East Region Fan Poll

[wesleydad]

Good thing we did not have a preseason poll, would have just made us look bad.  This week will be very interesting.  Best team I saw was Brockport, I did not see the Frostburg win over Stevenson.  I figure we will be all over the place with the voting.

I watched that game, and they looked good. Most impressive team I think may have been Delval. Their defense looked very strong.

I was at the Wesley/Del Val game and watched the Brockport game.  My take is that Del Val benefited from Wesley mistakes, Wesley had 350+ yards and Del Val failed to score in the second half, only a safety whereas Brockport dominated the game and without mistakes could have scored 50+ so I put their win over the second highest ranked east team over Del Val's win over the first highest ranked team.  But that is what I think is going to make the poll interesting.  Some teams won, but struggled.  Let the east region carnage start, earlier than normal.

[Bartman]

Good thing we did not have a preseason poll, would have just made us look bad.  This week will be very interesting.  Best team I saw was Brockport, I did not see the Frostburg win over Stevenson.  I figure we will be all over the place with the voting.

I watched that game, and they looked good. Most impressive team I think may have been Delval. Their defense looked very strong.

I was at the Wesley/Del Val game and watched the Brockport game.  My take is that Del Val benefited from Wesley mistakes, Wesley had 350+ yards and Del Val failed to score in the second half, only a safety whereas Brockport dominated the game and without mistakes could have scored 50+ so I put their win over the second highest ranked east team over Del Val's win over the first highest ranked team.  But that is what I think is going to make the poll interesting.  Some teams won, but struggled.  Let the east region carnage start, earlier than normal.

Wesleydad,
   I agree with your assessment of the wins by Brockport and Del Val. I was totally impressed with Brockport and give them full credit even though the Hobart player and coaches performance was surprisingly below par , especially on defense and the Oline, and Sweeney failed to take full advantage of the 7 inch advantage that Shed had over his primary defender on key situations(threw one pick right into Sheds defenders chest in the end zone for an INT). I was impressed with Germinerio last year and I think he will be giving the E8 fits this year and they have the talent to be the best in the East as long as the Hobart win does not make them overconfident. I am interested to see how Hobart and Wesley rebound this weekend. Frostburg looked pretty solid out of the gate as well. I think you need at least 3-5 weeks to figure these teams out, so I will be guessing quite a bit in the early weeks of rankings.

[wesleydad]

Good thing we did not have a preseason poll, would have just made us look bad.  This week will be very interesting.  Best team I saw was Brockport, I did not see the Frostburg win over Stevenson.  I figure we will be all over the place with the voting.

I watched that game, and they looked good. Most impressive team I think may have been Delval. Their defense looked very strong.

I was at the Wesley/Del Val game and watched the Brockport game.  My take is that Del Val benefited from Wesley mistakes, Wesley had 350+ yards and Del Val failed to score in the second half, only a safety whereas Brockport dominated the game and without mistakes could have scored 50+ so I put their win over the second highest ranked east team over Del Val's win over the first highest ranked team.  But that is what I think is going to make the poll interesting.  Some teams won, but struggled.  Let the east region carnage start, earlier than normal.

Wesleydad,
   I agree with your assessment of the wins by Brockport and Del Val. I was totally impressed with Brockport and give them full credit even though the Hobart player and coaches performance was surprisingly below par , especially on defense and the Oline, and Sweeney failed to take full advantage of the 7 inch advantage that Shed had over his primary defender on key situations(threw one pick right into Sheds defenders chest in the end zone for an INT). I was impressed with Germinerio last year and I think he will be giving the E8 fits this year and they have the talent to be the best in the East as long as the Hobart win does not make them overconfident. I am interested to see how Hobart and Wesley rebound this weekend. Frostburg looked pretty solid out of the gate as well. I think you need at least 3-5 weeks to figure these teams out, so I will be guessing quite a bit in the early weeks of rankings.

Wesley has a month to figure it out.  They are off and then the 3 bottom teams in the NJAC.  Oct 7 against Frostburg will be the game to start the season again.  Win that one and things are back to normal, lose and you can go home.

[AUKaz00]

Hope this is posted in time to make this week's Alfred Sun.  Also, I was short one voter due to my late start this year (apologies) and used Hansen ratings to fill out the last spot.  I know this isn't ideal, but it's a good place holder for week 1.

[AUKaz00]

Week 1 Fan Poll 

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Delaware Valley ( 1 )	1-0	45	NR	at Lycoming
2   Frostburg State ( 2 )	1-0	42	NR	vs. TCNJ
3   Brockport State ( 1 )	1-0	39	NR	vs. Ithaca
4   Wesley ( 1 )	0-1	33	NR	Open
5t  Albright	1-0	30	NR	at Misericordia
5t  Alfred	1-0	30	NR	Open
7   Salisbury	0-1	12	NR	vs. William Paterson
8   Cortland State	1-0	9	NR	at Framingham State
9t  St. John Fisher	0-1	6	NR	at #9t Hobart
9t  Hobart	0-1	6	NR	vs. #9t St. John Fisher
9t  Stevenson	0-1	6	NR	vs. King's

