East Region Fan Poll

[pg04]

I think an interesting question is... What will it take for an ECFC team to receive votes in this poll?  Will it need a couple years for a team to establish itself?  I highly doubt one of the teams will make the playoffs this year.  

[Knightstalker]

I think an interesting question is... What will it take for an ECFC team to receive votes in this poll?  Will it need a couple years for a team to establish itself?  I highly doubt one of the teams will make the playoffs this year.  

KS had ECFC once but the doctor have him a cream and it cleared up in about 10 days.

[dlippiel]

Alfred at #2 while TCNJ is off all ballots except one...

I'm not much for comparing scores, but Alfred beat FDU with a TD in the last 27 seconds while TCNJ was up on FDU 48-7 in the first half. That scoring disparity is pretty hard to ignore ... or so I thought.

Pep would have to agree....not sure where the Alfred #1 votes are coming from.     ...but Pep knows who voted for TCNJ!

dlip achknowledges the NY bias and feels he needs to consider that in future polls. dlip does ont think it is a concious bias but a bias none the less.

[Jonny Utah]

Alfred at #2 while TCNJ is off all ballots except one...

I'm not much for comparing scores, but Alfred beat FDU with a TD in the last 27 seconds while TCNJ was up on FDU 48-7 in the first half. That scoring disparity is pretty hard to ignore ... or so I thought.

Pep would have to agree....not sure where the Alfred #1 votes are coming from.     ...but Pep knows who voted for TCNJ!

dlip achknowledges the NY bias and feels he needs to consider that in future polls. dlip does ont think it is a concious bias but a bias none the less.

I might have a NY bias as well, but I also think NJ has not been great the last few years nationally (or regionally).

[AUPepBand]

As for the ECFC, Pep has previously stated his respect for the Husson program. For a new kid on the block, Husson put up a decent fight against Pep's Saxons when they scheduled a home-and-away two-game series. Pep did NOT make the trip to Maine. But Pep is mindful that Husson is serious about (and is) building a top notch football program.

It's early in the season when voters are more apt to cast their ballots based on past success and their knowledge. Historically, Pep is more knowledgeable of the NYS football programs. Nevertheless, Pep attempts to maintain objectivity.

[Jonny Utah]

What may happen with a lot of these newer programs is what happend to Mt. Ida a few years back.  From what I heard, Mt. Ida pressed the admissions office and basically let in anyone and everyone that wanted to play football and filled out the proper paperwork.  Then, in their first year had actually one hell of a football team.  Then in year two, 85 of the 100 freshman football players flunked out of school.

I wouldn't be suprised if you see similar resluts in other schools

[dlippiel]

What may happen with a lot of these newer programs is what happend to Mt. Ida a few years back.  From what I heard, Mt. Ida pressed the admissions office and basically let in anyone and everyone that wanted to play football and filled out the proper paperwork.  Then, in their first year had actually one hell of a football team.  Then in year two, 85 of the 100 freshman football players flunked out of school.

I wouldn't be suprised if you see similar resluts in other schools

WOW

[AUKaz00]

Speaking of rivalries, Alfred has none. Nada. Zilch. Aught. It's a wonder AU can muster a schedule of nine or ten games.

Yeah, it's a shame that RISD doesn't have a football team...

[dlippiel]

I think an interesting question is... What will it take for an ECFC team to receive votes in this poll?  Will it need a couple years for a team to establish itself?  I highly doubt one of the teams will make the playoffs this year.  

dlip thinks it will take a while, maybe a season or more for the ECFC to get in our coconuts. That is unless an ECFC team runs the table, puts up nasty numbers, and seems simply unbeatable compared to the rest of the conference. Husson is on dlips radar though, he's watching.

[lewdogg11]

I think an interesting question is... What will it take for an ECFC team to receive votes in this poll?  Will it need a couple years for a team to establish itself?  I highly doubt one of the teams will make the playoffs this year.  

dlip thinks it will take a while, maybe a season or more for the ECFC to get in our coconuts. That is unless an ECFC team runs the table, puts up nasty numbers, and seems simply unbeatable compared to the rest of the conference. Husson is on dlips radar though, he's watching.

I don't think its a matter of the ECFC having to get on our good side or have us like them.  I think it's a watered down NEFC, and they just don't have the talent at this point.

[union89]

The out of region team was Muhlenberg. 

