East Region Fan Poll

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Frank Rossi

Quote from: dlip on November 05, 2012, 04:23:29 PM
Looking at everything and trying to be as objective as possible, Bridgewater has no buisness getting in. The win over Springfield early, although impressive in regards to history, really isn't impressive considering the Pride didn't find any identity until recently. Jason Marrero has grown ten fold. Kid can throw and is shifty as ****. Defense is still not good but if those two teams play again Springfield runs all over them big time. On top of this dlip does not feel they could do anything against Rowan or any other 2 loss team from another conference (aside from any in the ECFC).

One note:  Austin Bateman I believe started in the Bridgewater St. game, if memory serves.  Marrero is either the 3rd or 4th QB for Springfield this season due to injuries.

dlippiel

dlip thinsk he is #3 but has continued to play and rightfully so (not sure about the status of Batemen and their original #2 right now.) We have seen how this Springfield merry go round goes. Every couole classes  they find a signal caller who can really take charge and they run with him, literally. Usually it tends to be a Junior who has learned Delong's system from an upperclassmen. This season, as a result of injuries, the Pride seems to have found that guy for the future...as a Freshman. Anyway, to dlip, Bridgewater could not keep up with the Pride's improved O as a result of Marrero's growth within the system.

Yanks 99

OK...f'ing seriously...

East

1 Hobart 9-0 9-0
2 Widener 8-0 8-0
3 Cortland State 7-1 7-1
4 Salisbury 6-2 7-2
5 Rowan 6-1 6-2
6 Salve Regina 9-1 9-1
7 Lycoming 7-2 7-2
8 Framingham St. 9-1 9-1
9 Bridgewater St. 9-1 9-1
10 Endicott 8-2 8-2


Four teams from the NEFC ranked in the East Region Top 10 in the latest NCCA Regional rankings?  This is flat out embarrassing...
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SUADC

Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 07, 2012, 04:09:22 PM
OK...f'ing seriously...

East

1 Hobart 9-0 9-0
2 Widener 8-0 8-0
3 Cortland State 7-1 7-1
4 Salisbury 6-2 7-2
5 Rowan 6-1 6-2
6 Salve Regina 9-1 9-1
7 Lycoming 7-2 7-2
8 Framingham St. 9-1 9-1
9 Bridgewater St. 9-1 9-1
10 Endicott 8-2 8-2


Four teams from the NEFC ranked in the East Region Top 10 in the latest NCCA Regional rankings?  This is flat out embarrassing...

I guess you can't separate those 3 teams at the bottom. Endicott beat to Framingham St. 34-7, Loss to Bridgewater 20-16, and Framington State beat Bridgewater 16-0. But, yeah.

ExTartanPlayer

Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 07, 2012, 04:09:22 PM
OK...f'ing seriously...

East

1 Hobart 9-0 9-0
2 Widener 8-0 8-0
3 Cortland State 7-1 7-1
4 Salisbury 6-2 7-2
5 Rowan 6-1 6-2
6 Salve Regina 9-1 9-1
7 Lycoming 7-2 7-2
8 Framingham St. 9-1 9-1
9 Bridgewater St. 9-1 9-1
10 Endicott 8-2 8-2


Four teams from the NEFC ranked in the East Region Top 10 in the latest NCCA Regional rankings?  This is flat out embarrassing...

Wondered how long it would take for someone to point this out...
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dlippiel

Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 07, 2012, 04:09:22 PM
OK...f'ing seriously...

East

1 Hobart 9-0 9-0
2 Widener 8-0 8-0
3 Cortland State 7-1 7-1
4 Salisbury 6-2 7-2
5 Rowan 6-1 6-2
6 Salve Regina 9-1 9-1
7 Lycoming 7-2 7-2
8 Framingham St. 9-1 9-1
9 Bridgewater St. 9-1 9-1
10 Endicott 8-2 8-2


Four teams from the NEFC ranked in the East Region Top 10 in the latest NCCA Regional rankings?  This is flat out embarrassing...

That is pure fuciking horsepenis if you ask dlip. At some point something needs to be done. Is there anyone out there that can communicate to whomever comes up with these rankings (and dlip means the "actual" people not the "acme" people from ****ing Looney Toones) and have an educated discussion on how inaccurate these rankings are year in and ****ing year out?

wesleydad

Quote from: Yanks 99 on November 07, 2012, 04:09:22 PM
OK...f'ing seriously...

East

1 Hobart 9-0 9-0
2 Widener 8-0 8-0
3 Cortland State 7-1 7-1
4 Salisbury 6-2 7-2
5 Rowan 6-1 6-2
6 Salve Regina 9-1 9-1
7 Lycoming 7-2 7-2
8 Framingham St. 9-1 9-1
9 Bridgewater St. 9-1 9-1
10 Endicott 8-2 8-2


Four teams from the NEFC ranked in the East Region Top 10 in the latest NCCA Regional rankings?  This is flat out embarrassing...

with those teams listed at the bottom of the east, it sures makes the east look really weak compared to the other regions.  shame because del val would likely light all 4 of them up.

Upstate

Del Val is the only team I can think of that is being omitted, other than that I can't really make a case for any other team. The E8 and LL are a complete mess outside of Bart and SU. Other than Cortland and Rowan the rest of the NJAC is also a mess.

It's just a really, really bad year for the east. Injuries and poor play are killing the teams that are normally strong and inexperience is killing teams that are looking to take the next step for their programs.
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pg04

Unfortunately this is completely what I expected by the numbers.

