East Region Fan Poll

[AUKaz00]

Week 11 Fan Poll 

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Hobart( 5 )	9-0	50	1	vs. Gallaudet
2   St. John Fisher	8-2	44	5	at #2 (North) John Carroll
3   Ithaca	8-2	38	2	vs. Framingham State
4   Rowan	8-2	35	6	vs. Endicott
5   Lebanon Valley	8-2	27	3	at #4 (North) Wittenberg
6   Salisbury	6-4	19	7	at Muhlenberg
7   Alfred	7-3	18	4	vs. Cortland State
8   Delaware Valley	7-3	14	9t	vs. Franklin & Marshall
9   Lycoming	7-3	12	9t	End of Season
10  Brockport State	7-3	8	NR	vs. Waynesburg

Dropped Out:
Widener


Also Receiving votes:               
Widener 3
Albright 2
St. Lawrence 2
Framingham State 1
Cortland State 1

            
Voting Distribution:         

Hobart (1,1,1,1,1)
St. John Fisher (2,2,2,2,3)
Ithaca (4,3,4,4,2)
Rowan (3,5,5,3,4)
Lebanon Valley (7,4,6,6,5)
Salisbury (NR,6,3,9,7)
Alfred (6,8,9,8,6)
Delaware Valley (5,9,NR,5,NR)
Lycoming (8,7,NR,7,10)
Brockport State (9,NR,7,NR,8)
Widener (NR,NR,8,NR,NR)
Albright (NR,10,NR,10,NR)
Framingham State (9,NR,NR,NR,NR)
St. Lawrence (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Cortland State (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
#2 St. John Fisher at #2 (North) John Carroll
#5 Lebanon Valley at #4 (North) Wittenberg

[Bombers798891]

Week 11 Fan Poll        

Ithaca (4, 3,4,4,2)
Salisbury (NR,6,3,9,7)

Ithaca behind Salisbury? What Salisbury alum made that vote? Ithaca won the E8 and beat Salisbury on the road while missing their best defensive player. The Gulls have two wins Ithaca doesn't: Over the Wick and a 2-8 NC Wesleyan, neither of which is as impressive as Ithaca's win over Alfred.

[dlippiel]

Week 11 Fan Poll        

Ithaca (4, 3,4,4,2)
Salisbury (NR,6,3,9,7)

Ithaca behind Salisbury? What Salisbury alum made that vote? Ithaca won the E8 and beat Salisbury on the road while missing their best defensive player. The Gulls have two wins Ithaca doesn't: Over the Wick and a 2-8 NC Wesleyan, neither of which is as impressive as Ithaca's win over Alfred.

Went with a feeling here. dlip origionally had them flipped for the aforementioned reasons. dlip is always a huge Bomber fan however he felt (could be wrong here and probably is) that IC deserved IDHO to be punished for the loss to Cortland. Rivalry game dlip knows and that is his point. Union losing to RPI in 2006 deflated the Dutchmen and proved to end their season even though they actually played one more game (and didn't show up to play SJF). dlip thinks this is a similar caase here and felt if IC deserved to be in the top 3 they needed to beat Cortland. dlip has NO issue with the questioning of this move. Very rarely does dlip go on a gut feeling. Here he did.

[ITH radio]

Yeah, although Frank and I disagreed (shocker  ) he picked Fram State to beat IC this weekend in Rd 1.  After all the distractions post-Cortaca, I am coming around to seeing that as a possibility.  The Rams acquitted themselves in Rd 1 last season.  They know what they need to do Saterday.

[Bombers798891]

Week 11 Fan Poll        

Ithaca (4, 3,4,4,2)
Salisbury (NR,6,3,9,7)

Ithaca behind Salisbury? What Salisbury alum made that vote? Ithaca won the E8 and beat Salisbury on the road while missing their best defensive player. The Gulls have two wins Ithaca doesn't: Over the Wick and a 2-8 NC Wesleyan, neither of which is as impressive as Ithaca's win over Alfred.

Went with a feeling here. dlip origionally had them flipped for the aforementioned reasons. dlip is always a huge Bomber fan however he felt (could be wrong here and probably is) that IC deserved IDHO to be punished for the loss to Cortland. Rivalry game dlip knows and that is his point. Union losing to RPI in 2006 deflated the Dutchmen and proved to end their season even though they actually played one more game (and didn't show up to play SJF). dlip thinks this is a similar caase here and felt if IC deserved to be in the top 3 they needed to beat Cortland. dlip has NO issue with the questioning of this move. Very rarely does dlip go on a gut feeling. Here he did.

I guess my issue was more with a 4-loss Salisbury team being ranked third as opposed to dinging Ithaca for a bad loss

[Bombers798891]

Yeah, although Frank and I disagreed (shocker  ) he picked Fram State to beat IC this weekend in Rd 1.  After all the distractions post-Cortaca, I am coming around to seeing that as a possibility.  The Rams acquitted themselves in Rd 1 last season.  They know what they need to do Saterday.

I've seen Ithaca have a post-Cortland hangover in 2005, and I've seen them respond to a gut-wrenching Cortaca loss by playing some of their best football in 2003.

For me, I just think the Cortaca loss, for all the yakking about rivalry games and what have you, was about one thing: John Babin is bigger and faster than Ithaca's corners who were beaten by him for big plays all day. Ithaca didn't play that badly, in fact, other than the whole Babin thing, I thought they played great.

[Jonny Utah]

Yeah, although Frank and I disagreed (shocker  ) he picked Fram State to beat IC this weekend in Rd 1.  After all the distractions post-Cortaca, I am coming around to seeing that as a possibility.  The Rams acquitted themselves in Rd 1 last season.  They know what they need to do Saterday.

