East Region Fan Poll

Started by pg04, July 05, 2007, 09:44:54 PM

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pg04

IMO, as a person who does not vote anymore, beating both Wesley and Cortland, no matter how they did it, should put them over every team in the east.  Kean may trip up this week, but I would have them at 1.

Yanks 99

I have said for a few years that I don't put too much stock in the National polls, as most of the teams hardly every play each other.  Once you get outside of #1 and #2 (Mt. Union and U-WW), #3 through #20 all look the same to me.

That being said, Wesley is a quality program...and Kean won.  Then, they went on the road and beat Cortland in their own house.  Let's say we ignore the win over Wesley (as it was "out of region")...to me it is absolute crazy talk that Cortland should be ranked ahead of Kean.  This isn't even a situation where they have the same record (ie...each have a 3-1 record, with one beating the other and then losing some other game).  Kean is undefeated...and beat Cortland at Cortland.

I am still very, very high on Cortland.  I had them ranked #1 to start the year.  But they haven't looked like world beaters yet this year.  They struggled against an improved (yet still only 1-3) Buff State team, where they were actually down until late in the 3rd.  Then they lost to Kean at home, and struggled against Rowan (who hasn't looked that impressive at all...sitting at 1-2 and only beating Brockport).

Head to head match-ups have to mean something...otherwise simply pencil in Cortland at #2 for the rest of the year and call it a day.
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dlippiel

It was dlip who had Kean at #8 by mistake. dlip has iti right on his home computer but must have ****ed up his message to AU, sorry fellas, dlip is batting 1,000 the past two weeks  ???. Anyway here is how dlips poll should look  :o ...he said poll should look... :o

Alfred
Cortland
Kean
Montclair
Salisbury
Del Val
Bart
Springfield
Rowan
Albright

Yes, looking at the Cortland game's box score and reading posts about the game from many who were there and Keans ****ing awful performance against one of the worst teams in the entire east, dlip feels it appropriate to believe, that this week, even with the head to head loss, Cortland is a better team than Kean. Definitely up for debate though and dlip can see both sides. dlip is sorry to get everyone in a stir with his mistake, sorry fellas.

Yanks 99

Quote from: dlip on September 27, 2011, 11:11:08 AM
It was dlip who had Kean at #8 by mistake. dlip has iti right on his home computer but must have ****ed up his message to AU, sorry fellas, dlip is batting 1,000 the past two weeks  ???. Anyway here is how dlips poll should look  :o ...he said poll should look... :o

Alfred
Cortland
Kean
Montclair
Salisbury
Del Val
Bart
Springfield
Rowan
Albright

Yes, looking at the Cortland game's box score and reading posts about the game from many who were there and Keans ****ing awful performance against one of the worst teams in the entire east, dlip feels it appropriate to believe, that this week, even with the head to head loss, Cortland is a better team than Kean. Definitely up for debate though and dlip can see both sides. dlip is sorry to get everyone in a stir with his mistake, sorry fellas.

It's all good dlip...while I disagree with your rankings, its your opinion and you are entitled to it.  Also...it's only Tuesday, so what else are we supposed to talk about!!!
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pumkinattack

All good commentary, which was all I was trying to hear/see.  Fair points on Kean, but it's hard to ignore when the gap between their top 2 wins and everyone else's strikes me as pretty wide - which is why I have them #1.  Kaz can tell you my rankings have been pretty volatile every week as this season begins to shake out (see UofR having my #10 until the SJF game, when the Case win looked pretty decent). 

Doid23

Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 27, 2011, 11:33:50 AM
  Also...it's only Tuesday, so what else are we supposed to talk about!!!

Oh, I don't know, the Red Sox collapse?

maxpower

Yeah it's a good time to be a sports fan for pretty much any New York team right now.... 'cept the Jets.

Yanks 99

Quote from: Doid23 on September 27, 2011, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 27, 2011, 11:33:50 AM
  Also...it's only Tuesday, so what else are we supposed to talk about!!!

Oh, I don't know, the Red Sox collapse?

I was going to wait until they were officially through...but it is hard to ignore a collapse of such historic proportion...I mean, they had a 9 game lead for the wild card on the night of September 3rd...24 days later, they are all tied up.
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lewdogg11

Quote from: maxpower on September 27, 2011, 01:09:41 PM
Yeah it's a good time to be a sports fan for pretty much any New York team right now.... 'cept the Jets.

Totally!  The Bills just won the Super Bowl for crying out loud!!!

oh wait...

lewdogg11

Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 27, 2011, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: Doid23 on September 27, 2011, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 27, 2011, 11:33:50 AM
  Also...it's only Tuesday, so what else are we supposed to talk about!!!

