East Region Fan Poll

[theoriginalupstate]

No love for the Profs JU?

[maxpower]

If only we had the resources in here for something like this:

http://cbs4denver.com/local/reilly.dome.lick.2.1232210.html

[NJACRules]

Kean didn't really beat Cortland, in other words.  Did Kean really beat Trenton St. TCNJ?

Kean did beat Cortland, but they beat Cortland without their best ****in player. That means something and should be accounted for regarding a teams actual strength vs their strength without their star player. Maybe dlip took it into consideration too much, point taken, but it deserved consideration none the less. And if one feels a team is at the same strength when they are playing without their star player than they are not dipping both ****in oars into the water when trying to paddle up stream. Hence if one were to say Rochester is clearly a better overall team than RPI without Herman, dlip would agree because that was taken care of on the field. Yet, if you came to dlip and said Rochester would have still won even if RPI had Herman, one could disagree, because they haven't beaten RPI when Herman (a 3 time LL rookie of the week) was playing. So dlip feels injuries and missing players must be accounted for, especially when those players are returning to the line-up that same year.

I was at the Rowan Cortland State Game and Pitcher was the difference in that game.  Cortland State kept getting into 3rd and long situations and Pitcher kept making plays to get the first down.  He is a terrific player and he will be missed by Cortland.  Pitcher not playing in the Kean game had to have made a big difference in the outcome of that game.  By pointing this out I am not taking anything away from Kean's win.  What I would like to point out is that Rowan played Cortland without their starting Quarterback and that also made a huge difference in that game.  If Rowan's QB had played in that game the result would have been different.

[union89]

Kean didn't really beat Cortland, in other words.  Did Kean really beat Trenton St. TCNJ?

Kean did beat Cortland, but they beat Cortland without their best ****in player. That means something and should be accounted for regarding a teams actual strength vs their strength without their star player. Maybe dlip took it into consideration too much, point taken, but it deserved consideration none the less. And if one feels a team is at the same strength when they are playing without their star player than they are not dipping both ****in oars into the water when trying to paddle up stream. Hence if one were to say Rochester is clearly a better overall team than RPI without Herman, dlip would agree because that was taken care of on the field. Yet, if you came to dlip and said Rochester would have still won even if RPI had Herman, one could disagree, because they haven't beaten RPI when Herman (a 3 time LL rookie of the week) was playing. So dlip feels injuries and missing players must be accounted for, especially when those players are returning to the line-up that same year.

I was at the Rowan Cortland State Game and Pitcher was the difference in that game.  Cortland State kept getting into 3rd and long situations and Pitcher kept making plays to get the first down.  He is a terrific player and he will be missed by Cortland.  Pitcher not playing in the Kean game had to have made a big difference in the outcome of that game.  By pointing this out I am not taking anything away from Kean's win.  What I would like to point out is that Rowan played Cortland without their starting Quarterback and that also made a huge difference in that game.  If Rowan's QB had played in that game the result would have been different.

Not trying to be argumentative here but, Union lost 5......FIVE starters in the Muhlenburg game......3 possibly for the season, the other 2 for multiple weeks.  If Union loses a game they should drop with no regard for the injured.....the team needs to overcome.

This is 11 man football...........not tennis or golf......damn it, this argument is silly.

[union89]

Florida losses this week to LSU without Tebow............do they drop??

Hell yes they drop....and they should.

['gro]

Florida losses this week to LSU without Tebow............do they drop??

Hell yes they drop....and they should.

what's a tebow?

[NJACRules]

Kean didn't really beat Cortland, in other words.  Did Kean really beat Trenton St. TCNJ?

Kean did beat Cortland, but they beat Cortland without their best ****in player. That means something and should be accounted for regarding a teams actual strength vs their strength without their star player. Maybe dlip took it into consideration too much, point taken, but it deserved consideration none the less. And if one feels a team is at the same strength when they are playing without their star player than they are not dipping both ****in oars into the water when trying to paddle up stream. Hence if one were to say Rochester is clearly a better overall team than RPI without Herman, dlip would agree because that was taken care of on the field. Yet, if you came to dlip and said Rochester would have still won even if RPI had Herman, one could disagree, because they haven't beaten RPI when Herman (a 3 time LL rookie of the week) was playing. So dlip feels injuries and missing players must be accounted for, especially when those players are returning to the line-up that same year.

