East Region Fan Poll

wesleydad · October 15, 2017, 08:07:02 AM

The last 3 spots are really tough this week. Plenty of 1 or 2 loss teams to pick from, just not sure who should go in.

bman · October 15, 2017, 10:24:26 AM

Quote from: wesleydad on October 15, 2017, 08:07:02 AM
The last 3 spots are really tough this week. Plenty of 1 or 2 loss teams to pick from, just not sure who should go in.

Well I think we can finally put the Stevenson debate to bed...

UfanBill · October 15, 2017, 11:07:06 AM

Quote from: bman on October 15, 2017, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 15, 2017, 08:07:02 AM
The last 3 spots are really tough this week. Plenty of 1 or 2 loss teams to pick from, just not sure who should go in.
Well I think we can finally put the Stevenson debate to bed...

Well wait...they did have a close loss to a team, Lebanon Valley that could beat Del Valley in two weeks.

Bartman · October 15, 2017, 04:52:30 PM

Quote from: wesleydad on October 15, 2017, 08:07:02 AM
The last 3 spots are really tough this week. Plenty of 1 or 2 loss teams to pick from, just not sure who should go in.

I think the top 4 are easy( I still think Brockport has kept #1) , then what? Springfield because they are undefeated....but their schedule is not that challenging this year, then there are a whole bunch of 1 and 2 loss teams that you can make a case for....I kept voting for Alfred as #3 since they were undefeated, but now when I look at their schedule to date and their loss to the Red Dragons, how strong is the argument to separate them from the other 1 loss or even 2 loss teams(including Cortland)?.....I feel like not even looking at last weeks poll and reviewing it fresh.....I am sure there will be a lot of variability in the bottom five this week

D3MAFAN · October 15, 2017, 05:42:38 PM

My top 10 is totally revamped. I used recent head-to-head to decide the remaining. I think this week has been really crazy. I think some teams are improving while others are not. I just hope we have 3 undefeated teams remaining after week 11 with 5 or 6 one loss teams and a very solid 2 loss team to round out our Top 10 when the Regional rankings show. Hoping we can get two At-Larges in (this is totally bias because of RAMS loss this week...lol).

wesleydad · October 15, 2017, 05:45:12 PM

Quote from: Bartman on October 15, 2017, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on October 15, 2017, 08:07:02 AM
The last 3 spots are really tough this week. Plenty of 1 or 2 loss teams to pick from, just not sure who should go in.
I think the top 4 are easy( I still think Brockport has kept #1) , then what? Springfield because they are undefeated....but their schedule is not that challenging this year, then there are a whole bunch of 1 and 2 loss teams that you can make a case for....I kept voting for Alfred as #3 since they were undefeated, but now when I look at their schedule to date and their loss to the Red Dragons, how strong is the argument to separate them from the other 1 loss or even 2 loss teams(including Cortland)?.....I feel like not even looking at last weeks poll and reviewing it fresh.....I am sure there will be a lot of variability in the bottom five this week

Springfield common result with Wesley, they beat Kean 28-8 and Wesley beat Kean 29-9. I kept Brockport at 1. Alfred worried me with the way they had been playing. I jumped Salisbury up to 5, not a fan of 3 teams from the same league at 3,4, and 5, but I couldn't find anyone else and it was tough to give Springfield 5. After Framingham losing I threw West Conn in since they beat Plymouth easily in week one. They have a bad loss, but I like to spread things out to all conferences. The top 5 will all play out in the next few weeks. I think Del Val is looking at the easiest remaining schedule.

AUKaz00 · October 16, 2017, 10:02:22 AM

Week 7 Fan Poll

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1t Brockport State ( 3 )	6-0	47	1t	vs. Hartwick
1t Delaware Valley ( 2 )	7-0	47	1t	Open Date
3 Wesley	5-1	41	3	vs. Rowan
4 Frostburg State	5-1	35	4	vs. Montclair State
5 Springfield	7-0	28	7	vs. Catholic
6 Salisbury	5-1	25	8	vs. Southern Virginia
7 Alfred	5-1	15	5	vs. RPI
8t Albright	5-1	6	9	at Stevenson
8t Plymouth State	6-1	6	NR	at Massachusetts Maritime
10t Framingham State	5-1	5	6	vs. Westfield State
10t Hobart	5-2	5	NR	at Union

Dropping Out:
Christopher Newport
Stevenson

Also Receiving votes:
Christopher Newport 4
Trinity 4
Widener 4
Cortland State 2
Western Connecticut 1


Voting Distribution:

Brockport State (1,2,1,1,3)
Delaware Valley (2,1,2,2,1)
Wesley (3,3,3,3,2)
Frostburg State (4,4,4,4,4)
Springfield (5,6,6,5,5)
Salisbury (6,5,5,8,6)
Alfred (7,9,8,6,10)
Albright (NR,NR,9,7,NR)
Plymouth State (9,NR,NR,NR,7)
Framingham State (10,NR,NR,10,8)
Hobart (NR,8,NR,9,NR)
Christopher Newport (8,10,NR,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,NR,7,NR,NR)
Widener (NR,7,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Western Connecticut (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)

