East Region Fan Poll

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fisheralum91

If Tom Brady goes down the Pats dont win a single..........whoops.
This is the most inane topic.

Fisher won....

Courage bowl skuttlebut?
Any word on Fusco?

Upstate

Quote from: fisheralum91 on September 23, 2016, 08:33:47 AM
If Tom Brady goes down the Pats dont win a single..........whoops.
This is the most inane topic.

Fisher won....

Courage bowl skuttlebut?
Any word on Fusco?

I'm kinda hesitant to overlook Brockport, that QB is playing well and Andrews is a STUD.

Fusco is listed as the starter in the two deep for this week.
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fisheralum91

Andrews is going to be a headache for sure.
We keep him in check and avoid the deep ball- Fisher wins this one

boobyhasgameyo

Quote from: boobyhasgameyo on September 21, 2016, 11:41:04 AM
I just can't ignore how badly Heidelberg smashed ONU.  The same Heidelberg that Cortland beat. 

Combine that with Utica barely escaping against M-State (who the jury is still out on) and I just have a sneaking suspicion that Cortland will win this one by about 17.

I was just playing around.  Down goes Cortland.

ITH radio

DelVal losing to Albright was a surprise. Fisher is in big trouble too. Hobart doesn't really deserve to, but will probably crack the Top 20 after today.
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Bartman

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Well, this looks like a Region where there are quite a few very good teams but no great teams...but we will see how they mature over the season. Right now I see Salisbury as the #1 by a nose hair, with a bunch of E8, LL, MAC and NJAC undefeated teams as a collective #2 and with conference play upon us the rest of the season will not really help to discern the relative strength of the top conferences( other than rolling up big scores to impress). I do have an eye out  for Wesley and Delaware Valley to see how they rebound the rest of the way. Cortland showed the effect of losing Ferreira in the Fisher game with yesterday's loss  against Utica(need to see more from this team before jumping on the bandwagon) yesterday , so they have fallen from early expectations similar to Hobart's fall last year when Sweeney went out. Except for SLU ,  I am not seeing any shutdown defenses. Looks like a "on any given Saturday" region.
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Quote from: ITH radio on September 24, 2016, 05:33:49 PM
DelVal losing to Albright was a surprise. Fisher is in big trouble too. Hobart doesn't really deserve to, but will probably crack the Top 20 after today.

I disagree, I think Hobart is a solid team and deserves Top 25 consideration. Although they are not putting up godly offensive numbers, have shown the capability and potential to do so. I believe the East may not have that super team to move into the Top 5-8, but can compete and win against any other team from any other conference and that includes this Hobart team. I think this past weekend really was a trap weekend with the big markee games last week. I think the East will continue to improve...

UfanBill

Nice win by Utica over Cortland. No excuse for the Pioneers not to get votes in this weeks ERFP... On a side note: something you don't see often, 2 brothers, Utica's starting QB Teddy VanGalen and Cortland's backup QB Ryan VanGalen (Shenendehowa, Clifton Park, NY) both saw game action. 
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Bartman

Quote from: UfanBill on September 25, 2016, 12:37:46 PM
Nice win by Utica over Cortland. No excuse for the Pioneers not to get votes in this weeks ERFP... On a side note: something you don't see often, 2 brothers, Utica's starting QB Teddy VanGalen and Cortland's backup QB Ryan VanGalen (Shenendehowa, Clifton Park, NY) both saw game action.
The Pioneers are on the radar screen now, for sure. Although I think losing Ferreria hurt Cortland, it still was a very strong win and puts Utica in the hunt to prove it on the field and not worry about any polls or perception that teams like Fisher are the favorites...heck ,Fisher barely made it out alive from the Brockport game(another strong E8 team despite 2 close loses.). A solid football and very entertaining conference....
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AUKaz00

Week 4 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Salisbury ( 4 )3-0492vs. TCNJ
2   St. John Fisher ( 1 )4-0443vs. Buffalo State
3   Stevenson4-0345at Miscercordia
4   Christopher Newport4-0316tat Rowan
5   St. Lawrence4-0294vs. Springfield
6   Hobart4-0236tvs. Merchant Marine
7   Alfred4-02210at Morrisville State
8   Utica4-014NRat Ithaca
9   Delaware Valley3-1111at Lebanon Valley
10  Western New England4-08NRat Nichols


