East Region Fan Poll

[wesleydad]

I am hoping that round 2 brings the top 4 teams together.  It will certainly clarify who should be number 1.  I don't think Hobart or Ithaca would beat up on either Del Val or Wesley.  Neither team seems to get beat up on by anyone they play outside of the top 3 or 4 in D3.  Those of us who have been around here long enough know that the top of NJAC, MAC, LL, and E8 are tough outs if you have to play them and usually when the teams play each other the games are extremely competitive.  Union is good this year, if they win this week they will get a chance to prove how good they are against the top seed in the bracket. 

[Ice Bear]

I feel like this was an addition to prop up Del Val and Wesley. That addition gives them a combined 2 RR wins. With the lack of respect for the other East conferences getting these 2 seeded as high as possible might have been a priority. How they were the next at-large on the board after Wesley with no RR wins and SOS below both Hobart and Ithaca is beyond me.

We'll never know, but i'm pretty sure Hobart and Ithaca would both beat Stevenson and Western New England by more than 3 TD's. But i'm pretty sure both would beat up on Del Val too, so it is what it is.

If Hobart and Ithaca would "beat up on Del Val", don't leave out Wesley as another team that both would "beat up" on.......since DelVal and Wesley played a 4 overtime game this year. I saw Ithaca crap the bed twice this year. THAT Ithaca team would not only NOT beat up on Del Val or Wesley...............they might just get "beat up" themselves, even with the great Joey G........the next D3 player to make the NFL (or so he's telling everybody who will listen........and those who won't)

Ice Bear says first things first. While your belief that Del Val and Wesley would not get smoked by the likes of IC and Hobart may certainly be accurate, Ice believes it is, using the week #1 game as your talking point is not a good one IIBHO. That week one game was a ****ing mess. Both teams looked like absolute ****. They looked like **** to the point where even taking into account it was week #1, many of us who watched the game wondered if Wesley really had fallen off a cliff from where they usually once were as both of their QB's couldn't hit a red ****ing barn with a basketball. We knew Del Val was young and lost a ton but that performance by Wesley was quite shocking.

Ice says now obviously both teams have improved throughout the year however it "seems" to Ice that even some of the Wesley posters question how good this team is. While Ice disagrees that Hobart and IC would beat up Wesley and Del Val he certainly understands the reasoning one may have to make a statement like that (that the two traditionally top notch ER teams may not be their best this season).

As far as Joe G goes...he won't ever play a down in the NFL but there may be other options for him. Ice recalls a pretty damn good QB from Hartwick some years back, Jason Boltus. He spent some time on a CFL roster (and played some Ice believes). From what Ice has seen in person and watching games on video Joe is as good as Jason or pretty darn close.

Also be very careful calling this kid out as an egomaniac. Ice learned this lesson earlier this season. Unless you've heard Joe say those things first hand Ice would recommend going easy. Didn't you call a bunch of us out earlier in the year for referring to a very general transfer situation that we didn't know the specifics of? Also, if Joe does have that attitude and/or belief, while Ice wouldn't like it from a character perspective at all, isn't that what an underdog kid from a D3 school might need to make the next level? Ice would prefer a Joe Callahan approach which seemed super classy, mature, and soft spoken but that certainly doesn't always work when striving for such a huge dream.

[Bartman]

I am hoping that round 2 brings the top 4 teams together.  It will certainly clarify who should be number 1.  I don't think Hobart or Ithaca would beat up on either Del Val or Wesley.  Neither team seems to get beat up on by anyone they play outside of the top 3 or 4 in D3.  Those of us who have been around here long enough know that the top of NJAC, MAC, LL, and E8 are tough outs if you have to play them and usually when the teams play each other the games are extremely competitive.  Union is good this year, if they win this week they will get a chance to prove how good they are against the top seed in the bracket.

The top 6 teams in the East all have a chance to show us how competitive the East really was this year. Wesley has Framingham St, which they should beat  if the good Wesley shows up. If Delaware Valley beats Bridgewater that should quiet some MAC critics. Then we can have a rematch before the sacrifice game to Mount Union. Salisbury is the only one with an easy Week 1 game, Union has to play #20 Case Western which will be no easy out, and Western NE will meet a very tough Brockport Defense which I believe will beat WNE in a low scoring game and move on to play Muhlenberg. The Muhlenberg game will be very interesting to see whether their ranking was justified against either WNE or Brockport in the second round. This Salisbury bracket is very entertaining and competitive,  and I wish Del Val and Wesley were placed in it so we could have had some better comparison clarity between the LL, NJAC, MAC and E8. Mount Union is waiting for the East's best....again.