I was at the Rowan Cortland State Game and Pitcher was the difference in that game.  Cortland State kept getting into 3rd and long situations and Pitcher kept making plays to get the first down.  He is a terrific player and he will be missed by Cortland.  Pitcher not playing in the Kean game had to have made a big difference in the outcome of that game.  By pointing this out I am not taking anything away from Kean's win.  What I would like to point out is that Rowan played Cortland without their starting Quarterback and that also made a huge difference in that game.  If Rowan's QB had played in that game the result would have been different.

Not trying to be argumentative here but, Union lost 5......FIVE starters in the Muhlenburg game......3 possibly for the season, the other 2 for multiple weeks.  If Union loses a game they should drop with no regard for the injured.....the team needs to overcome.

This is 11 man football...........not tennis or golf......damn it, this argument is silly.

Damn right the argument is silly.  But if you are going to make that argument be fair about it.  Do not take away from Kean's win because Cortland's quarterback did not play while not recognizing that Cortland's win came against a Rowan team without their quarterback.

[AUPepBand]

Not trying to be argumentative here but, Union lost 5......FIVE starters in the Muhlenburg game......3 possibly for the season, the other 2 for multiple weeks.  If Union loses a game they should drop with no regard for the injured.....the team needs to overcome.

This is 11 man football...........not tennis or golf......damn it, this argument is silly.

Agreed. Pep would guess that most all D3 college football programs face adversities, be it injuries, illness, academic dismissals, etc. These adversities test the strength of the PROGRAM. I.e., are successful teams talented beyond the starters? Good programs have solid talented back-ups ready to play when a starter goes down. And it happens. If their talent is only skin deep, when injuries occur, it becomes apparent.

[Jonny Utah]

Florida losses this week to LSU without Tebow............do they drop??

Hell yes they drop....and they should.

what's a tebow?

Sometimes its not the question on whether or not a team should drop in the rankings if a key player is injured, but it is how you might rank them once that player comes back at the end of the season.  For instance, what if Florida loses to LSU 14-10 without Tebow.  Then runs the table and goes 11-1 and blows out everyone else while LSU goes 11-1 and squeaks by all the teams Florida blows out, and loses to a team that Florida blows out.  Then you might rank Florida over LSU at the end of the season, since Florida is a better team with Tebow than without him.

Its science.

[Knightstalker]

Florida losses this week to LSU without Tebow............do they drop??

Hell yes they drop....and they should.

what's a tebow?

Sometimes its not the question on whether or not a team should drop in the rankings if a key player is injured, but it is how you might rank them once that player comes back at the end of the season.  For instance, what if Florida loses to LSU 14-10 without Tebow.  Then runs the table and goes 11-1 and blows out everyone else while LSU goes 11-1 and squeaks by all the teams Florida blows out, and loses to a team that Florida blows out.  Then you might rank Florida over LSU at the end of the season, since Florida is a better team with Tebow than without him.

Its science.

Say South Carolina beats the Florida Gators, does SC then jump higher than Florida due to the head to head matchup or does Florida drop but still remain ranked higher?  I may have Cortland ahead of Kean but Cortland was my 1 at the time, they dropped down and have since moved back up.  I don't think Kean is a better team at this time, they need to prove themselves.  Couple of more good wins against top NJAC teams and they will have proven themselves.

[Jonny Utah]

Florida losses this week to LSU without Tebow............do they drop??

Hell yes they drop....and they should.

what's a tebow?

Sometimes its not the question on whether or not a team should drop in the rankings if a key player is injured, but it is how you might rank them once that player comes back at the end of the season.  For instance, what if Florida loses to LSU 14-10 without Tebow.  Then runs the table and goes 11-1 and blows out everyone else while LSU goes 11-1 and squeaks by all the teams Florida blows out, and loses to a team that Florida blows out.  Then you might rank Florida over LSU at the end of the season, since Florida is a better team with Tebow than without him.

Its science.