Dropping Out:
Cortland State
Rowan

Also Receiving votes:               
Albright 6
Wesley 3
Cortland State 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Salisbury (1,1,1,2,1)
St. John Fisher (4,2,2,1,2)
Stevenson (3,7,3,4,4)
Christopher Newport (2,8,4,7,3)
St. Lawrence (6,3,5,3,9)
Hobart (5,4,6,6,NR)
Alfred (7,5,8,8,5)
Utica (10,6,9,9,7)
Delaware Valley (NR,9<NR,5,8)
Western New England (8,NR,7,NR,10)
Albright (NR,NR,10,NR,6)
Wesley (9,10,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,10,NR)
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Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 26, 2016, 10:31:53 AM
Week 4 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Salisbury ( 4 )3-0492vs. TCNJ
2   St. John Fisher ( 1 )4-0443vs. Buffalo State
3   Stevenson4-0345at Miscercordia
4   Christopher Newport4-0316tat Rowan
5   St. Lawrence4-0294vs. Springfield
6   Hobart4-0236tvs. Merchant Marine
7   Alfred4-02210at Morrisville State
8   Utica4-014NRat Ithaca
9   Delaware Valley3-1111at Lebanon Valley
10  Western New England4-08NRat Nichols


Dropping Out:
Cortland State
Rowan

Also Receiving votes:               
Albright 6
Wesley 3
Cortland State 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Salisbury (1,1,1,2,1)
St. John Fisher (4,2,2,1,2)
Stevenson (3,7,3,4,4)
Christopher Newport (2,8,4,7,3)
St. Lawrence (6,3,5,3,9)
Hobart (5,4,6,6,NR)
Alfred (7,5,8,8,5)
Utica (10,6,9,9,7)
Delaware Valley (NR,9<NR,5,8)
Western New England (8,NR,7,NR,10)
Albright (NR,NR,10,NR,6)
Wesley (9,10,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,10,NR)

I am fine with this, except I believe someone still kept Albright below Delaware Valley, discounting Saturday's head-to-head result. Good to see WNEC get to the Top 10. I think as the season continue. I struggled this week filling out, because I went with on the field results vs. expectations. I do believe that both Delaware Valley and Wesley could beat any team on this list, but with two losses and loss to a two loss team at home, couldn't do it. I voted for Salisbury at #1, but that may change, they struggled early against Southern Virginia and had some turnovers, so that may change next week.

wesleydad

Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on September 26, 2016, 10:40:50 AM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 26, 2016, 10:31:53 AM
Week 4 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Salisbury ( 4 )3-0492vs. TCNJ
2   St. John Fisher ( 1 )4-0443vs. Buffalo State
3   Stevenson4-0345at Miscercordia
4   Christopher Newport4-0316tat Rowan
5   St. Lawrence4-0294vs. Springfield
6   Hobart4-0236tvs. Merchant Marine
7   Alfred4-02210at Morrisville State
8   Utica4-014NRat Ithaca
9   Delaware Valley3-1111at Lebanon Valley
10  Western New England4-08NRat Nichols


Dropping Out:
Cortland State
Rowan

Also Receiving votes:               
Albright 6
Wesley 3
Cortland State 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Salisbury (1,1,1,2,1)
St. John Fisher (4,2,2,1,2)
Stevenson (3,7,3,4,4)
Christopher Newport (2,8,4,7,3)
St. Lawrence (6,3,5,3,9)
Hobart (5,4,6,6,NR)
Alfred (7,5,8,8,5)
Utica (10,6,9,9,7)
Delaware Valley (NR,9<NR,5,8)
Western New England (8,NR,7,NR,10)
Albright (NR,NR,10,NR,6)
Wesley (9,10,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,10,NR)

I am fine with this, except I believe someone still kept Albright below Delaware Valley, discounting Saturday's head-to-head result. Good to see WNEC get to the Top 10. I think as the season continue. I struggled this week filling out, because I went with on the field results vs. expectations. I do believe that both Delaware Valley and Wesley could beat any team on this list, but with two losses and loss to a two loss team at home, couldn't do it. I voted for Salisbury at #1, but that may change, they struggled early against Southern Virginia and had some turnovers, so that may change next week.

From that point, and I agree, how is Del Val still at 5 on 1 ballot?  Albright was outplayed by Salisbury in week 1 and although it was only a scrimmage, by Wesley in camp.  I am going with results on the field mostly, but expectations/beliefs do get in the way.  It seems like we are all over the place with many of the teams.  It will all sort out in the weeks to come since they all play each other.

rams1102

Quote from: wesleydad on September 26, 2016, 12:03:50 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on September 26, 2016, 10:40:50 AM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 26, 2016, 10:31:53 AM
Week 4 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Salisbury ( 4 )3-0492vs. TCNJ
2   St. John Fisher ( 1 )4-0443vs. Buffalo State
3   Stevenson4-0345at Miscercordia
4   Christopher Newport4-0316tat Rowan
5   St. Lawrence4-0294vs. Springfield
6   Hobart4-0236tvs. Merchant Marine
7   Alfred4-02210at Morrisville State
8   Utica4-014NRat Ithaca
9   Delaware Valley3-1111at Lebanon Valley
10  Western New England4-08NRat Nichols