[UfanBill]

Well Union grab a great receiver from under Salisbury, Wesley, Stevenson, Delaware Valley, etc...nose.

Could it be that that "great receiver" Andre Ross Jr. set his academic sights a little higher? He was valedictorian of his class at National Collegiate Prep in DC.

to quote Ross Jr...
"I chose Union because of the smaller class sizes, which lead to a more personal relationship with professors. The environment of Union is inviting and I needed to step outside of what I was used to."

[Oline89]

I am hoping that round 2 brings the top 4 teams together.  It will certainly clarify who should be number 1.  I don't think Hobart or Ithaca would beat up on either Del Val or Wesley.  Neither team seems to get beat up on by anyone they play outside of the top 3 or 4 in D3.  Those of us who have been around here long enough know that the top of NJAC, MAC, LL, and E8 are tough outs if you have to play them and usually when the teams play each other the games are extremely competitive.  Union is good this year, if they win this week they will get a chance to prove how good they are against the top seed in the bracket.

The top 6 teams in the East all have a chance to show us how competitive the East really was this year. Wesley has Framingham St, which they should beat  if the good Wesley shows up. If Delaware Valley beats Bridgewater that should quiet some MAC critics. Then we can have a rematch before the sacrifice game to Mount Union. Salisbury is the only one with an easy Week 1 game, Union has to play #20 Case Western which will be no easy out, and Western NE will meet a very tough Brockport Defense which I believe will beat WNE in a low scoring game and move on to play Muhlenberg. The Muhlenberg game will be very interesting to see whether their ranking was justified against either WNE or Brockport in the second round. This Salisbury bracket is very entertaining and competitive,  and I wish Del Val and Wesley were placed in it so we could have had some better comparison clarity between the LL, NJAC, MAC and E8. Mount Union is waiting for the East's best....again.

The BPort WNE matchup should be awesome.  There was a rumor that the BPort QB may be injured, if that's the case, the Defense will need to really step it up.  IF QB is healthy, Bport wins going away....

[UfanBill]

Similarly... From the South Region...PAC board...regarding CWRU's outstanding QB Drew Saxton... 

I wonder if Saxton has some sort of injury, as the last few games his passes don't seem to me to his usual zip.

I've been wondering the same thing.  He's been throwing off his back foot a lot and doesn't look as mobile as he did earlier in the season.  He's sure doesn't look like he's 100%.

Injuries, especially this time of the season, can be key. I hope all teams are reasonably healthy.

[Ice Bear]

I am hoping that round 2 brings the top 4 teams together.  It will certainly clarify who should be number 1.  I don't think Hobart or Ithaca would beat up on either Del Val or Wesley.  Neither team seems to get beat up on by anyone they play outside of the top 3 or 4 in D3.  Those of us who have been around here long enough know that the top of NJAC, MAC, LL, and E8 are tough outs if you have to play them and usually when the teams play each other the games are extremely competitive.  Union is good this year, if they win this week they will get a chance to prove how good they are against the top seed in the bracket.

The top 6 teams in the East all have a chance to show us how competitive the East really was this year. Wesley has Framingham St, which they should beat  if the good Wesley shows up. If Delaware Valley beats Bridgewater that should quiet some MAC critics. Then we can have a rematch before the sacrifice game to Mount Union. Salisbury is the only one with an easy Week 1 game, Union has to play #20 Case Western which will be no easy out, and Western NE will meet a very tough Brockport Defense which I believe will beat WNE in a low scoring game and move on to play Muhlenberg. The Muhlenberg game will be very interesting to see whether their ranking was justified against either WNE or Brockport in the second round. This Salisbury bracket is very entertaining and competitive,  and I wish Del Val and Wesley were placed in it so we could have had some better comparison clarity between the LL, NJAC, MAC and E8. Mount Union is waiting for the East's best....again.

The BPort WNE matchup should be awesome.  There was a rumor that the BPort QB may be injured, if that's the case, the Defense will need to really step it up.  IF QB is healthy, Bport wins going away....

Ice has always been impressed with WNE and their athleticism. They will most likely be quite dangerous. Hopefully Brockport can step up and score some points. Ice thinks it's going to be a close game.

[jmcozenlaw]

Well Union grab a great receiver from under Salisbury, Wesley, Stevenson, Delaware Valley, etc...nose.

