East Region Fan Poll

[AUPepBand]

I have 2 cats.  They take HUGE dumps.  I work from home so the litter box is actually in my office and it can get brutally disgusting in here when it happens.  One of the cats actually likes to play mind games with me and knows whenever I am on a long and/or important call, he takes a dump the size of Gro (and worse smelling), kicks around the litter and goes back to nap time with a smirk on his evil face. 

Because of the proximity of my desk to the litter box, we use high quality high end litter which helps mask the smell a little and makes cleanup much less terrible, but it's pretty terrible overall.  I am mostly in charge of scooping the box, otherwise, everything I own would smell of cat doo doo. 

Oh, and Tufts vs. Amherst looks to be a wild one this weekend.

Pep can relate. We had a cat. Missy was fine. Then Mrs. Pep and Miss Pep Jr. thought they wanted another (even though both suffer from cat allergies). So they brought home a half-grown cat they named Sadie. Missy and Sadie had cat fights every morning that proved most entertaining to Pep, who always bet on Missy but realized that when Sadie grew into her larger frame, Missy would be hurtin'. That day came sooner than expected. Missy the Mouser, after taking several consecutive beatings, left one day and never came back. Sadie has ruled the house ever since.

When Mrs. Pep was out of the house for three years attending Houghton College, Pep was left with housekeeping chores. Kitty litter box was not a priority...until, of course, the odor was overwhelming. When it got real bad, Sadie would follow Pep around the house, begging Pep to clean the kitty litter box. Pep checked her food and water and said, "You've got food, you've got water, what MORE do you want?" Pep can feign ignorance when he doesn't want to do something. One night Pep went to bed and was startled to find that Sadie had made a withdrawal next to Pep's pillow. Pep changed the litter box the next day.

It will be a dog fight between the Ephs and Continentals on Saterday.

On Eph-ing Continentals!

[dlippiel]

Reason it snows?

Freezing temperatures.

Reason for darkness?

Earth's rotation.

Reason the NESCAC only plays within itself?

After our recent conversation dlip concludes that they refuse to play us non toilet poopers!

[Garnet]

Lew Dogg has cats so he can collect their turds to make the Frozen Cat Turd trophy.

bman, No Garnet on the list. Where is the love? 

[bman]

Lew Dogg has cats so he can collect their turds to make the Frozen Cat Turd trophy.

bman, No Garnet on the list. Where is the love?

All right +K... but c'mon  your active!  I was only citing great posters that have not been active in a while...

[lewdogg11]

East
http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

1. Hobart, 7-0, .559 (47th), defeated RPI.
2. Salisbury, 6-1, .600 (25th), defeated Alfred, St. John Fisher, lost to Wesley (No. 2 South).
3. Widener, 7-0, .423 (206th), defeated Lycoming.
4. Cortland State, 6-1, .472 (149th), defeated Rowan.
5. Rowan, 5-1, .568 (60th), lost to Rowan.
6. Salve Regina, 7-1, .530 (76th), no results vs. RRO.
7. RPI, 5-2, .532 (74th), defeated Alfred, lost to Hobart.
8. Alfred, 4-2, .580 (38th), defeated St. John Fisher, lost to RPI, Salisbury.
9. St. John Fisher, 4-2, .603 (21st), lost to Alfred, Salisbury.
10. Lycoming, 5-2, .574 (40th), lost to Widener.

The bubble: Kean, Delaware Valley.

Beyond the bubble: Framingham State, Mount Ida


Kind of an interesting Regional ranking, specifically Salve and RPI's rankings.  Salve lost to a mediocre MIT and RPI lost to a mediocre MMA.  RPI's Alfred victory obviously is holding a lot of weight.  To me, Alfred's wins should put them above RPI.  If RPI wins out, I guess they'd be a bubble tournament team.  Could be interesting...

[Yanks 99]

East
http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

1. Hobart, 7-0, .559 (47th), defeated RPI.
2. Salisbury, 6-1, .600 (25th), defeated Alfred, St. John Fisher, lost to Wesley (No. 2 South).
3. Widener, 7-0, .423 (206th), defeated Lycoming.
4. Cortland State, 6-1, .472 (149th), defeated Rowan.
5. Rowan, 5-1, .568 (60th), lost to Rowan.
6. Salve Regina, 7-1, .530 (76th), no results vs. RRO.
7. RPI, 5-2, .532 (74th), defeated Alfred, lost to Hobart.
8. Alfred, 4-2, .580 (38th), defeated St. John Fisher, lost to RPI, Salisbury.
9. St. John Fisher, 4-2, .603 (21st), lost to Alfred, Salisbury.
10. Lycoming, 5-2, .574 (40th), lost to Widener.

