East Region Fan Poll

[labart96]

Same here.  My ballot is virtually all NJAC and MAC teams. 

[dlippiel]

If Wilkes is 1a (or b or c) on your ballot, then you should keep an eye on Leb Val and Albright.  Both are undefeated, albeit against less impressive foes.  And both play big games this week - Wilkes at Albright, Leb Val hosting Del Val.

I've got at least 3 MAC teams on my ballot...

Maybe 4, I can't remember off the top of my head...

dlip is with ya. He has 4 MAC teams, 3 NJAC, 2 LL, and 1 E8. dlip never anticipated this much movement in ERP but is trying to role with it and be somewhat consistent and accurate. To dlip, no question, MAC and NJAC conferences deserve top billing in the East as of week #4.

[lewdogg11]

I have 3 E8, 3 MAC, 3 NJAC, and 1 LL.  Brutal.

[dlippiel]

I have 3 E8, 3 MAC, 3 NJAC, and 1 LL.  Brutal.

Dr. our LLPPFFL match-up is turning out to be closer than a bye week  ! Granted another L for Dr. Rosen..... but with his **** ass team he'll take close games here in 09. Maybe in 10 his head will be out of his ass during the draft! Looking at his line-up he was feeling Flacco and sat Manning ****! Those 12 extra points could have helped. ****ing 4TDs and dlip sits him. Figures....

[lewdogg11]

I have 3 E8, 3 MAC, 3 NJAC, and 1 LL.  Brutal.

Dr. our LLPPFFL match-up is turning out to be closer than a bye week  ! Granted another L for Dr. Rosen..... but with his **** ass team he'll take close games here in 09. Maybe in 10 his head will be out of his ass during the draft! Looking at his line-up he was feeling Flacco and sat Manning ****! Those 12 extra points could have helped. ****ing 4TDs and dlip sits him. Figures....

I'm expecting 25-30 out of Felix tonight, so it won't look so close by morning.  :-)

[Jonny Utah]

And who has Ithaca played?

Wittenberg in '79

Central in '88

and Dayton in '91

Who have the played this millennium?

Curry '08
Union '05
RPI '03
Rowan '01

Odd how someone as detail-oriented as an engineer would overlook that RPI's 2001 home-playoff game as the East Region's #1 seed...

Not overlooked, just simply showing that Ithaca is not superhuman, yet somehow their reputation always proceeds them.

I'm not taking anything away from the Ithaca program at all.  Just pointing out how they are one of many teams that get more recognition based on their past rather than their current situation.

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

['gro]

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

Really? Cortland game aside (they are going to play each year) St. Lawrence and Frostburg aren't top notch competition. Union and Widener are meh. And they lost to Union.

[Jonny Utah]

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

Really? Cortland game aside (they are going to play each year) St. Lawrence and Frostburg aren't top notch competition. Union and Widener are meh. And they lost to Union.

Yea but I think RPI specifically looks for weak teams to play.  Ithaca simply plays teams that are close or have an open date.  Widener and Union are historically good programs.  Ithaca has also filled these nonleague games with good NJAC schools, decent d2 schools, and other random mac teams (wilkes, kings, Lycoming)

[union89]

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

Really? Cortland game aside (they are going to play each year) St. Lawrence and Frostburg aren't top notch competition. Union and Widener are meh. And they lost to Union.

meh??  meh??  Come on 'Gro.....hopefully that's tongue in cheek.

['gro]

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

Really? Cortland game aside (they are going to play each year) St. Lawrence and Frostburg aren't top notch competition. Union and Widener are meh. And they lost to Union.

meh??  meh??  Come on 'Gro.....hopefully that's tongue in cheek.

Did I st-stutter?

M-E-H!!

[dlippiel]

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

Really? Cortland game aside (they are going to play each year) St. Lawrence and Frostburg aren't top notch competition. Union and Widener are meh. And they lost to Union.

meh??  meh??  Come on 'Gro.....hopefully that's tongue in cheek.

Did I st-stutter?

M-E-H!!

Here we ****in go!

[union89]

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

Really? Cortland game aside (they are going to play each year) St. Lawrence and Frostburg aren't top notch competition. Union and Widener are meh. And they lost to Union.

'Gro,
Do you have an actual point here, or did you light your own personal drinking lamp at 2:22:44pm on a Monday??

Are you actually comparing RPI's OOC schedule to Ithaca's over the past few years??  I have not been one to come on here and bash RPI's scheduling practices, but what in the Wide, Wide World of Sports are you talking about??

[lewdogg11]

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

Really? Cortland game aside (they are going to play each year) St. Lawrence and Frostburg aren't top notch competition. Union and Widener are meh. And they lost to Union.

'Gro,
Do you have an actual point here, or did you light your own personal drinking lamp at 2:22:44pm on a Monday??

Are you actually comparing RPI's OOC schedule to Ithaca's over the past few years??  I have not been one to come on here and bash RPI's scheduling practices, but what in the Wide, Wide World of Sports are you talking about??

I think it's pretty simple science.  Union ****in blows.

[union89]

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

Really? Cortland game aside (they are going to play each year) St. Lawrence and Frostburg aren't top notch competition. Union and Widener are meh. And they lost to Union.

'Gro,
Do you have an actual point here, or did you light your own personal drinking lamp at 2:22:44pm on a Monday??

Are you actually comparing RPI's OOC schedule to Ithaca's over the past few years??  I have not been one to come on here and bash RPI's scheduling practices, but what in the Wide, Wide World of Sports are you talking about??

I think it's pretty simple science.  Union ****in blows.

I understand that part.....but this is really between Ithaca and RPI....

[lewdogg11]

I think some people might have a bias against RPI because they seem to go out of their way to play a weak non league schedule.  Ithaca does not do that and I think people give them an edge in the early polls because of that.  And again, early polls dont mean much.

Really? Cortland game aside (they are going to play each year) St. Lawrence and Frostburg aren't top notch competition. Union and Widener are meh. And they lost to Union.

'Gro,
Do you have an actual point here, or did you light your own personal drinking lamp at 2:22:44pm on a Monday??

Are you actually comparing RPI's OOC schedule to Ithaca's over the past few years??  I have not been one to come on here and bash RPI's scheduling practices, but what in the Wide, Wide World of Sports are you talking about??

I think it's pretty simple science.  Union ****in blows.

I understand that part.....but this is really between Ithaca and RPI....

What do we know about both teams?  Ithaca beat up on St. Lawrence which everyone expects then loses to Union.  Union was supposed to be so-so, but now we think they are good...and they lose to Muhlenburg(1-2) who we think is really strong, but then who gets killed by Gettysburg(1-3).  Ithaca then goes and beats Widener(2-1), who was really good in 2001 and 2002, but struggled to beat Curry, who also looks dookie...

RPI shuts out Endicott as expected.  Sneaks by Utica, and beats a previously undefeated WPI.

So, that brings us to the common opponent theory...Utica...RPI beats Utica by 3...the masses say 'RPI sucks, they only beat them by 3'.  Then Ithaca wins by the same margin, and it turns into 'Utica must be much improved'.  

Pour me that blue kool-aid.