Overall, I think Ithaca is overrated and Union is underrated.  Somehow, Ithaca lost to Union and didn't drop far at all.  However, Union loses and falls right off the map.  I don't really understand this. 

To a degree I agree....I also think that AGAIN this year pollsters are over-ranking SJF. 

In comparing Fisher to Union, how is a blowout of Buff. St. and a squeaker vs. Rochester that much better than a win over Ithaca and a close loss to Muhlenburg on the road?

['gro]

The out of region team was Muhlenberg. 

Overall, I think Ithaca is overrated and Union is underrated.  Somehow, Ithaca lost to Union and didn't drop far at all.  However, Union loses and falls right off the map.  I don't really understand this. 

To a degree I agree....I also think that AGAIN this year pollsters are over-ranking SJF. 

In comparing Fisher to Union, how is a blowout of Buff. St. and a squeaker vs. Rochester that much better than a win over Ithaca and a close loss to Muhlenburg on the road?

Word. Fisher is like St. John's in the national top 25

yeah I said it.

[union89]

Fair enough.  Obviously five of the ten best teams in the east aren't all in the E8 (not picking a fight here, but this is a stretch even for the most loyal) this year, or probably any year.  Especially when Union beat IC and SJF had to survive UofR who'll be fighting MMA and SLU at the bottom of the LL.  The IC win over Widener was pretty nice bounce back though.

Dont we say this every year?

UR always plays SJF close, hell when SJF went to the Semi's and played MUC tough in 2006 the Courage Bowl SJF was only leading UR 16-10 with 10 minutes left in the 4th QTR...

SJF was ahead by 22 midway through the 3rd quarter this year, they decided to take out their QB and RB then turned the ball over twice to allow UR to get within 8.  Then they put him back in after sitting almost an entire quarter and turn it over again. It was a bit premature and it almost came back to bite them hard in the ass...

If they don't take out their QB until midway through the 4th it's a very decisive win...

Don't punish Fisher for getting blown out by MUC AND don't punish them for struggling against Rochester....can't have it both ways....very funny rationale.

[Pat Coleman]

The out of region team was Muhlenberg. 

Overall, I think Ithaca is overrated and Union is underrated.  Somehow, Ithaca lost to Union and didn't drop far at all.  However, Union loses and falls right off the map.  I don't really understand this. 

To a degree I agree....I also think that AGAIN this year pollsters are over-ranking SJF. 

In comparing Fisher to Union, how is a blowout of Buff. St. and a squeaker vs. Rochester that much better than a win over Ithaca and a close loss to Muhlenburg on the road?

Word. Fisher is like St. John's in the national top 25

yeah I said it.

I hear ya, and I've seen St. John's play this year and they're pretty decent. But in the absence of teams that are awesome other than the usual three, who belongs up there?

There seems to be a gigantic gap between the top three and everyone else. We run out of awesome teams very quickly. But someone has to be No. 4 ... and down through about No. 11 or 12.

[lewdogg11]

The out of region team was Muhlenberg. 

Overall, I think Ithaca is overrated and Union is underrated.  Somehow, Ithaca lost to Union and didn't drop far at all.  However, Union loses and falls right off the map.  I don't really understand this. 

To a degree I agree....I also think that AGAIN this year pollsters are over-ranking SJF. 

In comparing Fisher to Union, how is a blowout of Buff. St. and a squeaker vs. Rochester that much better than a win over Ithaca and a close loss to Muhlenburg on the road?

Word. Fisher is like St. John's in the national top 25

yeah I said it.

I hear ya, and I've seen St. John's play this year and they're pretty decent. But in the absence of teams that are awesome other than the usual three, who belongs up there?

There seems to be a gigantic gap between the top three and everyone else. We run out of awesome teams very quickly. But someone has to be No. 4 ... and down through about No. 11 or 12.

Speaking of Top 25, I understand people not wanting to cast a vote for RPI after last week's sneak by a traditionally poor team, who had put up 60+ 2 weeks in a row...but...

Hobart - Smoked by Dickinson...Hobart - 18 votes
Union - Beat up by Muhlenburg - 15 votes (while Muhlenburg(2-point loss to Wilkes) gets 3 votes)
SJF lays down and gets mopped by Mt. Union then squeezes by Rochester(0-2)...11 votes

What have you done for me lately?