The bubble: Kean, Delaware Valley.

Beyond the bubble: Framingham State, Mount Ida


Kind of an interesting Regional ranking, specifically Salve and RPI's rankings.  Salve lost to a mediocre MIT and RPI lost to a mediocre MMA.  RPI's Alfred victory obviously is holding a lot of weight.  To me, Alfred's wins should put them above RPI.  If RPI wins out, I guess they'd be a bubble tournament team.  Could be interesting...

Salve being #6 on this list is ridiculous...

[pg04]

East
http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

1. Hobart, 7-0, .559 (47th), defeated RPI.
2. Salisbury, 6-1, .600 (25th), defeated Alfred, St. John Fisher, lost to Wesley (No. 2 South).
3. Widener, 7-0, .423 (206th), defeated Lycoming.
4. Cortland State, 6-1, .472 (149th), defeated Rowan.
5. Rowan, 5-1, .568 (60th), lost to Rowan.
6. Salve Regina, 7-1, .530 (76th), no results vs. RRO.
7. RPI, 5-2, .532 (74th), defeated Alfred, lost to Hobart.
8. Alfred, 4-2, .580 (38th), defeated St. John Fisher, lost to RPI, Salisbury.
9. St. John Fisher, 4-2, .603 (21st), lost to Alfred, Salisbury.
10. Lycoming, 5-2, .574 (40th), lost to Widener.

The bubble: Kean, Delaware Valley.

Beyond the bubble: Framingham State, Mount Ida


Kind of an interesting Regional ranking, specifically Salve and RPI's rankings.  Salve lost to a mediocre MIT and RPI lost to a mediocre MMA.  RPI's Alfred victory obviously is holding a lot of weight.  To me, Alfred's wins should put them above RPI.  If RPI wins out, I guess they'd be a bubble tournament team.  Could be interesting...

Salve being #6 on this list is ridiculous...

It's calculation based, so the fact that they only have one loss weighs HEAVILY on the ranking (Note that there are no 2 loss teams above them, and consequently the only one loss teams below them are Framingham State and Mount Ida, who I would assume have SOS much lower due to the selection of OOC games). That and the fact that their SOS is "better" than the average put them where they are.

[Frank Rossi]

East
http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

1. Hobart, 7-0, .559 (47th), defeated RPI.
2. Salisbury, 6-1, .600 (25th), defeated Alfred, St. John Fisher, lost to Wesley (No. 2 South).
3. Widener, 7-0, .423 (206th), defeated Lycoming.
4. Cortland State, 6-1, .472 (149th), defeated Rowan.
5. Rowan, 5-1, .568 (60th), lost to Rowan.
6. Salve Regina, 7-1, .530 (76th), no results vs. RRO.
7. RPI, 5-2, .532 (74th), defeated Alfred, lost to Hobart.
8. Alfred, 4-2, .580 (38th), defeated St. John Fisher, lost to RPI, Salisbury.
9. St. John Fisher, 4-2, .603 (21st), lost to Alfred, Salisbury.
10. Lycoming, 5-2, .574 (40th), lost to Widener.

The bubble: Kean, Delaware Valley.

Beyond the bubble: Framingham State, Mount Ida


Kind of an interesting Regional ranking, specifically Salve and RPI's rankings.  Salve lost to a mediocre MIT and RPI lost to a mediocre MMA.  RPI's Alfred victory obviously is holding a lot of weight.  To me, Alfred's wins should put them above RPI.  If RPI wins out, I guess they'd be a bubble tournament team.  Could be interesting...

It wouldn't be a real bubble scenario.  UWW is a two-loss team on the bubble.  The loser of Wesley/Huntingdon is going to be a two-loss bubble team.  Both teams have better subjective schedules and quality losses than Salve and RPI, and that assumes we even make it to two losses in the six Pool C bids.  All it shows is that the East's team for Pool C consideration will be a two-loss team (Salve would have to lose again to not be the NEFC Champ).  This changes if Widener loses to DelVal or if Hobart loses to Union, however.