Dropping Out:
Cortland State
Rowan

Also Receiving votes:               
Albright 6
Wesley 3
Cortland State 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Salisbury (1,1,1,2,1)
St. John Fisher (4,2,2,1,2)
Stevenson (3,7,3,4,4)
Christopher Newport (2,8,4,7,3)
St. Lawrence (6,3,5,3,9)
Hobart (5,4,6,6,NR)
Alfred (7,5,8,8,5)
Utica (10,6,9,9,7)
Delaware Valley (NR,9<NR,5,8)
Western New England (8,NR,7,NR,10)
Albright (NR,NR,10,NR,6)
Wesley (9,10,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,10,NR)

I am fine with this, except I believe someone still kept Albright below Delaware Valley, discounting Saturday's head-to-head result. Good to see WNEC get to the Top 10. I think as the season continue. I struggled this week filling out, because I went with on the field results vs. expectations. I do believe that both Delaware Valley and Wesley could beat any team on this list, but with two losses and loss to a two loss team at home, couldn't do it. I voted for Salisbury at #1, but that may change, they struggled early against Southern Virginia and had some turnovers, so that may change next week.

From that point, and I agree, how is Del Val still at 5 on 1 ballot?  Albright was outplayed by Salisbury in week 1 and although it was only a scrimmage, by Wesley in camp.  I am going with results on the field mostly, but expectations/beliefs do get in the way.  It seems like we are all over the place with many of the teams.  It will all sort out in the weeks to come since they all play each other.

I had Del Val at #5. I am not as well versed like yourself or some others but IMHO Albright has the ability to knock off anyone in the MAC. They may not be the best, but are pretty good. Del Val is still 3-1 and dropping to #9 I disagree. Let's see how they do against Leb Val. This is why I like being involved in the process.
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AUKaz00

Quote from: rams1102 on September 26, 2016, 12:45:41 PM
This is why I like being involved in the process.

Yeah, I like the distribution of opinions from our group.  It's hard to quibble with the aggregate rankings since they really are subjective regardless.  I think Wesley is actually the one "good" team that is hurt the most in all the convulsions of the East (and it didn't take long for our stink to get on them, huh?).  But I had to leave them off my ballot at the moment because of the current direct lines of Salisbury>Albright>Del Val>Wesley, The Steve>Albright>Del Val>Wesley, and Chris Newport>Wesley.  That's a lot of extra teams to sneak into the Top 10, though Wesley is probably just as good if not better than each of them. 
Then, what to make of the E8 and LL teams?  Brockport has played Hobart and Fisher tight, The Larries dropped a stomp-out on Morrisville who played Utica tight, Cortland played Fisher well after losing Ferreira but struggled against the Moose, and Alfred played Ithaca and RPI about as well as Hobart and St. Lawrence did, respectively.  Throw in that WNE didn't play demonstrably worse than Fisher against Springfield and I just don't know where everyone "should" be.  The lower portion of my top 15 seems stronger than usual.
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Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 26, 2016, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on September 26, 2016, 12:45:41 PM
This is why I like being involved in the process.

Yeah, I like the distribution of opinions from our group.  It's hard to quibble with the aggregate rankings since they really are subjective regardless.  I think Wesley is actually the one "good" team that is hurt the most in all the convulsions of the East (and it didn't take long for our stink to get on them, huh?).  But I had to leave them off my ballot at the moment because of the current direct lines of Salisbury>Albright>Del Val>Wesley, The Steve>Albright>Del Val>Wesley, and Chris Newport>Wesley.  That's a lot of extra teams to sneak into the Top 10, though Wesley is probably just as good if not better than each of them. 
Then, what to make of the E8 and LL teams?  Brockport has played Hobart and Fisher tight, The Larries dropped a stomp-out on Morrisville who played Utica tight, Cortland played Fisher well after losing Ferreira but struggled against the Moose, and Alfred played Ithaca and RPI about as well as Hobart and St. Lawrence did, respectively.  Throw in that WNE didn't play demonstrably worse than Fisher against Springfield and I just don't know where everyone "should" be.  The lower portion of my top 15 seems stronger than usual.
I think the rankings end up being pretty balanced, but then who knows after 4 games? I know I probably wouldn't want to play a Wesley team that has a lot to prove the rest of the season...but we will see
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