East Region Fan Poll

[union89]

I know nobody is saying it cuz they dont want to be 'that' guy, but I have always been that guy so here goes...

After reading your recent posts, I realize that you are in fact "that" guy, only it's not the guy you think.....

Wow, you have acclimated yourself very quickly and very well to PP.  I am impressed.

[Knightstalker]

Really...the only team in the East that has had success on a national stage in the past 4 years would be the ONE team from the East that would prove its irrelevance.....Really?  Maybe AU as our number 1 shows how weak the East has become....dont you think that is more accurate?

I would argue that no East Region team has had success on the national stage, but I believe the national stage to be the national semis and finals and by that logic no East team has been successful at that level this decade.  Plus, how does the 2006 Fisher team carry any relevance to 2009?

Alfred hasn't lost two out of region games this year, so the direct comparison to the North and the South aren't as easy with them.  Is Alfred an elite team, probably not, but time will tell.  However, if a team which has lost to teams from the North and South finishs top of the region, that certainly bodes poorly for the region as opposed to another team finishing atop by beating the first one and providing a certain degree of counterbalance for the region.  In this thread, most readers are rooting for the latter regardless of who that team is.  I hope that Alfred can develop into and perform like that second team, but I'm going to enjoy the remaining games regardless of the end result (more so if the Saxons win, obviously).

I was basically going with the teams getting as far as SJF which Rowan has done 3 times this decade and RPI has done once.  Of course we will never really know how successful Rowan would have been in 01 if not for a clock operator.

[JT]

Really...the only team in the East that has had success on a national stage in the past 4 years would be the ONE team from the East that would prove its irrelevance.....Really?  Maybe AU as our number 1 shows how weak the East has become....dont you think that is more accurate?

I would argue that no East Region team has had success on the national stage, but I believe the national stage to be the national semis and finals and by that logic no East team has been successful at that level this decade.  Plus, how does the 2006 Fisher team carry any relevance to 2009?

Alfred hasn't lost two out of region games this year, so the direct comparison to the North and the South aren't as easy with them.  Is Alfred an elite team, probably not, but time will tell.  However, if a team which has lost to teams from the North and South finishs top of the region, that certainly bodes poorly for the region as opposed to another team finishing atop by beating the first one and providing a certain degree of counterbalance for the region.  In this thread, most readers are rooting for the latter regardless of who that team is.  I hope that Alfred can develop into and perform like that second team, but I'm going to enjoy the remaining games regardless of the end result (more so if the Saxons win, obviously).

I was basically going with the teams getting as far as SJF which Rowan has done 3 times this decade and RPI has done once.  Of course we will never really know how successful Rowan would have been in 01 if not for a clock operator.

Or had Orihel not shattered his wrist at Cortland in 2005.  Lost 19-7 to MUC with a weak armed backup.

[SJFF82]

82... are you beginning to think that maybe I'm just a figment of your imagination?

Maybe....I am actually starting wonder if I am crazy, because everytime I read a reply that is clearly non-responsive to my post, like  "AU is not #1"   and the reply is "Well Fisher is not an elite team like you say because IC wasnt really that good as the #20 team in the country"   I feel like RedSwarm81 like my head is going to explode.

82,
 If you're going to take the time to go through my post and bold phrases, how about these two which address your post thesis:

Pep and I have both thought that Alfred is a top 40 team this year and they way they've played thus far has reinforced that opinion.  Are they the best team in the East?  Probably not, but they haven't done anything outside of sleepwalk through the third quarter in Madison and need to squeak by FDU to prove otherwise.  Alfred could certainly lose 3 of their remaining games a la 2007, so the jury is still out of the 2009 Saxons.

And

And if Fisher with their 2 bad out of region loses is the best team in the East, which is quite possible and is hard to dispute with their 3-0 in region record, then the East looks REALLY weak.

Nowhere in there did I say that Fisher couldn't or shouldn't be the best team in the East, but rather that a large portion of the East Region fans hope they aren't for the ramifications that would ensue (ie further proof of East Region irrelevance nationally).

Really...the only team in the East that has had success on a national stage in the past 4 years would be the ONE team from the East that would prove its irrelevance.....Really?  Maybe AU as our number 1 shows how weak the East has become....dont you think that is more accurate?