Bartman · October 16, 2017, 11:02:13 AM

Pretty much as expected for the top 5 , but then some differences in opinion in the next five. However, I must say I really miss The Steve, now that they have dropped out. $:-\$

D3MAFAN · October 16, 2017, 11:04:55 AM

Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 16, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
Week 7 Fan Poll

Team Record Points Last Rating Next Week
1t Brockport State ( 3 ) 6-0 47 1t vs. Hartwick
1t Delaware Valley ( 2 ) 7-0 47 1t Open Date
3 Wesley 5-1 41 3 vs. Rowan
4 Frostburg State 5-1 35 4 vs. Montclair State
5 Springfield 7-0 28 7 vs. Catholic
6 Salisbury 5-1 25 8 vs. Southern Virginia
7 Alfred 5-1 15 5 vs. RPI
8t Albright 5-1 6 9 at Stevenson
8t Plymouth State 6-1 6 NR at Massachusetts Maritime
10t Framingham State 5-1 5 6 vs. Westfield State
10t Hobart 5-2 5 NR at Union

Dropping Out:
Christopher Newport
Stevenson

Also Receiving votes:
Christopher Newport 4
Trinity 4
Widener 4
Cortland State 2
Western Connecticut 1


Voting Distribution:

Brockport State (1,2,1,1,3)
Delaware Valley (2,1,2,2,1)
Wesley (3,3,3,3,2)
Frostburg State (4,4,4,4,4)
Springfield (5,6,6,5,5)
Salisbury (6,5,5,8,6)
Alfred (7,9,8,6,10)
Albright (NR,NR,9,7,NR)
Plymouth State (9,NR,NR,NR,7)
Framingham State (10,NR,NR,10,8)
Hobart (NR,8,NR,9,NR)
Christopher Newport (8,10,NR,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,NR,7,NR,NR)
Widener (NR,7,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Western Connecticut (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)

As always the bottom is a huge cluster (watch your mouth). However, I am curious on the Widener vote at 7. Haven't watch them play since the early loss to Rowan, but have they improved much since? I know the MASCAC has a couple team on the rise and one neutral. This all makes for an interesting end of the season run for many teams.

wesleydad · October 16, 2017, 11:37:39 AM

Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 16, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 16, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
Week 7 Fan Poll

Team Record Points Last Rating Next Week
1t Brockport State ( 3 ) 6-0 47 1t vs. Hartwick
1t Delaware Valley ( 2 ) 7-0 47 1t Open Date
3 Wesley 5-1 41 3 vs. Rowan
4 Frostburg State 5-1 35 4 vs. Montclair State
5 Springfield 7-0 28 7 vs. Catholic
6 Salisbury 5-1 25 8 vs. Southern Virginia
7 Alfred 5-1 15 5 vs. RPI
8t Albright 5-1 6 9 at Stevenson
8t Plymouth State 6-1 6 NR at Massachusetts Maritime
10t Framingham State 5-1 5 6 vs. Westfield State
10t Hobart 5-2 5 NR at Union

Dropping Out:
Christopher Newport
Stevenson

Also Receiving votes:
Christopher Newport 4
Trinity 4
Widener 4
Cortland State 2
Western Connecticut 1


Voting Distribution:

Brockport State (1,2,1,1,3)
Delaware Valley (2,1,2,2,1)
Wesley (3,3,3,3,2)
Frostburg State (4,4,4,4,4)
Springfield (5,6,6,5,5)
Salisbury (6,5,5,8,6)
Alfred (7,9,8,6,10)
Albright (NR,NR,9,7,NR)
Plymouth State (9,NR,NR,NR,7)
Framingham State (10,NR,NR,10,8)
Hobart (NR,8,NR,9,NR)
Christopher Newport (8,10,NR,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,NR,7,NR,NR)
Widener (NR,7,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Western Connecticut (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)

As always the bottom is a huge cluster (watch your mouth). However, I am curious on the Widener vote at 7. Haven't watch them play since the early loss to Rowan, but have they improved much since? I know the MASCAC has a couple team on the rise and one neutral. This all makes for an interesting end of the season run for many teams.

Looks like Widener replaced the Steve vote and took spot 7. They only have 1 loss but have been unimpressive in their victories. They still have Stevenson and Del Val left so they may just move on up.

ITH radio · October 16, 2017, 01:52:48 PM

What I find interesting is the possibility of having 3 ER teams go 10-0, two of those in the Top 10 (or should be). Will make bracketing interesting if that's the case.

gordonmann · October 16, 2017, 01:59:17 PM

The two ER undefeated teams can play each other in the second round for the right to go to Alliance for the national quarterfinal.

(Ducks thrown objects)

ITH radio · October 16, 2017, 02:03:30 PM

Ha - well played (and good potential for that being likely).

