East Region Fan Poll

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Bombers798891

Since we talked about this earlier, I thought it would be relevant to post:

http://articles.philly.com/2012-09-27/sports/34128305_1_widener-chris-haupt-issue

Widener's coach discusses the issue of the 90-0 game, and frankly, comes across really classy. He seems to clearly regret that the game went the way that it did, and says he'd do certain things differently. Good for him.

I'm surprised however, that while the writer seems to say that the game reached "embarrassing" levels, he had no problem with Haupt's 6th TD pass that made it 62-0. It seems to me, that if you truly want games to not be embarrassing, you'd want starters to be pulled sooner, rather than later.

Regardless, good to see that this was something Widener's coach has given some thought to.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Bombers798891 on September 28, 2012, 09:54:20 AM
Since we talked about this earlier, I thought it would be relevant to post:

http://articles.philly.com/2012-09-27/sports/34128305_1_widener-chris-haupt-issue

Widener's coach discusses the issue of the 90-0 game, and frankly, comes across really classy. He seems to clearly regret that the game went the way that it did, and says he'd do certain things differently. Good for him.

I'm surprised however, that while the writer seems to say that the game reached "embarrassing" levels, he had no problem with Haupt's 6th TD pass that made it 62-0. It seems to me, that if you truly want games to not be embarrassing, you'd want starters to be pulled sooner, rather than later.

Regardless, good to see that this was something Widener's coach has given some thought to.

I think a key point here that everyone is overlooking is that the coaches between Widener and Wilkes were not at each others throats and the Wilkes coach seemed to understand.  I'm guessing most if not all of us, were NOT at the game, so it's hard to just look at box scores and scoring plays.  Organically, if a team really lays an egg, it's possible to score without trying to run up the score.

lewdogg11

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Why do I really want to go to the NESCAC boards and give my weekly predictions with all games ending in a gentleman's tie????

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 28, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
Why do I really want to go to the NESCAC boards and give my weekly predictions with all games ending in a gentleman's tie????

Wait, they keep score in NESCAC games?
I was small but made up for it by being slow...

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dlippiel

Quote from: LewDogg11 on September 28, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
Why do I really want to go to the NESCAC boards and give my weekly predictions with all games ending in a gentleman's tie????

Yes but sometimes after tea dlip heard they can get a tad serious over there. You can tell when they put their sweaters over their shoulders

wesleydad

the rowan/brockport result was as I expected.  original thought was that I could not see how rowan could be left out of top 10 in east and they showed it yesterday.  they are not on the level of salisbury, but the defense is pretty good.  also, a little surprized that the gulls only scored 20 on buff st.  seems like the d for buff st can show up and play the top teams, too bad they dont play that way against lesser opponents.  hold UWW to 6 and the Gulls to 20, cant figure it out.

Frank Rossi

Dear LD,

Have a double dose:



However, since you're such a cool dood, here's a little gift for playing:



Sincerely,
Frank

lewdogg11

Quote from: Frank Rossi on September 30, 2012, 12:00:13 PM
Dear LD,

Have a double dose:



However, since you're such a cool dood, here's a little gift for playing:



Sincerely,
Frank

Why do you keep coming at me?  I didn't say a word to you this past week.  RPI losing is disgusting and it's why I can't stand rooting for them anymore.  They always lose a game or 2 to a sh!t team.  I won't be a little program b!tch like you though and tell them losing to MMA was ok because they tried hard.  Enjoy your HUGE win little man.

lewdogg11

On to more important things with smaller egos...

I thought I had this ERFP figured out last week and once again we get toppled over.  Here is what I submitted.  I had a hard time dropping Buff St. with a 2-3 record since they beat UWW but it had to be done(sorry dlip, just messing).  Widener showed they are solid.  Cortland is making their way back up on my radar.  And it's now impossible to ignore Ithaca.  After the top 5, you could insert about 8-10 teams.  One of these weeks the planets will align and the East Region and all things will go as expected.