I don't think only one East team has had success on the national stage the last 5 years.  How can one team have success on the national stage for the last four years when they have only made the playoffs two of those years?

Again...dont let the facts get in the way of a good argument....seems to be a common problem these days on the boards.  

I said 4 years, not 5 and you go back like 6 or more.  06, 07, 08, 09...that's 4.

I didnt say "for the past 4 years"  I simply said they were the only team that had success in the past 4 years...meaning success even once in the past 4 years.  This of course was all in response to AUKazoo stating that every pollster in the East is rooting for Fisher to fail because they would be an embarrassment as the East's rep.

My responses seem to become an open springboard for everyone's disconnected arguments.

[SJFF82]

Really...the only team in the East that has had success on a national stage in the past 4 years would be the ONE team from the East that would prove its irrelevance.....Really?  Maybe AU as our number 1 shows how weak the East has become....dont you think that is more accurate?

I would argue that no East Region team has had success on the national stage, but I believe the national stage to be the national semis and finals and by that logic no East team has been successful at that level this decade.  Plus, how does the 2006 Fisher team carry any relevance to 2009?

Alfred hasn't lost two out of region games this year, so the direct comparison to the North and the South aren't as easy with them.  Is Alfred an elite team, probably not, but time will tell.  However, if a team which has lost to teams from the North and South finishs top of the region, that certainly bodes poorly for the region as opposed to another team finishing atop by beating the first one and providing a certain degree of counterbalance for the region.  In this thread, most readers are rooting for the latter regardless of who that team is.  I hope that Alfred can develop into and perform like that second team, but I'm going to enjoy the remaining games regardless of the end result (more so if the Saxons win, obviously).

It doesnt...I didnt say it did.  I just didnt understand why you thought that SJF would be a poor East rep THIS year if they in fact win out an beat everyone they can when they are in fact the best the East has offered in the past FOUR 4 years

[SJFF82]

How can one team have success on the national stage for the last four years when they have only made the playoffs two of those years?

Depends on how you define "success."

If you go solely by the opinion of guys that played on a club team that had all their wins stripped, then Fisher is the only team with national success...ever.

your petty, factually incorrect as usual and I knew couldnt keep your inaccurate 2 cents out of this debate forever.  Yes Fisher monkeystomped you AGAIN, and no amount of waffling by you can cover your disappointment at Fisher's success.

[pg04]

Looks like 82 has been chased away.  I'm not sure if he wasn't unfairly being piled on...

[JQV]

your petty

Woohoo!  I'm the king baby:

 

In these parts, that's better than being the Governor!*

*Governor of South Carolina excluded.  He seems to have a pretty fun gig!

[fisheralum91]

82 has been  regulated to guest?
wha happen 82?

[pg04]

82 has been  regulated to guest?
wha happen 82?

I think he quit because people were unanimously disagreeing with everything he said.

[JQV]

I think he quit because people were unanimously disagreeing with everything he said.

That can't be it.  After all, you're still here!

I kid, I kid.

[pg04]

I think he quit because people were unanimously disagreeing with everything he said.

That can't be it.  After all, you're still here!

I kid, I kid.

Yep, still here.  I'm sure I've ruffled a few feathers, especially when I was actually in school --  However, it's still fun to post on and can't let a few days of disagreements completely steer you from the board.

[pg04]

I think he quit because people were unanimously disagreeing with everything he said.

That can't be it.  After all, you're still here!

I kid, I kid.

Or he could be waiting to appear under some other name and build up Fisher...  Of course then he'd probably be caught by Pat. 

[AUPepBand]

I think he quit because people were unanimously disagreeing with everything he said.

That can't be it.  After all, you're still here!

I kid, I kid.

Or he could be waiting to appear under some other name and build up Fisher...  Of course then he'd probably be caught by Pat. 

Any progress on that poll, pg? Pep's got a press deadline looming tomorrow.

[pg04]

I think he quit because people were unanimously disagreeing with everything he said.

That can't be it.  After all, you're still here!

I kid, I kid.

Or he could be waiting to appear under some other name and build up Fisher...  Of course then he'd probably be caught by Pat. 

Any progress on that poll, pg? Pep's got a press deadline looming tomorrow.

There's one person who is out of town, but said they'd send it tonight.  I will probably post tonight without all the fancy formatting, but with the same data.