East Region Fan Poll

[TheOsprey]

What ever happen to Blueblood, that posted for WConn back about that time?

[Pat Coleman]

Blueblood, Ripoletti ...

[TheOsprey]

Yeah.  That group was a hoot.

[Ice Bear]

Dutch doesn't feel West Conn or MIT belongs.  West Conn for all the previously stated reasons and then some...MIT beats Coast Guard 13-0...? Listen, not that Dutch Boy's poll is iron clad, but are we doing a poll that attempts to parallel the regional rankings that we all love so much or are we attempting to use our insider knowledge, as fans, ex-players, ex-Wanna-be-players (Dutch Boy's category), etc, to accurately rate who "we" believe to be the best,  most competitive ten teams playing football in the east?

If the later is the case than Dutch Boy hopes that we all know, as a result of our observations and experiences around the D3 football landscape that records, especially here in the east (and certainly other regions as well) do not always accurately reflect how good a team is. **** look at UMU? Would MIT give them a game? One criteria says yes, they are both undefeated...every other criteria Dutch Boy can ****ing think of says no. We just need to decide which direction we want to go?

as this continues to be argued are we still using alfred and hobart as our comparisons?  Both 3 loss teams, but some think they are still in the top 10.  are you kidding me?  I have less issue with W Conn being in then I do with those that think a 3 loss team is still worthy of a top 10 position.  I have no issue dropping Wesley out, their 2 loses compared to other 2 loss teams are not as good.  Do I think they crush W Conn or MIT, probably but they just lost to Rowan who barely beat So Va and TCNJ, are those teams any better than W Conn or MIT.  We are talking about the 9 and 10 spots in a region.  I would rather have a team that is unbeaten in those spots than teams with 2 or 3 loses. after the first 5 teams we are drawing straws as to who is in.  I still think Wesley is the second best team in the east, but the results dont bare that out.  This is not a what do I think will happen thing, this is a what did actually happen thing.  Thanks Dutch for joining the voting, at least you put up.

Isn't this, your preference, the same thing as going by what one "thinks?" We'll have to agree to disagree, which is cool. However last word Larry has to say that if a poll is used to show the best teams and let's say you are 90% Wesley would monkey stomp West Conn and MIT (which you have said), why should record take precedence over that? If we are almost certain that one team is better than another, based on the level of their play and the competition they face, why should they not be included? There in lies the rub fellas.

[Machiavelli]

Dutch doesn't feel West Conn or MIT belongs.  West Conn for all the previously stated reasons and then some...MIT beats Coast Guard 13-0...? Listen, not that Dutch Boy's poll is iron clad, but are we doing a poll that attempts to parallel the regional rankings that we all love so much or are we attempting to use our insider knowledge, as fans, ex-players, ex-Wanna-be-players (Dutch Boy's category), etc, to accurately rate who "we" believe to be the best,  most competitive ten teams playing football in the east?

If the later is the case than Dutch Boy hopes that we all know, as a result of our observations and experiences around the D3 football landscape that records, especially here in the east (and certainly other regions as well) do not always accurately reflect how good a team is. **** look at UMU? Would MIT give them a game? One criteria says yes, they are both undefeated...every other criteria Dutch Boy can ****ing think of says no. We just need to decide which direction we want to go?

as this continues to be argued are we still using alfred and hobart as our comparisons?  Both 3 loss teams, but some think they are still in the top 10.  are you kidding me?  I have less issue with W Conn being in then I do with those that think a 3 loss team is still worthy of a top 10 position.  I have no issue dropping Wesley out, their 2 loses compared to other 2 loss teams are not as good.  Do I think they crush W Conn or MIT, probably but they just lost to Rowan who barely beat So Va and TCNJ, are those teams any better than W Conn or MIT.  We are talking about the 9 and 10 spots in a region.  I would rather have a team that is unbeaten in those spots than teams with 2 or 3 loses. after the first 5 teams we are drawing straws as to who is in.  I still think Wesley is the second best team in the east, but the results dont bare that out.  This is not a what do I think will happen thing, this is a what did actually happen thing.  Thanks Dutch for joining the voting, at least you put up.

Isn't this, your preference, the same thing as going by what one "thinks?" We'll have to agree to disagree, which is cool. However last word Larry has to say that if a poll is used to show the best teams and let's say you are 90% Wesley would monkey stomp West Conn and MIT (which you have said), why should record take precedence over that? If we are almost certain that one team is better than another, based on the level of their play and the competition they face, why should they not be included? There in lies the rub fellas.

But it's just not FAIR to West Conn DB! They EARNED all of those wins! They DESERVE to be in the poll because they are undefeated. Blah blah blah. Next year this can be called the East Region Poll of Best Records.