[Pat Coleman]

East
http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

1. Hobart, 7-0, .559 (47th), defeated RPI.
2. Salisbury, 6-1, .600 (25th), defeated Alfred, St. John Fisher, lost to Wesley (No. 2 South).
3. Widener, 7-0, .423 (206th), defeated Lycoming.
4. Cortland State, 6-1, .472 (149th), defeated Rowan.
5. Rowan, 5-1, .568 (60th), lost to Rowan.
6. Salve Regina, 7-1, .530 (76th), no results vs. RRO.
7. RPI, 5-2, .532 (74th), defeated Alfred, lost to Hobart.
8. Alfred, 4-2, .580 (38th), defeated St. John Fisher, lost to RPI, Salisbury.
9. St. John Fisher, 4-2, .603 (21st), lost to Alfred, Salisbury.
10. Lycoming, 5-2, .574 (40th), lost to Widener.

The bubble: Kean, Delaware Valley.

Beyond the bubble: Framingham State, Mount Ida


Kind of an interesting Regional ranking, specifically Salve and RPI's rankings.  Salve lost to a mediocre MIT and RPI lost to a mediocre MMA.  RPI's Alfred victory obviously is holding a lot of weight.  To me, Alfred's wins should put them above RPI.  If RPI wins out, I guess they'd be a bubble tournament team.  Could be interesting...

As it should. They both have two losses and the SOS is not so far apart that we should overlook the head-to-head result.

I definitely toyed with RPI and Alfred ahead of Salve but I thought that at .530, the SOS was reasonable and they shouldn't be knocked for that.

[Yanks 99]

East
http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

1. Hobart, 7-0, .559 (47th), defeated RPI.
2. Salisbury, 6-1, .600 (25th), defeated Alfred, St. John Fisher, lost to Wesley (No. 2 South).
3. Widener, 7-0, .423 (206th), defeated Lycoming.
4. Cortland State, 6-1, .472 (149th), defeated Rowan.
5. Rowan, 5-1, .568 (60th), lost to Rowan.
6. Salve Regina, 7-1, .530 (76th), no results vs. RRO.
7. RPI, 5-2, .532 (74th), defeated Alfred, lost to Hobart.
8. Alfred, 4-2, .580 (38th), defeated St. John Fisher, lost to RPI, Salisbury.
9. St. John Fisher, 4-2, .603 (21st), lost to Alfred, Salisbury.
10. Lycoming, 5-2, .574 (40th), lost to Widener.

The bubble: Kean, Delaware Valley.

Beyond the bubble: Framingham State, Mount Ida


Kind of an interesting Regional ranking, specifically Salve and RPI's rankings.  Salve lost to a mediocre MIT and RPI lost to a mediocre MMA.  RPI's Alfred victory obviously is holding a lot of weight.  To me, Alfred's wins should put them above RPI.  If RPI wins out, I guess they'd be a bubble tournament team.  Could be interesting...

Salve being #6 on this list is ridiculous...

It's calculation based, so the fact that they only have one loss weighs HEAVILY on the ranking (Note that there are no 2 loss teams above them, and consequently the only one loss teams below them are Framingham State and Mount Ida, who I would assume have SOS much lower due to the selection of OOC games). That and the fact that their SOS is "better" than the average put them where they are.

I hear you...but I just look at Salve sitting at #6 on this list and all I can think of is that "you got beat by a team that needed a last second TD to beat Becker???". 

With geographical regions out window for the tournament...if the committee holds to the same form as last year...I hope they finally ship the NEFC champ out to MUC, UWW, or Wesley for a first round match up...listen to the coach from the NEFC complain about not getting a higher seed after navigating their way through the perilous Bogan or Boyd Division (like the WNEC coach did last year)...and then watch them get their doors blown off.  I know there are usually some geographical and mileage issues here most of the time...but just once, I would like to see this happen.

The only good news for the NEFC is that next year the Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference (MASCAC) comes on board and automatically becomes the worst league in the nation that gets an automatic bid.

[Pat Coleman]

East
http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

1. Hobart, 7-0, .559 (47th), defeated RPI.
2. Salisbury, 6-1, .600 (25th), defeated Alfred, St. John Fisher, lost to Wesley (No. 2 South).
3. Widener, 7-0, .423 (206th), defeated Lycoming.
4. Cortland State, 6-1, .472 (149th), defeated Rowan.
5. Rowan, 5-1, .568 (60th), lost to Rowan.
6. Salve Regina, 7-1, .530 (76th), no results vs. RRO.
7. RPI, 5-2, .532 (74th), defeated Alfred, lost to Hobart.
8. Alfred, 4-2, .580 (38th), defeated St. John Fisher, lost to RPI, Salisbury.
9. St. John Fisher, 4-2, .603 (21st), lost to Alfred, Salisbury.
10. Lycoming, 5-2, .574 (40th), lost to Widener.