We could see a situation like 2012 when Hobart got put in same bracket as UST given their location (not dissimilar to BP's being Western NY). Could also see DVC end up as a two-type seed in south / UMHB bracket too.

Time will tell.

MRMIKESMITH · October 16, 2017, 02:43:09 PM

Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 16, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 16, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
Week 7 Fan Poll

Team Record Points Last Rating Next Week
1t Brockport State ( 3 ) 6-0 47 1t vs. Hartwick
1t Delaware Valley ( 2 ) 7-0 47 1t Open Date
3 Wesley 5-1 41 3 vs. Rowan
4 Frostburg State 5-1 35 4 vs. Montclair State
5 Springfield 7-0 28 7 vs. Catholic
6 Salisbury 5-1 25 8 vs. Southern Virginia
7 Alfred 5-1 15 5 vs. RPI
8t Albright 5-1 6 9 at Stevenson
8t Plymouth State 6-1 6 NR at Massachusetts Maritime
10t Framingham State 5-1 5 6 vs. Westfield State
10t Hobart 5-2 5 NR at Union

Dropping Out:
Christopher Newport
Stevenson

Also Receiving votes:
Christopher Newport 4
Trinity 4
Widener 4
Cortland State 2
Western Connecticut 1


Voting Distribution:

Brockport State (1,2,1,1,3)
Delaware Valley (2,1,2,2,1)
Wesley (3,3,3,3,2)
Frostburg State (4,4,4,4,4)
Springfield (5,6,6,5,5)
Salisbury (6,5,5,8,6)
Alfred (7,9,8,6,10)
Albright (NR,NR,9,7,NR)
Plymouth State (9,NR,NR,NR,7)
Framingham State (10,NR,NR,10,8)
Hobart (NR,8,NR,9,NR)
Christopher Newport (8,10,NR,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,NR,7,NR,NR)
Widener (NR,7,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Western Connecticut (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)

As always the bottom is a huge cluster (watch your mouth). However, I am curious on the Widener vote at 7. Haven't watch them play since the early loss to Rowan, but have they improved much since? I know the MASCAC has a couple team on the rise and one neutral. This all makes for an interesting end of the season run for many teams.

Currently there is no wrong answer for the Bottom 6, you have your preferences. I think some teams are better than displayed. I think that some conferences are tougher than others, but that doesn't discount a team from a weaker conference not being just as good as a top team from another. Looking on a national scale, I would want our best representative to play against the other top representatives after week 2 or 3 of playoffs. I just don't want to see Delaware Valley and Wesley playing each other (if everything holds true) again in the 1st round of playoffs or even 2nd round, which is very possible and likely I guess with the trip to alliance. Maybe they make Wesley play it's 2nd round matchup in another region again like last year.

bman · October 16, 2017, 09:03:25 PM

Quote from: wesleydad on October 16, 2017, 11:37:39 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 16, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 16, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
Week 7 Fan Poll

Team Record Points Last Rating Next Week
1t Brockport State ( 3 ) 6-0 47 1t vs. Hartwick
1t Delaware Valley ( 2 ) 7-0 47 1t Open Date
3 Wesley 5-1 41 3 vs. Rowan
4 Frostburg State 5-1 35 4 vs. Montclair State
5 Springfield 7-0 28 7 vs. Catholic
6 Salisbury 5-1 25 8 vs. Southern Virginia
7 Alfred 5-1 15 5 vs. RPI
8t Albright 5-1 6 9 at Stevenson
8t Plymouth State 6-1 6 NR at Massachusetts Maritime
10t Framingham State 5-1 5 6 vs. Westfield State
10t Hobart 5-2 5 NR at Union

Dropping Out:
Christopher Newport
Stevenson

Also Receiving votes:
Christopher Newport 4
Trinity 4
Widener 4
Cortland State 2
Western Connecticut 1


Voting Distribution:

Brockport State (1,2,1,1,3)
Delaware Valley (2,1,2,2,1)
Wesley (3,3,3,3,2)
Frostburg State (4,4,4,4,4)
Springfield (5,6,6,5,5)
Salisbury (6,5,5,8,6)
Alfred (7,9,8,6,10)
Albright (NR,NR,9,7,NR)
Plymouth State (9,NR,NR,NR,7)
Framingham State (10,NR,NR,10,8)
Hobart (NR,8,NR,9,NR)
Christopher Newport (8,10,NR,NR,NR)
Trinity (NR,NR,7,NR,NR)
Widener (NR,7,NR,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Western Connecticut (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)

As always the bottom is a huge cluster (watch your mouth). However, I am curious on the Widener vote at 7. Haven't watch them play since the early loss to Rowan, but have they improved much since? I know the MASCAC has a couple team on the rise and one neutral. This all makes for an interesting end of the season run for many teams.

Looks like Widener replaced the Steve vote and took spot 7. They only have 1 loss but have been unimpressive in their victories. They still have Stevenson and Del Val left so they may just move on up.

That makes no sense. They don't belong near the top ten at this point...