I think if anything the Cortland loss helps them for this game.  Often times a loss makes you focus more on the next game. 

[Bombers798891]

Yeah, although Frank and I disagreed (shocker  ) he picked Fram State to beat IC this weekend in Rd 1.  After all the distractions post-Cortaca, I am coming around to seeing that as a possibility.  The Rams acquitted themselves in Rd 1 last season.  They know what they need to do Saterday.

I think if anything the Cortland loss helps them for this game.  Often times a loss makes you focus more on the next game.

One of IC's players said something similar to me the other day. Now, instead of going into the game with six straight wins and thinking you can't lose (especially dangerous for this IC team considering the closeness of many of the games), you come in a bit humbled.

I don't think the whole Cortaca thing will be a distraction though. For one, apparently, IC announced it's not considering a ban:

http://theithacan.org/35331

Two, almost all the drama was attached to Cortland, not Ithaca

[dlippiel]

Yeah, although Frank and I disagreed (shocker  ) he picked Fram State to beat IC this weekend in Rd 1.  After all the distractions post-Cortaca, I am coming around to seeing that as a possibility.  The Rams acquitted themselves in Rd 1 last season.  They know what they need to do Saterday.

I think if anything the Cortland loss helps them for this game.  Often times a loss makes you focus more on the next game.

One of IC's players said something similar to me the other day. Now, instead of going into the game with six straight wins and thinking you can't lose (especially dangerous for this IC team considering the closeness of many of the games), you come in a bit humbled.

I don't think the whole Cortaca thing will be a distraction though. For one, apparently, IC announced it's not considering a ban:

http://theithacan.org/35331

Two, almost all the drama was attached to Cortland, not Ithaca

We shall see. dlip is certainly hoping they take care of buisness. However no matter how one sees it and/or downplays losing to their number #1 rival, it sucks and very rarely bodes well for players confidence.

[AUPepBand]

Week 11 Fan Poll        

Ithaca (4, 3,4,4,2)
Salisbury (NR,6,3,9,7)

Ithaca behind Salisbury? What Salisbury alum made that vote? Ithaca won the E8 and beat Salisbury on the road while missing their best defensive player. The Gulls have two wins Ithaca doesn't: Over the Wick and a 2-8 NC Wesleyan, neither of which is as impressive as Ithaca's win over Alfred.

Went with a feeling here. dlip origionally had them flipped for the aforementioned reasons. dlip is always a huge Bomber fan however he felt (could be wrong here and probably is) that IC deserved IDHO to be punished for the loss to Cortland. Rivalry game dlip knows and that is his point. Union losing to RPI in 2006 deflated the Dutchmen and proved to end their season even though they actually played one more game (and didn't show up to play SJF). dlip thinks this is a similar caase here and felt if IC deserved to be in the top 3 they needed to beat Cortland. dlip has NO issue with the questioning of this move. Very rarely does dlip go on a gut feeling. Here he did.

Pep is wondering if there is a team of which dlip is NOT a huge fan? 

On Saxon Warriors!

[AUKaz00]

Week 11 Fan Poll        

Ithaca (4, 3,4,4,2)
Salisbury (NR,6,3,9,7)

Ithaca behind Salisbury? What Salisbury alum made that vote? Ithaca won the E8 and beat Salisbury on the road while missing their best defensive player. The Gulls have two wins Ithaca doesn't: Over the Wick and a 2-8 NC Wesleyan, neither of which is as impressive as Ithaca's win over Alfred.

Went with a feeling here. dlip origionally had them flipped for the aforementioned reasons. dlip is always a huge Bomber fan however he felt (could be wrong here and probably is) that IC deserved IDHO to be punished for the loss to Cortland. Rivalry game dlip knows and that is his point. Union losing to RPI in 2006 deflated the Dutchmen and proved to end their season even though they actually played one more game (and didn't show up to play SJF). dlip thinks this is a similar caase here and felt if IC deserved to be in the top 3 they needed to beat Cortland. dlip has NO issue with the questioning of this move. Very rarely does dlip go on a gut feeling. Here he did.

I guess my issue was more with a 4-loss Salisbury team being ranked third as opposed to dinging Ithaca for a bad loss

I often feel that we could pick apart certain rankings and I am more of the gut/eye-test type voter and will often rank a losing team higher than their victor (ie Fisher & Ithaca this year) based on which team I thought looked stronger not just on the end result.  The great thing about the ERFP is that the 5 of us tend to balance each other out.  Really can't argue with the aggregate rankings for week 11, no?

[D3viewer]

If #9 Lycoming (7-3) and #10 Brockport (7-3) were tied for an imaginary conf title.. The   "MJAC", Brockport would get the automatic bid based on it's head to head victory.  With the = 7-3 records..who else they played/beat would be irrelevant.

[D3MAFAN]

Good week by the East Region as a whole.

[AUKaz00]

I'm back!  This summer has been a bit too busy, so I'm only getting around to much of what I normally do during the summer (including Post Patterns).
Anyway, I'm game for running this again and will reach out to the pollsters from the past few years to gauge interest.  Post here if you're interested in taking over any spots that become available and let's aim for having the first set of regional rankings ready by September 5th.

[rams1102]

I'm back!  This summer has been a bit too busy, so I'm only getting around to much of what I normally do during the summer (including Post Patterns).
Anyway, I'm game for running this again and will reach out to the pollsters from the past few years to gauge interest.  Post here if you're interested in taking over any spots that become available and let's aim for having the first set of regional rankings ready by September 5th.

Count me in for the 2014 Season - Dave !!!