East Region Fan Poll

[ITH radio]

Rankings are out:

1. BP
2. FSU
3. RPI
4. DVC
5. CORT
6. SALS
7. WCT
8. USMMA
9. IC
10. WNE

Wondering what puts Merchant Marine ahead of MIT since MIT has the H2H victory.  You can see that the committee was grasping for number 10 going with WNE.  Several other 2 loss teams probably should be in that spot.

As KMack said on a recent ATN pod, Misericordia (who lost to USMMA in Wk 1) is the "gift that keeps on giving".

[Bombers798891]

Speaking of Misericordia, who gets that Pool A if they and DVC go unbeaten in conference?

[Pat Coleman]

Del Val has the tiebreaker as long as Stevenson finishes above FDU-Florham.

[MRMIKESMITH]

Rankings are out:

1. BP
2. FSU
3. RPI
4. DVC
5. CORT
6. SALS
7. WCT
8. USMMA
9. IC
10. WNE

So the rankings tell me that Salisbury needs to win the conference and Cortland controls its own destiny and if they beat Brockport, both Brockport and Cortland are in and Salisbury out. At the end of the day, Salisbury playoff chances may come down to Salisbury and Frostburg last Regent Cup game as DIII members.

[Ice Bear]

Hey I'm just going to share a post in here and let you guys keep talking.

Please please please I know we would all love to see another Cortaca, **** I would attend, but please please Ithaca and Cortland do not look past these two NEFC teams. Please throttle them both and send them back to New England so the NCAA idiots look more like idiots than they already do. I know PSU got the bid and for that they belong (obviously) but the one loss Curry is a joke. That is unless they win or even keep it close. Let's take care of business first and then talk Cortaca #II. I wrote this on the NJAC board, thought it should be said.

Pencilneck that's from ****ing 2008 ...that's a damn decade ago. The utter stupidity of your post dork is only outdone by the time it took you to go back and find that. Back then DB made sense maybe one out of every 20 posts...he's learned a lot since then. His ignorance regarding NE football was obvious then as he rarely if ever paid any attention to it. Today his only point remains...and he'll say it for the slow ****ers in the room, is that if we, the ERFP voters, know with a large amount of confidence that a team is better than another, it is ****ing stupid to rank them lower than a team we all know they could beat. You guys can make this into DB hates NE, DB doesen't think any NE team deserves a chance ever...blah blah blah...but it's a simple statement that he believes in and he holds true when coming up with his ER top ten.

[Ice Bear]

Mach's post says exactly what DB would say. The purple drank built that program up and was clearly the top of the heap of NE. They really opened the door for what seems like some growth from some other NE teams since then, (Salve, WNEU, Husson, Framingham). However those few schools tend to be the exception in NE and when they come out of NE come playoff time (as well as during the regular season) they usually lose to other ER teams.

Listen Buffalo St defeated Whitewater a couple years back? Upsets happen. How many times would they have defeated UDub if they played 10 times??? Maybe once, tops, probably zip. Use common sense here a bit. As stated in the past DB really does enjoy NE football and wants to see the level of play grow there across the board (and it has improved a bit IDBHO). Yet to start saying that simply based on a teams record against weaker opponents that they should be included in the TOP ten of the ER over a team with 2-3 loses that everyone on the planet knows is better...is ****ing stupid, IDBHO.

This is the problem I have. It's not the idea of the one off, "I think Ithaca is better than W. Conn in 2018" or whoever.

It's treating the idea that New England teams can't compete with New York teams as some sort of axiom, and questioning how could anyone think otherwise, and then we're all stunned because the first team to go 10-0 in the big, bad E8 needed overtime to beat two-loss Bridgewater at home, and a goal-line stand to sneak past Western New England.

That's not the case...IDBHO you are cherry picking. Read post above. If you still have a problem than we agree to disagree...

[TheOsprey]

Rankings are out:

1. BP
2. FSU
3. RPI
4. DVC
5. CORT
6. SALS
7. WCT
8. USMMA
9. IC
10. WNE

So, if you're IC, is it possible to be the first Pool C team in the East?

I thinks Salisbury has to lose twice to get ahead of them.  Or less chance FROSTY losing twice.

[TheOsprey]

Any thoughts on what the Regional Rankings will look like? I believe its going to be:

1.   Brockport (8-0)
2.   Frostburg (8-0)
3.   RPI (8-0)
4.   Salisbury (8-0)
5.   Delaware Valley (7-1)
6.   Cortland State (7-1)
7.   Western Conn (8-0)
8.   Merchant Marine (7-1)
9.   Misericordia (7-1)
10.   Montclair State (6-2)/Western New England (7-1)

Rankings are out:

1. BP
2. FSU
3. RPI
4. DVC
5. CORT
6. SALS
7. WCT
8. USMMA
9. IC
10. WNE

Ditto!