Bombers798891

Quote from: Upstate on November 07, 2012, 05:08:43 PM
Del Val is the only team I can think of that is being omitted, other than that I can't really make a case for any other team. The E8 and LL are a complete mess outside of Bart and SU. Other than Cortland and Rowan the rest of the NJAC is also a mess.

It's just a really, really bad year for the east. Injuries and poor play are killing the teams that are normally strong and inexperience is killing teams that are looking to take the next step for their programs.

I agree. I only really follow the E8 closely, but it is way down as a conference.

dlippiel

Honestly dlip knows that looking at the numbers involved, records, etc Del Val is seemingly the only one here getting shafted to an extent and this makes some semblance of sense BUT dlip just looks at regional rankings as if they should represent the BEST teams in the region. This list, at least #'s 6,8,9,10 do not represent the best teams in the east region, at least in dlip's opinion.

Upstate

Quote from: dlip on November 07, 2012, 06:47:03 PM
Honestly dlip knows that looking at the numbers involved, records, etc Del Val is seemingly the only one here getting shafted to an extent and this makes some semblance of sense BUT dlip just looks at regional rankings as if they should represent the BEST teams in the region. This list, at least #'s 6,8,9,10 do not represent the best teams in the east region, at least in dlip's opinion.

Would the 2nd, 3rd and 4th place E8 teams beat those teams you mentioned?

I'd put money on it.

However those teams in the E8 aren't having the seasons they usually have had in the past and have been knocking each other off week in and week out. Going by results you can't really justify putting any of the E8 teams in there besides SU.
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rams1102

Quote from: dlip on November 05, 2012, 04:23:29 PM
Looking at everything and trying to be as objective as possible, Bridgewater has no buisness getting in. The win over Springfield early, although impressive in regards to history, really isn't impressive considering the Pride didn't find any identity until recently. Jason Marrero has grown ten fold. Kid can throw and is shifty as ****. Defense is still not good but if those two teams play again Springfield runs all over them big time. On top of this dlip does not feel they could do anything against Rowan or any other 2 loss team from another conference (aside from any in the ECFC).

I agree with you. What about Salve and Framingham? Have you noticed the feelings of the NCAA Regional Rankings. Looks like the NJAC may only get one bid. Thoughts?
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Upstate

Quote from: rams1102 on November 07, 2012, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: dlip on November 05, 2012, 04:23:29 PM
Looking at everything and trying to be as objective as possible, Bridgewater has no buisness getting in. The win over Springfield early, although impressive in regards to history, really isn't impressive considering the Pride didn't find any identity until recently. Jason Marrero has grown ten fold. Kid can throw and is shifty as ****. Defense is still not good but if those two teams play again Springfield runs all over them big time. On top of this dlip does not feel they could do anything against Rowan or any other 2 loss team from another conference (aside from any in the ECFC).

I agree with you. What about Salve and Framingham? Have you noticed the feelings of the NCAA Regional Rankings. Looks like the NJAC may only get one bid. Thoughts?

I think Rowan has a great shot at a pool C...

Other than Del Valley who deserves to be ranked to replace those teams???

Other than SU and Hobar every other E8 and LL team has at least 3 losses...

In the NJAC you have Cortland and Rowan then everyone else with at least 3 losses...

In the MAC Widener and Lyco are represented already then you have DVC at 7-2 and the rest of the conference has 3 or more losses...

It's slim pickings in the east this year, just have to accept it and watch the NEFC get blown out in two first round playoff games this year instead of one...


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AUPepBand

Quote from: dlip on November 05, 2012, 04:23:29 PM
Looking at everything and trying to be as objective as possible, Bridgewater has no buisness getting in. The win over Springfield early, although impressive in regards to history, really isn't impressive considering the Pride didn't find any identity until recently. Jason Marrero has grown ten fold. Kid can throw and is shifty as ****. Defense is still not good but if those two teams play again Springfield runs all over them big time. On top of this dlip does not feel they could do anything against Rowan or any other 2 loss team from another conference (aside from any in the ECFC).

Pep agrees. Bridgewater, essentially, finishes as their league's third best team, since Salve Regina and Framingham are playing for the title (and AQ). Loser of that game will be 9-2, but still finished "ahead" of Bridgewater, at 9-1.

Pep is thinking the MAC may get two teams in. Should Delaware Valley upset Widener Saterday, and assuming Lycoming takes care of business, the MAC would offer Widener (9-1), Lyco (8-2) and Del Valley (8-2) and, ignorant of the MAC tiebreaker, one gets an AQ and one of the others gets a Pool C, ahead of a 9-1 Bridgewater or a 9-2 Salve Regina/Framingham State.

And, with Cortland taking the NJAC AQ, Rowan, with a win over TCNJ, finishes 7-1 against D3 opponents and should also get a Pool C.

Pep's Picks for East Region teams making NCAAs, assuming eight teams are selected from each of the four regions:

Hobart (10-0) [LL AQ]
Cortland (8-1) [NJAC AQ]
Salisbury (8-2) [E8 AQ]
Widener (10-0) [MAC AQ] (unless Del Valley wins, then AQ determined by tiebreaker)
Castleton State (8-2) or Mt. Ida (8-2) [ECFC AQ]
Framingham State (10-1) or Salve Regina (10-1) [NEFC AQ]
Rowan (7-1) [Pool C]
Lycoming (8-2) OR, Delaware Valley (8-2) if the Aggies beat Widener [Pool C]

That's Pep's story and he's sticking to it.  ;)

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