Could it be that that "great receiver" Andre Ross Jr. set his academic sights a little higher? He was valedictorian of his class at National Collegiate Prep in DC.

to quote Ross Jr...
"I chose Union because of the smaller class sizes, which lead to a more personal relationship with professors. The environment of Union is inviting and I needed to step outside of what I was used to."

Chaneling my inner Ice......................JM thinks that for an aspiring accountant, regardless of the school, a debit is a debit and a credit is a credit. Tiny DelVal (and tiny Lycoming) had higher first time pass rate percentages on the CPA Exam than Pitt, Villanova, Lehigh, Bucknell, Lafayette and a host of others. One was #5 and the other #7 out of the 77 colleges and universities in 2017. One can not challenge one more on debits and credits. Kind of the same thing on a percentage basis of the number of students who get into Med/Vet/Dental school. DelVal has a high percentage of pre-professional science majors who head off to one of those three schools.

JM has never bought the argument about the "settting academic sights a little higher" as JM has hired and fired students from the Ivies, the Patriot League and the NESCAC.............while having had tremendous success with students from schools such as East Stroudsburg, Bloomsburg, Holy Family and other schools that would not meet the "high academic sights" bar.

JM spent time on Wall Street and down in D.C. and some of the most pompous folks I've ever met had the most beautiful resume imaginable.................and it was all down hill from there.

[jmcozenlaw]

I feel like this was an addition to prop up Del Val and Wesley. That addition gives them a combined 2 RR wins. With the lack of respect for the other East conferences getting these 2 seeded as high as possible might have been a priority. How they were the next at-large on the board after Wesley with no RR wins and SOS below both Hobart and Ithaca is beyond me.

We'll never know, but i'm pretty sure Hobart and Ithaca would both beat Stevenson and Western New England by more than 3 TD's. But i'm pretty sure both would beat up on Del Val too, so it is what it is.

If Hobart and Ithaca would "beat up on Del Val", don't leave out Wesley as another team that both would "beat up" on.......since DelVal and Wesley played a 4 overtime game this year. I saw Ithaca crap the bed twice this year. THAT Ithaca team would not only NOT beat up on Del Val or Wesley...............they might just get "beat up" themselves, even with the great Joey G........the next D3 player to make the NFL (or so he's telling everybody who will listen........and those who won't)

Ice Bear says first things first. While your belief that Del Val and Wesley would not get smoked by the likes of IC and Hobart may certainly be accurate, Ice believes it is, using the week #1 game as your talking point is not a good one IIBHO. That week one game was a ****ing mess. Both teams looked like absolute ****. They looked like **** to the point where even taking into account it was week #1, many of us who watched the game wondered if Wesley really had fallen off a cliff from where they usually once were as both of their QB's couldn't hit a red ****ing barn with a basketball. We knew Del Val was young and lost a ton but that performance by Wesley was quite shocking.

Ice says now obviously both teams have improved throughout the year however it "seems" to Ice that even some of the Wesley posters question how good this team is. While Ice disagrees that Hobart and IC would beat up Wesley and Del Val he certainly understands the reasoning one may have to make a statement like that (that the two traditionally top notch ER teams may not be their best this season).

As far as Joe G goes...he won't ever play a down in the NFL but there may be other options for him. Ice recalls a pretty damn good QB from Hartwick some years back, Jason Boltus. He spent some time on a CFL roster (and played some Ice believes). From what Ice has seen in person and watching games on video Joe is as good as Jason or pretty darn close.

Also be very careful calling this kid out as an egomaniac. Ice learned this lesson earlier this season. Unless you've heard Joe say those things first hand Ice would recommend going easy. Didn't you call a bunch of us out earlier in the year for referring to a very general transfer situation that we didn't know the specifics of? Also, if Joe does have that attitude and/or belief, while Ice wouldn't like it from a character perspective at all, isn't that what an underdog kid from a D3 school might need to make the next level? Ice would prefer a Joe Callahan approach which seemed super classy, mature, and soft spoken but that certainly doesn't always work when striving for such a huge dream.

JM would never make any comment about anybody based on third hand information. JM is close with a few of the Brockport parents and is going off of commentary by them (from their kids) and also two coaches. Additionally, JM knows (and coached) two hoops players at IC and they have made a few comments based on what they've heard from their pigskin brethren. JM thinks that JG might just be the nicest and greatest kid in the world. JM has no axe to grind. JM does prefer the Callahan approach (outside of anything ego related as well) and if JG is as good or better than him, he should not lack in chances at some next level. JM wishes the kid well.

[Ice Bear]

Well Union grab a great receiver from under Salisbury, Wesley, Stevenson, Delaware Valley, etc...nose.