   
1   Salisbury (3-1)
2   Hobart (5-0)
3   St. John Fisher (4-0)
4   Widener (5-0)
5   Rowan (4-1)
6   Lycoming (4-1)
7   Cortland (4-1)
8   Salve Regina (5-0)
9   Ithaca (4-0)
10   Lebanon Valley (3-2)

mattvsmith

I realize that I am commenting about the national top 25, not regional, but please allow The Rev to calmly and rationally say that he is neither surprised nor upset by Hobart remaining #12. It makes sense. Yes, it was a stellar win, but it was against a bottom-feeder.
With that said, The Rev anxiously awaits tougher opponents and wonders how Hobart will fare if it goes undefeated. Honestly, I can't see the rank going much higher due to the LL's position as a conference.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on October 01, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
I realize that I am commenting about the national top 25, not regional, but please allow The Rev to calmly and rationally say that he is neither surprised nor upset by Hobart remaining #12. It makes sense. Yes, it was a stellar win, but it was against a bottom-feeder.
With that said, The Rev anxiously awaits tougher opponents and wonders how Hobart will fare if it goes undefeated. Honestly, I can't see the rank going much higher due to the LL's position as a conference.

I'd agree with that.  12 is a very respectable ranking right now.  The LL is a sad state of affairs at the moment.  Hobart might not see a major bump until the playoffs, even if they win out.

Bombers798891

Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on October 01, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
I realize that I am commenting about the national top 25, not regional, but please allow The Rev to calmly and rationally say that he is neither surprised nor upset by Hobart remaining #12. It makes sense. Yes, it was a stellar win, but it was against a bottom-feeder.
With that said, The Rev anxiously awaits tougher opponents and wonders how Hobart will fare if it goes undefeated. Honestly, I can't see the rank going much higher due to the LL's position as a conference.

If Hobart runs the table, they will have a chance to climb. Bethel's still got St. Thomas, and Salisbury has to play Fisher. I could see Hobart passing Bethel and the loser of the SJF/Salisbury game. But they've risen 10 spots in the poll despite lacking a marquee win. Not too bad

SUADC

Quote from: Bombers798891 on October 01, 2012, 11:47:01 AM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on October 01, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
I realize that I am commenting about the national top 25, not regional, but please allow The Rev to calmly and rationally say that he is neither surprised nor upset by Hobart remaining #12. It makes sense. Yes, it was a stellar win, but it was against a bottom-feeder.
With that said, The Rev anxiously awaits tougher opponents and wonders how Hobart will fare if it goes undefeated. Honestly, I can't see the rank going much higher due to the LL's position as a conference.

If Hobart runs the table, they will have a chance to climb. Bethel's still got St. Thomas, and Salisbury has to play Fisher. I could see Hobart passing Bethel and the loser of the SJF/Salisbury game. But they've risen 10 spots in the poll despite lacking a marquee win. Not too bad

In respect to the Divison III poll, I believe your assessment is right on, especially if St. Thomas knocks Bethel off. However, if St. John Fisher beats Salisbury this weekend, they may not jump St. John Fisher. As for regional rankings when they come out officially, they may rise to number one, but that depends on the match-up between Salisbury and St. John Fisher this upcoming weekend and the winner winning out. If Salisbury wins, they have a case to be number one based on record. However, if St. John Fisher wins, I'll give the nod to St. John Fisher.

pumkinattack

Hobart's already drifted up more than they probably should given the SOS/opponents they've played.  My comments earlier were more internal to the East region discussion.  I felt like everyone talked about Sals/SJF/MAC/NJAC, etc. and Bart was sort of getting ignored.  I would even note that TMC just lost to Geneva College. 

At this point Hobart hasn't earned anything this season other than a 5-0 record.  I think they're really good and should be able to go a few rounds into the playoffs, but if they don't take care of business the rest of the way they'll get what they deserve.  They learned that the hard way last year. 

 

rams1102

My Poll is similar to LD except for Alfred.

1.   Salisbury
2.   Fisher
3.   Hobart
4.   Rowan
5.   Widner
6.   Cortland
7.   Lycoming
8.   Salve
9.   Ithaca
10. Alfred
It ain't over till it's over, and when you get to the fork in the road, take it.