The bubble: Kean, Delaware Valley.

Beyond the bubble: Framingham State, Mount Ida


Kind of an interesting Regional ranking, specifically Salve and RPI's rankings.  Salve lost to a mediocre MIT and RPI lost to a mediocre MMA.  RPI's Alfred victory obviously is holding a lot of weight.  To me, Alfred's wins should put them above RPI.  If RPI wins out, I guess they'd be a bubble tournament team.  Could be interesting...

Salve being #6 on this list is ridiculous...

It's calculation based, so the fact that they only have one loss weighs HEAVILY on the ranking (Note that there are no 2 loss teams above them, and consequently the only one loss teams below them are Framingham State and Mount Ida, who I would assume have SOS much lower due to the selection of OOC games). That and the fact that their SOS is "better" than the average put them where they are.

I hear you...but I just look at Salve sitting at #6 on this list and all I can think of is that "you got beat by a team that needed a last second TD to beat Becker???". 

With geographical regions out window for the tournament...if the committee holds to the same form as last year...I hope they finally ship the NEFC champ out to MUC, UWW, or Wesley for a first round match up...listen to the coach from the NEFC complain about not getting a higher seed after navigating their way through the perilous Bogan or Boyd Division (like the WNEC coach did last year)...and then watch them get their doors blown off.  I know there are usually some geographical and mileage issues here most of the time...but just once, I would like to see this happen.

The only good news for the NEFC is that next year the Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference (MASCAC) comes on board and automatically becomes the worst league in the nation that gets an automatic bid.

The MASCAC will need two wait two years for that privilege. If they had seven of their own schools sponsoring football, they could get an AQ immediately, but since they need to borrow Little East schools as affiliate members to make it happen, they have to wait until 2015.

[lewdogg11]

East
http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

1. Hobart, 7-0, .559 (47th), defeated RPI.
2. Salisbury, 6-1, .600 (25th), defeated Alfred, St. John Fisher, lost to Wesley (No. 2 South).
3. Widener, 7-0, .423 (206th), defeated Lycoming.
4. Cortland State, 6-1, .472 (149th), defeated Rowan.
5. Rowan, 5-1, .568 (60th), lost to Rowan.
6. Salve Regina, 7-1, .530 (76th), no results vs. RRO.
7. RPI, 5-2, .532 (74th), defeated Alfred, lost to Hobart.
8. Alfred, 4-2, .580 (38th), defeated St. John Fisher, lost to RPI, Salisbury.
9. St. John Fisher, 4-2, .603 (21st), lost to Alfred, Salisbury.
10. Lycoming, 5-2, .574 (40th), lost to Widener.

The bubble: Kean, Delaware Valley.

Beyond the bubble: Framingham State, Mount Ida


Kind of an interesting Regional ranking, specifically Salve and RPI's rankings.  Salve lost to a mediocre MIT and RPI lost to a mediocre MMA.  RPI's Alfred victory obviously is holding a lot of weight.  To me, Alfred's wins should put them above RPI.  If RPI wins out, I guess they'd be a bubble tournament team.  Could be interesting...

Salve being #6 on this list is ridiculous...

It's calculation based, so the fact that they only have one loss weighs HEAVILY on the ranking (Note that there are no 2 loss teams above them, and consequently the only one loss teams below them are Framingham State and Mount Ida, who I would assume have SOS much lower due to the selection of OOC games). That and the fact that their SOS is "better" than the average put them where they are.

I hear you...but I just look at Salve sitting at #6 on this list and all I can think of is that "you got beat by a team that needed a last second TD to beat Becker???". 

With geographical regions out window for the tournament...if the committee holds to the same form as last year...I hope they finally ship the NEFC champ out to MUC, UWW, or Wesley for a first round match up...listen to the coach from the NEFC complain about not getting a higher seed after navigating their way through the perilous Bogan or Boyd Division (like the WNEC coach did last year)...and then watch them get their doors blown off.  I know there are usually some geographical and mileage issues here most of the time...but just once, I would like to see this happen.

The only good news for the NEFC is that next year the Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference (MASCAC) comes on board and automatically becomes the worst league in the nation that gets an automatic bid.

