East Region Fan Poll

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Pat Coleman

Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 01, 2007, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: pg04 on October 01, 2007, 12:58:04 AM
If we were to hash out the Eastern Region top 10, using the D3football.com top 25, it would look like this:

1.  Fisher #10
2.  Rowan #19
3.  Alfred #20
4.  Montclair State #22
5.  RPI (25 Votes)
6.  Hartwick (3 votes)
7.  TCNJ (2 votes)

There are no other Eastern teams receiving votes. 


I'm amazed how the poll voters have such a hard time letting go of their early votes...Montclair finally broke into the pollsters minds, and then they go and lose to TCNJ, and Montclair is still up at #22, but TCNJ receives 2 votes?  That makes sense. 

TCNJ got two votes too many, considering Muhlenberg didn't get any.

Sometimes results are just flukes. What we're not sure as voters is which one -- is Montclair/Wesley the fluke or is Montclair/TCNJ? They can't both be truly representative of Montclair State.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2007, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 01, 2007, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: pg04 on October 01, 2007, 12:58:04 AM
If we were to hash out the Eastern Region top 10, using the D3football.com top 25, it would look like this:

1.  Fisher #10
2.  Rowan #19
3.  Alfred #20
4.  Montclair State #22
5.  RPI (25 Votes)
6.  Hartwick (3 votes)
7.  TCNJ (2 votes)

There are no other Eastern teams receiving votes. 


I'm amazed how the poll voters have such a hard time letting go of their early votes...Montclair finally broke into the pollsters minds, and then they go and lose to TCNJ, and Montclair is still up at #22, but TCNJ receives 2 votes?  That makes sense. 

TCNJ got two votes too many, considering Muhlenberg didn't get any.

Sometimes results are just flukes. What we're not sure as voters is which one -- is Montclair/Wesley the fluke or is Montclair/TCNJ? They can't both be truly representative of Montclair State.

No but based on WHEN they happened, I think holds a little more weight.  TCNJ and Hartwick lost early on, to teams that definately don't deserve much consideration, but since then, they have both posted some impressive wins. 

Pat Coleman

TCNJ has posted one impressive win in a rivalry game and played two nothing games.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

lewdogg11

I see I don't have a chance in this conversation, which is fine.  But who has St. John Fisher beaten this year???  They lost to 3 vote Hartwick, and slip to 10th?  Granted, they beat Ithaca, but Ithaca seems to be somewhat mediocre this year.  Just a thought...Ithaca lost to highly ranked Fisher and the team that beat the highly ranked Fisher and they are nowhere to be seen. 

I know that's why it's a poll, and it always works itself out, and just ont his board, i've realized how difficult it is week to week ranking these teams, but sometimes, you just gotta let go when a team isn't as good as you thought...

Pat Coleman

Ithaca could use one or two votes, but as you pointed out, only seven teams in the East actually got votes.

If I had been the person who voted for TCNJ and needed to throw votes at someone in the East, it'd have been Ithaca instead.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

JT

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2007, 12:10:11 PM
Ithaca could use one or two votes, but as you pointed out, only seven teams in the East actually got votes.

If I had been the person who voted for TCNJ and needed to throw votes at someone in the East, it'd have been Ithaca instead.

And it wasn't me that voted for TCNJ.  I've got a top 40 that I keep, TCNJ and Ithaca are there just not in my top 25.  I'll see TCNJ Friday night, but still have Muhlenberg ahead of both Ithaca and TCNJ.  And I have St. Olaf's in front of all three.

Montclair has a very good defense and a solid offense, and I think TCNJ was truely an upset.  I couldn't take Montclair out after their performance in the two previous weeks.  TCNJ is strong defensively and they've been known to give Rowan fits.  So a lot remains up in the air.

union89

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2007, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 01, 2007, 09:05:13 AM
Quote from: pg04 on October 01, 2007, 12:58:04 AM
If we were to hash out the Eastern Region top 10, using the D3football.com top 25, it would look like this:

1.  Fisher #10
2.  Rowan #19
3.  Alfred #20
4.  Montclair State #22
5.  RPI (25 Votes)
6.  Hartwick (3 votes)
7.  TCNJ (2 votes)

There are no other Eastern teams receiving votes. 


I'm amazed how the poll voters have such a hard time letting go of their early votes...Montclair finally broke into the pollsters minds, and then they go and lose to TCNJ, and Montclair is still up at #22, but TCNJ receives 2 votes?  That makes sense. 

TCNJ got two votes too many, considering Muhlenberg didn't get any.

Sometimes results are just flukes. What we're not sure as voters is which one -- is Montclair/Wesley the fluke or is Montclair/TCNJ? They can't both be truly representative of Montclair State.


Saw that this morning....how can Muhlenberg be outside of anyones Top 25??

Pat Coleman

Easily. What has any Centennial team done since, say, 1999 to merit inclusion?
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2007, 03:10:07 PM
Easily. What has any Centennial team done since, say, 1999 to merit inclusion?

You would think they would be included before TCNJ though right?

Pat Coleman

I think I've already posted above how I feel about that vote. :)
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

union89

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2007, 03:10:07 PM
Easily. What has any Centennial team done since, say, 1999 to merit inclusion?

Based off their performance here in '07, I can't see how you can omit them.  Muhlenburg opened the season with a shut out of TCNJ (limiting them to 91 TOTAL yards), then shut out Union the next week (limiting them to 87 TOTAL yards).....those two convincing wins, combined with a 4-0 record should garner some Top 25 recogition IMO.....

union89

Pat, wouldn't you rank Muhlenburg at least ahead of Montclair it they were an East Region team?

Pat Coleman

No, I don't think so. Because Muhlenberg doesn't have a win nearly as impressive as Montclair's win at Wesley.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

PBR...

good point pat, seems to be some new faces showing up in the powers that be in d3 football. over the last several years wesley and salisbury both have gotten better and better and keep improving on their previous years performance. (pbr says this not because dvc played and lost to them both this year) wesley is a very good team and monclairs win on their field was very impressive and cannot be discounted. while muhlenberg has played well so far they dont have that strong of a quality win yet alone on another teams field. pbr agrees and would at this point have to put monty ahead of the mules..

Boxer7806

what abour curry? do they make a move up the poles becuase of this... becuase honestly i dont think they should move up because they have not beat a winning team this year...the only win to their credit is their 49-3 thrashing of WNEC who somehow beat Hartwick handily to open the year