Say South Carolina beats the Florida Gators, does SC then jump higher than Florida due to the head to head matchup or does Florida drop but still remain ranked higher?  I may have Cortland ahead of Kean but Cortland was my 1 at the time, they dropped down and have since moved back up.  I don't think Kean is a better team at this time, they need to prove themselves.  Couple of more good wins against top NJAC teams and they will have proven themselves.

Yea good point, although I think Cortland needs to prove themselves as well.  I think Kean beating those other NJAC teams and only losing to Del Val shows me that they deserve a higher ranking than Cortland.

[Knightstalker]

Florida losses this week to LSU without Tebow............do they drop??

Hell yes they drop....and they should.

what's a tebow?

Sometimes its not the question on whether or not a team should drop in the rankings if a key player is injured, but it is how you might rank them once that player comes back at the end of the season.  For instance, what if Florida loses to LSU 14-10 without Tebow.  Then runs the table and goes 11-1 and blows out everyone else while LSU goes 11-1 and squeaks by all the teams Florida blows out, and loses to a team that Florida blows out.  Then you might rank Florida over LSU at the end of the season, since Florida is a better team with Tebow than without him.

Its science.

Say South Carolina beats the Florida Gators, does SC then jump higher than Florida due to the head to head matchup or does Florida drop but still remain ranked higher?  I may have Cortland ahead of Kean but Cortland was my 1 at the time, they dropped down and have since moved back up.  I don't think Kean is a better team at this time, they need to prove themselves.  Couple of more good wins against top NJAC teams and they will have proven themselves.

Yea good point, although I think Cortland needs to prove themselves as well.  I think Kean beating those other NJAC teams and only losing to Del Val shows me that they deserve a higher ranking than Cortland.

Part of it is historical with me also, I have seen Kean start hot and then choke on the big ones so I am a little skeptical.  Cortland has proven the last few years to be a strong team in the NJAC and are the defending champs and are also playing well.  It is almost halfway through the season and the East is still a mess with the exception of the top couple of teams, but then Alfred still has the tough part of their schedule to come.

['gro]

Florida losses this week to LSU without Tebow............do they drop??

Hell yes they drop....and they should.

what's a tebow?

Sometimes its not the question on whether or not a team should drop in the rankings if a key player is injured, but it is how you might rank them once that player comes back at the end of the season.  For instance, what if Florida loses to LSU 14-10 without Tebow.  Then runs the table and goes 11-1 and blows out everyone else while LSU goes 11-1 and squeaks by all the teams Florida blows out, and loses to a team that Florida blows out.  Then you might rank Florida over LSU at the end of the season, since Florida is a better team with Tebow than without him.

Its science.

no seriously, who is this tebow character you speak of? Never heard of him.

[Knightstalker]

Florida losses this week to LSU without Tebow............do they drop??

Hell yes they drop....and they should.

what's a tebow?

Sometimes its not the question on whether or not a team should drop in the rankings if a key player is injured, but it is how you might rank them once that player comes back at the end of the season.  For instance, what if Florida loses to LSU 14-10 without Tebow.  Then runs the table and goes 11-1 and blows out everyone else while LSU goes 11-1 and squeaks by all the teams Florida blows out, and loses to a team that Florida blows out.  Then you might rank Florida over LSU at the end of the season, since Florida is a better team with Tebow than without him.

Its science.

no seriously, who is this tebow character you speak of? Never heard of him.

Tebow is the last As Seen on TV product that Billy Mays promoted.  It is used to help hold fat guys up while giving Tebags.

[PBR...]

Florida losses this week to LSU without Tebow............do they drop??

Hell yes they drop....and they should.

what's a tebow?

Sometimes its not the question on whether or not a team should drop in the rankings if a key player is injured, but it is how you might rank them once that player comes back at the end of the season.  For instance, what if Florida loses to LSU 14-10 without Tebow.  Then runs the table and goes 11-1 and blows out everyone else while LSU goes 11-1 and squeaks by all the teams Florida blows out, and loses to a team that Florida blows out.  Then you might rank Florida over LSU at the end of the season, since Florida is a better team with Tebow than without him.

Its science.

no seriously, who is this tebow character you speak of? Never heard of him.

well according to espn "tim tebow is able to walk on water and part the red sea..."  espn now reporting he is working on something called the big bang...

seriously can espn do any more to promote tebow? its almost like tebow has pictures of them all w/ farm animals...