[TheOsprey]

Or the East Region Poll of what Mach wants...🏈

[Machiavelli]

Or the East Region Poll of what Mach wants...🏈

AKA - The '10 Best Teams in the East Region'

[jmcozenlaw]

I've shown up at the 50 at the Stagg Bowl every year since then, but have yet to see Western Connecticut State.

This was back in 1999. Western Conn ran the table in the regular season, going 10-0, got a first-round bye (hey, it was the first year of the new system, the committee didn't know any better, but we advocated for Lycoming being moved into the East bracket). They then lost to Montclair State and went one-and-out.

Western Conn did go to the playoffs in 2001, lost 43-14 to Rowan in the first round.

Poster's name was Rodman. Every once in a while I hear from Jim Stout, one of the founding members of the D3football.com staff, with a Rodman sighting. Rodman would be in his late 30s by now.

Rodman is busy these days brokering peace with North Korea

[Machiavelli]

The Rodman days were some of the best days. Very early on, but what a character. DIdn't have the staying power of HollaDawg or 'Gro, Reg etc, but he was probably one of the more memorable. Who Dat Said Gon Beat WESCONN!!! Osborne St. Pub 4-Eva

[MRMIKESMITH]

I think the picture is clearing up for me. Brockport continues to separate themselves from the rest of group. I think Frostburg has proven it can win the big games and win when their back is against the wall. I think Salisbury may have at least the a Top 3 defense in the region. Cortland offense appears to be firing on all cylinders, still questionable about defense. RPI has done what its needed and continues to win. Wesley has loss two big games and has question marks at the QB and LB positions. Montclair continues to show well and has proved it can compete against the Top NJAC teams. Delaware Valley continues to win after the early season loss to Wesley. Then there is MIT, who continues to win, who has beaten its major conference competitor, but still needs to play a good WPI and good Springfield team.

[Ice Bear]

An upcoming scene from Mach's Mom's basement:

"Mom! Framingham is going to ****ing homogenize West Conn...MEATLOAF, ****!

[Machiavelli]

So a few of these could be interchangeable, but this is totally legit. The good news is WestConn might crack the ERFP Top 25 for me(but it still feels forced):

1   Brockport
2   Frostburg St.
3   RPI
4   Salisbury
5   Wesley
6   Delaware Valley
7   Ithaca
8   Montclair St.
9   Rowan
10   Cortland
11   Christopher Newport
12   Stevenson
13   Framingham St.
14   MIT
15   Merchant Marine
16   Springfield
17   Endicott
18   Hobart
19   Misericordia
20   Western New England
21   Alfred
22   Utica
23   Morisville St.
24   Husson
25   Western Ct.

[Ice Bear]

So a few of these could be interchangeable, but this is totally legit. The good news is WestConn might crack the ERFP Top 25 for me(but it still feels forced):

1   Brockport
2   Frostburg St.
3   RPI
4   Salisbury
5   Wesley
6   Delaware Valley
7   Ithaca
8   Montclair St.
9   Rowan
10   Cortland
11   Christopher Newport
12   Stevenson
13   Framingham St.
14   MIT
15   Merchant Marine
16   Springfield
17   Endicott
18   Hobart
19   Misericordia
20   Western New England
21   Alfred
22   Utica
23   Morisville St.
24   Husson
25   Western Ct.

Alfred beats 14-20

[Machiavelli]

So a few of these could be interchangeable, but this is totally legit. The good news is WestConn might crack the ERFP Top 25 for me(but it still feels forced):

1   Brockport
2   Frostburg St.
3   RPI
4   Salisbury
5   Wesley
6   Delaware Valley
7   Ithaca
8   Montclair St.
9   Rowan
10   Cortland
11   Christopher Newport
12   Stevenson
13   Framingham St.
14   MIT
15   Merchant Marine
16   Springfield
17   Endicott
18   Hobart
19   Misericordia
20   Western New England
21   Alfred
22   Utica
23   Morisville St.
24   Husson
25   Western Ct.

Alfred beats 14-20

I don't disagree. I think you can throw 13-23 in a hat and pull them out.

[MRMIKESMITH]

So a few of these could be interchangeable, but this is totally legit. The good news is WestConn might crack the ERFP Top 25 for me(but it still feels forced):

1   Brockport
2   Frostburg St.
3   RPI
4   Salisbury
5   Wesley
6   Delaware Valley
7   Ithaca
8   Montclair St.
9   Rowan
10   Cortland
11   Christopher Newport
12   Stevenson
13   Framingham St.
14   MIT
15   Merchant Marine
16   Springfield
17   Endicott
18   Hobart
19   Misericordia
20   Western New England
21   Alfred
22   Utica
23   Morisville St.
24   Husson
25   Western Ct.

Alfred beats 14-20

I don't disagree. I think you can throw 13-23 in a hat and pull them out.

...and not 24 or 25?