Oh, I don't know, the Red Sox collapse?

I was going to wait until they were officially through...but it is hard to ignore a collapse of such historic proportion...I mean, they had a 9 game lead for the wild card on the night of September 3rd...24 days later, they are all tied up.

As an extreme old school Red Sox fan, I hope they don't make it, because this team is so hard to like, and I just would have a hard time cheering for them.  They have no heart.  But all the fans at the game get to sing Sweet Caroline win or lose, so that is all they care about.  Ugh, makes me nauseous.


Yanks 99

Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 27, 2011, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 27, 2011, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: Doid23 on September 27, 2011, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on September 27, 2011, 11:33:50 AM
  Also...it's only Tuesday, so what else are we supposed to talk about!!!

Oh, I don't know, the Red Sox collapse?

I was going to wait until they were officially through...but it is hard to ignore a collapse of such historic proportion...I mean, they had a 9 game lead for the wild card on the night of September 3rd...24 days later, they are all tied up.

As an extreme old school Red Sox fan, I hope they don't make it, because this team is so hard to like, and I just would have a hard time cheering for them.  They have no heart.  But all the fans at the game get to sing Sweet Caroline win or lose, so that is all they care about.  Ugh, makes me nauseous.

I actually don't know what to think about what is going on with the Sox.  My head tells me that should they be put out of their misery and collapse, as a Yankees fan it would make me laugh.  But that would mean a very, very hot Rays team could get into the playoffs and cause some trouble.

I have also noticed in major several sports over the past few years that when teams that are doing well during the season hit the skids near the end of it, and limp into the post season that they become extremely dangerous. 
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Bombers798891

The Red Sox are like the Keystone cops right now. Wild pitches. Passed balls. Catchers dropping the exchanges or throwing relays into left field. Even the Ellsbury play from last night, which was admittedly a tough play, I mean it just looked awkward the way he fell and bobbled it.

The injuries have been tough to overcome, but some of it makes you shake your head. The Red Sox trying to trade for a pitcher, at this stage, just to throw him in there? It's like a kid running to a bookstore a 9:57 because he's got a report due the next day but he left the book in his locker, and when he sees the book is sold out, says "Screw it" and buys the Cliffs notes. And this is a team with a payroll approaching $200 million? It's like in 2006 when the Yankees were down 2-1 in the ALDS and they threw Jared Wright on the mound. These things end badly in most cases

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Bombers798891 on September 27, 2011, 01:30:27 PM
The Red Sox are like the Keystone cops right now. Wild pitches. Passed balls. Catchers dropping the exchanges or throwing relays into left field. Even the Ellsbury play from last night, which was admittedly a tough play, I mean it just looked awkward the way he fell and bobbled it.

The injuries have been tough to overcome, but some of it makes you shake your head. The Red Sox trying to trade for a pitcher, at this stage, just to throw him in there? It's like a kid running to a bookstore a 9:57 because he's got a report due the next day but he left the book in his locker, and when he sees the book is sold out, says "Screw it" and buys the Cliffs notes. And this is a team with a payroll approaching $200 million? It's like in 2006 when the Yankees were down 2-1 in the ALDS and they threw Jared Wright on the mound. These things end badly in most cases

Lets face it.  The Red Sox didn't buy the right players this year.  Don't worry, they have the same 300 million to spend next year.  Kind of like a craps game.

pg04

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lewdogg11

Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on September 27, 2011, 01:40:20 PM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on September 27, 2011, 01:30:27 PM
The Red Sox are like the Keystone cops right now. Wild pitches. Passed balls. Catchers dropping the exchanges or throwing relays into left field. Even the Ellsbury play from last night, which was admittedly a tough play, I mean it just looked awkward the way he fell and bobbled it.

The injuries have been tough to overcome, but some of it makes you shake your head. The Red Sox trying to trade for a pitcher, at this stage, just to throw him in there? It's like a kid running to a bookstore a 9:57 because he's got a report due the next day but he left the book in his locker, and when he sees the book is sold out, says "Screw it" and buys the Cliffs notes. And this is a team with a payroll approaching $200 million? It's like in 2006 when the Yankees were down 2-1 in the ALDS and they threw Jared Wright on the mound. These things end badly in most cases

Lets face it.  The Red Sox didn't buy the right players this year.  Don't worry, they have the same 300 million to spend next year.  Kind of like a craps game.

And more particular, they bought 1 really wrong player...Carl Crawford.  I think Crawford's attitude has spread the the entire team.  And JD Drew is exactly what I hate about this team.  I've never watched a guy strike out on 3 pitches more gracefully in my life.