Also Receiving votes:               
Buffalo State 5
Rowan 3
Utica 3
Christopher Newport 2
Husson 2
RPI 1
Trinity 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (1,3,2,2,2)
Frostburg State (5,1,3,3,1)
Brockport State (4,2,1,6,4)
Wesley (2,6,6,1,7)
Albright (3,5,5,7,5)
Alfred (8,4,4,6,3)
Salisbury (6,NR,NR,4,NR)
Cortland State (NR,7,NR,NR,6)
St. John Fisher (NR,NR,7,10,10)
Hobart (NR,NR,8,8,NR)
Stevenson (7,NR,NR,9,NR)
Buffalo State (NR,8,NR,NR,9)
Rowan (NR,NR,NR,NR,8)
Utica (10,9,NR,NR,NR)
Christopher Newport (NR,NR,9,NR,NR)
RPI (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,10,NR,NR,NR)

Key Matchups:
#9t St. John Fisher at #9t Hobart

[fisheralum91]

kaz- Well done
the list looks good-- pretty accurate for the first of the season...minus one blip



who voted Wesley NUMBER 1 in the region?

Has to be a typo?

right?

[wesleydad]

Week 1 Fan Poll 

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Delaware Valley ( 1 )	1-0	45	NR	at Lycoming
2   Frostburg State ( 2 )	1-0	42	NR	vs. TCNJ
3   Brockport State ( 1 )	1-0	39	NR	vs. Framingham State
4   Wesley ( 1 )	0-1	33	NR	Open
5t  Albright	1-0	30	NR	at Misericordia
5t  Alfred	1-0	30	NR	Open
7   Salisbury	1-0	12	NR	vs. William Paterson
8   Cortland State	1-0	9	NR	at Framingham State
9t  St. John Fisher	0-1	6	NR	at #9t Hobart
9t  Hobart	0-1	6	NR	vs. #9t St. John Fisher
9t  Stevenson	0-1	6	NR	vs. King's

Also Receiving votes:               
Buffalo State 5
Rowan 3
Utica 3
Christopher Newport 2
Husson 2
RPI 1
Trinity 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (1,3,2,2,2)
Frostburg State (5,1,3,3,1)
Brockport State (4,2,1,6,4)
Wesley (2,6,6,1,7)
Albright (3,5,5,7,5)
Alfred (8,4,4,6,3)
Salisbury (6,NR,NR,4,NR)
Cortland State (NR,7,NR,NR,6)
St. John Fisher (NR,NR,7,10,10)
Hobart (NR,NR,8,8,NR)
Stevenson (7,NR,NR,9,NR)
Buffalo State (NR,8,NR,NR,9)
Rowan (NR,NR,NR,NR,8)
Utica (10,9,NR,NR,NR)
Christopher Newport (NR,NR,9,NR,NR)
RPI (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,10,NR,NR,NR)

Key Matchups:
#9t St. John Fisher at #9t Hobart

Kaz, Salisbury lost to Albright.

[wesleydad]

Looks to me that some voted on what they think is going to happen and not what actually happened.  How is Salisbury a 4 when they lost to Albright?  How do you have Wesley at 1 or 2 when they lost?  Would love to hear the reasoning for any of this.  I know who I think will be the best team in the east when all is said and done, but they lost this week so I can not in anyway vote them a 1 or 2.  Based on this past week the top 3 look to be accurate in some order.  After that it is a crap shoot, even for the teams that won their games.  If some of the other teams in the east would have won I would have dropped Wesley out of the top 10.  Always open for interpretation and would love to have a conversation on how others are going about filling out their poll.

[fisheralum91]

My question put so much more eloquently

[wesleydad]

My question put so much more eloquently

Hah, I dont usually get occused of being eloquent.

[wally_wabash]

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that the #1 Wesley vote has to be that which was pulled from the Hansen Ratings.  A ratings model seems the most likely place where that h2h result would get washed out by a mountain of other variables. 

[AUKaz00]

Sorry for the mistakes; I was rushing to meet the Alfred Sun deadline since I was off yesterday.  I fixed Salisbury's record and Brockport's opponent.
As for the Wesley #1, that is the Hansen rankings which will hopefully be replaced by a fifth voter next week.  If I'm short and you'd like to be my alternate, please let me know.

[fisheralum91]

kaz- job well done as usual,
didnt mean to sound like I was complaining- merely was looking for explanation of Wesley #1 rank.
I got it- Thank you!

[rams1102]

I'm #5 in the Poll. I made a mistake and did not want to confuse the issue. Cortland SB #10. Something told me Augustana was much better. They were actually very bad after I looked. My theory is that you should vote on what has happened and not what should be. As the season progresses then things change. I had Wesley 7th, Hobart out, they got beat pretty good. How can you pick Salisbury 4th then Wesley #1, Albright 7th and B-Port #6.  This is all fun and just peoples opinions. Nobody is really right or wrong.

[wesleydad]

Sorry for the mistakes; I was rushing to meet the Alfred Sun deadline since I was off yesterday.  I fixed Salisbury's record and Brockport's opponent.
As for the Wesley #1, that is the Hansen rankings which will hopefully be replaced by a fifth voter next week.  If I'm short and you'd like to be my alternate, please let me know.

thanks Kaz, see what happens when a computer does the thinking, it doesn't always make sense.  I hope we have plenty of dialogue on this.  That is what makes it fun.  I like to hear how others came to their rankings, I posted my thoughts earlier.