After all is said and done, sending the NEFC out to Mount Union is kind of pointless.  WNEC went to Salisbury last year and lost 62-24.  Norwich went to Delaware Valley and lost 62-10.  I don't think it really matters much where these teams get sent. 

With a loss, they aren't likely to get a great seed and Mount probably wouldn't run the score any higher than any of these other teams.  Mount Union tends to have a point ceiling that they stay within.  It just sucks that 2 spots get taken by the NEFC and ECFC and another will be taken soon when the NEFC splits.  It really kills the East's strength. 

Last year, the East showed it can compete across the country.  What might have happened if 2 more teams got the nod over WNEC and Norwich?  Other than likely playing another east team, they might have gotten a different draw and the East could have saturated the brackets.

[Yanks 99]

East
http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/index

1. Hobart, 7-0, .559 (47th), defeated RPI.
2. Salisbury, 6-1, .600 (25th), defeated Alfred, St. John Fisher, lost to Wesley (No. 2 South).
3. Widener, 7-0, .423 (206th), defeated Lycoming.
4. Cortland State, 6-1, .472 (149th), defeated Rowan.
5. Rowan, 5-1, .568 (60th), lost to Rowan.
6. Salve Regina, 7-1, .530 (76th), no results vs. RRO.
7. RPI, 5-2, .532 (74th), defeated Alfred, lost to Hobart.
8. Alfred, 4-2, .580 (38th), defeated St. John Fisher, lost to RPI, Salisbury.
9. St. John Fisher, 4-2, .603 (21st), lost to Alfred, Salisbury.
10. Lycoming, 5-2, .574 (40th), lost to Widener.

The bubble: Kean, Delaware Valley.

Beyond the bubble: Framingham State, Mount Ida


Kind of an interesting Regional ranking, specifically Salve and RPI's rankings.  Salve lost to a mediocre MIT and RPI lost to a mediocre MMA.  RPI's Alfred victory obviously is holding a lot of weight.  To me, Alfred's wins should put them above RPI.  If RPI wins out, I guess they'd be a bubble tournament team.  Could be interesting...

Salve being #6 on this list is ridiculous...

It's calculation based, so the fact that they only have one loss weighs HEAVILY on the ranking (Note that there are no 2 loss teams above them, and consequently the only one loss teams below them are Framingham State and Mount Ida, who I would assume have SOS much lower due to the selection of OOC games). That and the fact that their SOS is "better" than the average put them where they are.

I hear you...but I just look at Salve sitting at #6 on this list and all I can think of is that "you got beat by a team that needed a last second TD to beat Becker???". 

With geographical regions out window for the tournament...if the committee holds to the same form as last year...I hope they finally ship the NEFC champ out to MUC, UWW, or Wesley for a first round match up...listen to the coach from the NEFC complain about not getting a higher seed after navigating their way through the perilous Bogan or Boyd Division (like the WNEC coach did last year)...and then watch them get their doors blown off.  I know there are usually some geographical and mileage issues here most of the time...but just once, I would like to see this happen.

The only good news for the NEFC is that next year the Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference (MASCAC) comes on board and automatically becomes the worst league in the nation that gets an automatic bid.

After all is said and done, sending the NEFC out to Mount Union is kind of pointless.  WNEC went to Salisbury last year and lost 62-24.  Norwich went to Delaware Valley and lost 62-10.  I don't think it really matters much where these teams get sent. 

With a loss, they aren't likely to get a great seed and Mount probably wouldn't run the score any higher than any of these other teams.  Mount Union tends to have a point ceiling that they stay within.  It just sucks that 2 spots get taken by the NEFC and ECFC and another will be taken soon when the NEFC splits.  It really kills the East's strength. 

Last year, the East showed it can compete across the country.  What might have happened if 2 more teams got the nod over WNEC and Norwich?  Other than likely playing another east team, they might have gotten a different draw and the East could have saturated the brackets.

Damn you Pat and LewDogg with all of your stupid facts and logic...you are ruining my mini rant here!!!

[Frank Rossi]

WNEC is more than 500 miles from Mount Union, as are most, if not all other NEFC teams.  SUNY-Maritime I believe is in the 500 range and is one of the very few (if not only) schools from the New England conferences that could drive to Mount Union.  Otherwise, a flight would be involved.

[AUKaz00]

Fisher is actually 5-2.  Does that and their better SoS jockey them above Alfred who has the H2H?