Could it be that that "great receiver" Andre Ross Jr. set his academic sights a little higher? He was valedictorian of his class at National Collegiate Prep in DC.

to quote Ross Jr...
"I chose Union because of the smaller class sizes, which lead to a more personal relationship with professors. The environment of Union is inviting and I needed to step outside of what I was used to."

Chaneling my inner Ice......................JM thinks that for an aspiring accountant, regardless of the school, a debit is a debit and a credit is a credit. Tiny DelVal (and tiny Lycoming) had higher first time pass rate percentages on the CPA Exam than Pitt, Villanova, Lehigh, Bucknell, Lafayette and a host of others. One was #5 and the other #7 out of the 77 colleges and universities in 2017. One can not challenge one more on debits and credits. Kind of the same thing on a percentage basis of the number of students who get into Med/Vet/Dental school. DelVal has a high percentage of pre-professional science majors who head off to one of those three schools.

JM has never bought the argument about the "settting academic sights a little higher" as JM has hired and fired students from the Ivies, the Patriot League and the NESCAC.............while having had tremendous success with students from schools such as East Stroudsburg, Bloomsburg, Holy Family and other schools that would not meet the "high academic sights" bar.

JM spent time on Wall Street and down in D.C. and some of the most pompous folks I've ever met had the most beautiful resume imaginable.................and it was all down hill from there.

Ice Bear ****ing loves this...especially as a Doid who may be looked at by some on the Union campus as being one step removed from being a ****ing Neanderthal lol.

A huge +k for the third person talking and over response JM. Great ****.

Ice wishes your Gulls the very best come Saturday...although they may not need it as we may see the Gulls deliver a double Monkey Stomp.

[ITH radio]

Our Rd 1 preview:

https://www.facebook.com/D3Huddle/videos/557477404812310?vh=e&d=n&sfns=mo

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/in-the-d3fb-huddle/id1464734010 (Audio)

[jmcozenlaw]

Well Union grab a great receiver from under Salisbury, Wesley, Stevenson, Delaware Valley, etc...nose.

Could it be that that "great receiver" Andre Ross Jr. set his academic sights a little higher? He was valedictorian of his class at National Collegiate Prep in DC.

to quote Ross Jr...
"I chose Union because of the smaller class sizes, which lead to a more personal relationship with professors. The environment of Union is inviting and I needed to step outside of what I was used to."

Chaneling my inner Ice......................JM thinks that for an aspiring accountant, regardless of the school, a debit is a debit and a credit is a credit. Tiny DelVal (and tiny Lycoming) had higher first time pass rate percentages on the CPA Exam than Pitt, Villanova, Lehigh, Bucknell, Lafayette and a host of others. One was #5 and the other #7 out of the 77 colleges and universities in 2017. One can not challenge one more on debits and credits. Kind of the same thing on a percentage basis of the number of students who get into Med/Vet/Dental school. DelVal has a high percentage of pre-professional science majors who head off to one of those three schools.

JM has never bought the argument about the "settting academic sights a little higher" as JM has hired and fired students from the Ivies, the Patriot League and the NESCAC.............while having had tremendous success with students from schools such as East Stroudsburg, Bloomsburg, Holy Family and other schools that would not meet the "high academic sights" bar.

JM spent time on Wall Street and down in D.C. and some of the most pompous folks I've ever met had the most beautiful resume imaginable.................and it was all down hill from there.

Ice Bear ****ing loves this...especially as a Doid who may be looked at by some on the Union campus as being one step removed from being a ****ing Neanderthal lol.

A huge +k for the third person talking and over response JM. Great ****.

Ice wishes your Gulls the very best come Saturday...although they may not need it as we may see the Gulls deliver a double Monkey Stomp.

JM is very appreciative of the nice comments by Ice Bear. JM thanks you.

[MRMIKESMITH]

Just a reminder, we are holding off on our final votes until end of playoffs.


Key Game(s):

Salisbury (#1) vs. Union (#2), Muhlenberg (S#2) vs. Brockport (#8), Wesley (#3) vs. Delaware Valley (#4)

[Bartman]

Just a reminder, we are holding off on our final votes until end of playoffs.


Key Game(s):

Salisbury (#1) vs. Union (#2), Muhlenberg (S#2) vs. Brockport (#8), Wesley (#3) vs. Delaware Valley (#4)

OK,makes sense,  big week for the LL,NJAC,E8 and the MAC...good luck to all

[MRMIKESMITH]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!