[Bartman]

           ERFP               NCAA
1   70   Brockport .......Brockport           
2   63   Frostburg........Frosty
3   55   RPI.................RPI
4   50   Salisbury.........Delaware Valley
5   34   Ithaca.............Cortland
6   29   Del Val............Salisbury
7   28   Cortland..........West Conn
8   28   Montclair..........USMMA
9   15   Wesley.............Ithaca
10   8   W Conn........... Western NE

My opinion is that the ERFP is a better indication of  how these teams really stack up in the region. The big factor here appears to be  that "good losses" by Wesley and Ithaca get no recognition in the NCAA formula(or very little) , which also impacts Montclair.  So, this looks like Brockport or Frosty need to be upset to get an Eastern Region team a Pool C slot(which would go to one of them) or possibly Salisbury IF they beat Wesley(which I don't think will happen) and then lose to Frosty. If Salisbury loses twice and BPORT and Frosty win out , no pool C for the East. Can anyone see another scenario for an Eastern Pool C based on this Week One ranking, I might be missing something? Also, the only teams from the East that I see winning 2 or more games in the tourney are Brockport and Frosty,with BPORT having the best chance to go to the Stagg for an East team in many years.

[Bombers798891]

That's not the case...IDBHO you are cherry picking. Read post above. If you still have a problem than we agree to disagree...

You literally wrote that "Everyone on the planet knows" that the NY teams are better than the NE teams. How is the world is that not an axiom?

[Ice Bear]

That's not the case...IDBHO you are cherry picking. Read post above. If you still have a problem than we agree to disagree...

You literally wrote that "Everyone on the planet knows" that the NY teams are better than the NE teams. How is the world is that not an axiom?

Aren't they 9 out of 10 times? Especially this year?

[Ice Bear]

Certainly all good points here...but again Ithaca defeats West Conn 9 out of 10 times...maybe 10 out of 10.

What were your thoughts before Ithaca/Curry '08?

That Curry team had been the cream of New England for 7-8 years consecutively and had playoff experience and were starting to become a wagon at that time. They were recruiting well and had great coaches. They can NOT be compared to this year's West Conn who can barely beat horrible teams.

To that, they also lost the following week to Cortland 42-0.

A Cortland team Ithaca had whipped 35-13 in the last week of the season, no less

Mach's post says exactly what DB would say. The purple drank built that program up and was clearly the top of the heap of NE. They really opened the door for what seems like some growth from some other NE teams since then, (Salve, WNEU, Husson, Framingham). However those few schools tend to be the exception in NE and when they come out of NE come playoff time (as well as during the regular season) they usually lose to other ER teams.

Listen Buffalo St defeated Whitewater a couple years back? Upsets happen. How many times would they have defeated UDub if they played 10 times??? Maybe once, tops, probably zip. Use common sense here a bit. As stated in the past DB really does enjoy NE football and wants to see the level of play grow there across the board (and it has improved a bit IDBHO). Yet to start saying that simply based on a teams record against weaker opponents that they should be included in the TOP ten of the ER over a team with 2-3 loses that everyone on the planet knows is better...is ****ing stupid, IDBHO.

Using all the information we have, and using our best judgment the strongest teams in the ER, regardless of record, should be in the poll.

DB gives some credit to NE schools but again, states the obvious. Even the best of them end up losing to E8/NJAC/LL/MAC schools. Your choice of words to quote makes DB's exact point. Why rank a team ahead of another team when everyone knows 9 out 10 times they just aren't as good? If everyone knows it why tip ****ing toe around it?

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[Pat Coleman]

Pencilneck that's from ****ing 2008 ...that's a damn decade ago. The utter stupidity of your post dork is only outdone by the time it took you to go back and find that. Back then DB made sense maybe one out of every 20 posts...he's learned a lot since then.

It only took dlippin' two minutes to find it because I know how the board works. Just answering the question that was posed earlier.

Certainly all good points here...but again Ithaca defeats West Conn 9 out of 10 times...maybe 10 out of 10.

What were your thoughts before Ithaca/Curry '08?

[Ice Bear]

Pencilneck that's from ****ing 2008 ...that's a damn decade ago. The utter stupidity of your post dork is only outdone by the time it took you to go back and find that. Back then DB made sense maybe one out of every 20 posts...he's learned a lot since then.

It only took dlippin' two minutes to find it because I know how the board works. Just answering the question that was posed earlier.

Certainly all good points here...but again Ithaca defeats West Conn 9 out of 10 times...maybe 10 out of 10.

What were your thoughts before Ithaca/Curry '08?

Fair enough Probably should have typed this first...DB will insert his dlipplin...