and just kinda fill out the ballot w/o any real thought or reason

Well, just to play devil's advocate, this pollster has Union 1, which we've already covered, and their top 5 has remained the same from their preseason so whether we agree or disagree, they are consistent.  After Union comes Fisher and Montclair, two of the consensus top 3 in our poll.  Then comes Alfred which is likely considered more of a stretch, though the Saxons did not lose as badly to Albright in the playoffs which should really have no bearing on this year's rankings, but could be part of the equation for this pollster who likes what Alfred is bringing back.  As an Alfred fan, I don't agree, but just like dlip I don't mind!

[PBR...]

And why is it so horrible that Union is ranked #1?  Maybe someone saw both them and Del Val last year and was more impressed with Union and what they are coming back with?  I mean if someone had RPI or Utica at #1 we would have a problem.

It should be noted that in my opinion Union had an above average season last year in terms of wins, quality wins, and impressive wins.  By St. Lawrence standards that would be a great season, but by Union standards (or Ithacas) I would call it above average.  Just my opinion.

didnt have a problem really w/ union #1 in their poll what pbr was questioning was having dvc at #5. No problem imho if dvc is 1-3 in the poll but to this person there is no way logically to put them #5 unless you have a huge ax to grind or your just a homer and put your favorite team #1 and just kinda fill out the ballot w/o any real thought or reason

Yea you are right, you would really have to explain not having DVC in the top 3.

But we can all agree that RPI and Utica are going to have better years this year.  After all, they are RPI and Utica.

LOL...+k