East Region Fan Poll

[dlippiel]

Seeing how a previous post of mine has been removed (understandably so), dlip will remake his point in an appropriate way. The East has not had a serious national contender in a long time. What is the reason for this? Are we that far away or closer than we think? Looking at the polls (just as a piece of the puzzle)  Ithaca and Cortland were in the top 10 nationally and now they are not even or should not even be in the top ten regionally. To dlip it's obvious they were WAY overated to begin with and did not belong with the company they were being put with. Seriously looking at this dlip wonders why is the East not able to field that team/teams that can compete for the National Championship? Obviously you have Mount and UWW as the exceptions way on top but with parity seemingly growing here in the east why is it not growing nationally? Just some thoughts and questions. Questions that we should maybe ask ourselves and look into. dlip really never looks to far out of the East region knowing that East Region teams aren't very relevant when it comes to the big picture. *Pat dlip will keep the obscene references out in the future  .

[union89]

Seeing how a previous post of mine has been removed (understandably so), dlip will remake his point in an appropriate way. The East has not had a serious national contender in a long time. What is the reason for this? Are we that far away or closer than we think? Looking at the polls (just as a piece of the puzzle)  Ithaca and Cortland were in the top 10 nationally and now they are not even or should not even be in the top ten regionally. To dlip it's obvious they were WAY overated to begin with and did not belong with the company they were being put with. Seriously looking at this dlip wonders why is the East not able to field that team/teams that can compete for the National Championship? Obviously you have Mount and UWW as the exceptions way on top but with parity seemingly growing here in the east why is it not growing nationally? Just some thoughts and questions. Questions that we should maybe ask ourselves and look into. dlip really never looks to far out of the East region knowing that East Region teams aren't very relevant when it comes to the big picture. *Pat dlip will keep the obscene references out in the future  .

Ha, your quote being embedded in mine caused mine to be removed as well.  

Damn you Dlip!!!  

[Ralph Turner]

Week 6 Fan Poll (Not as nicely formatted as usual, but hey it's late and gets the point across):

Team	Record	Last Rating....	Next Week
1    Alfred ( 8 )	5-0	1	Open Date
2   Albright ( 2 )	5-0	3	at Lycoming
3   Delaware Valley	4-1	2	vs. Wilkes
4   Kean	4-1	5	at Brockport State
5   Rowan	4-1	7	at Morrisville State
6   St. John Fisher	3-2	NR	vs. Utica
7   Union	4-1	8	at St. Lawrence
8   Lebanon Valley	4-1	NR	at FDU-Florham
9   Springfield	4-1	NR	at Mount Ida
10  TCNJ	4-1	NR	at William Paterson

            
Dropped Out:            
#4 Ithaca            
#6 Cortland State            
#9 Wilkes            
#10 RPI            
            
Voting Distribution:            
Alfred (1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,)            
Albright (2,5,2,2,3,1,2,1,3,4,)            
Delaware Valley (5,2,3,4,4,2,3,4,2,5,)            
Kean (4,4,4,6,5,4,4,3,4,2,)            
Rowan (3,3,10,3,2,5,5,NR,6,3,)            
St. John Fisher (6,8,5,7,6,8,8,6,8,7,)            
Union (7,6,6,5,10,9,6,5,5,NR,)            
Lebanon Valley (8,7,NR,8,9,10,7,8,7,9,)            
Springfield (9,NR,7,10,8,6,10,NR,NR,NR,)            
TCNJ (NR,NR,NR,NR,7,7,NR,9,NR,8,)            
Montclair State (10,NR,8,NR,NR,NR,9,7,9,NR,)            
RPI (NR,10,9,9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,6,)            
Ithaca (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,10,)            
Cortland State (NR,9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,)            
Plymouth State (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR,NR,)            

Okay, what did you change?       

[Ralph Turner]

Week 6 Fan Poll (Not as nicely formatted as usual, but hey it's late and gets the point across):

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating....	Next Week
1    Alfred ( 8 )	5-0	97	1	Open Date
2   Albright ( 2 )	5-0	85	3	at Lycoming
3   Delaware Valley	4-1	76	2	vs. Wilkes
4   Kean	4-1	70	5	at Brockport State
5   Rowan	4-1	59	7	at Morrisville State
6   St. John Fisher	3-2	41	NR	vs. Utica
7   Union	4-1	8	40	at St. Lawrence
8   Lebanon Valley	4-1	26	NR	at FDU-Florham
9   Springfield	4-1	16	NR	at Mount Ida
10  TCNJ	4-1	13	NR	at William Paterson

            
Dropped Out:            
#4 Ithaca            
#6 Cortland State            
#9 Wilkes            
#10 RPI            
            
Voting Distribution:            
Alfred (1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,)            
Albright (2,5,2,2,3,1,2,1,3,4,)            
Delaware Valley (5,2,3,4,4,2,3,4,2,5,)            
Kean (4,4,4,6,5,4,4,3,4,2,)            
Rowan (3,3,10,3,2,5,5,NR,6,3,)            
St. John Fisher (6,8,5,7,6,8,8,6,8,7,)            
Union (7,6,6,5,10,9,6,5,5,NR,)            
Lebanon Valley (8,7,NR,8,9,10,7,8,7,9,)            
Springfield (9,NR,7,10,8,6,10,NR,NR,NR,)            
TCNJ (NR,NR,NR,NR,7,7,NR,9,NR,8,)            
Montclair State (10,NR,8,NR,NR,NR,9,7,9,NR,)            
RPI (NR,10,9,9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,6,)            
Ithaca (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,10,)            
Cortland State (NR,9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,)            
Plymouth State (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR,NR,)            

Okay, what did you change?       

[pg04]

Week 6 Fan Poll (I'm going to take the quotes off of Ralph's Post --- Thanks Ralph!!):

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating....	Next Week
1    Alfred ( 8 )	5-0	97	1	Open Date
2   Albright ( 2 )	5-0	85	3	at Lycoming
3   Delaware Valley	4-1	76	2	vs. Wilkes
4   Kean	4-1	70	5	at Brockport State
5   Rowan	4-1	59	7	at Morrisville State
6   St. John Fisher	3-2	41	NR	vs. Utica
7   Union	4-1	40	8	at St. Lawrence
8   Lebanon Valley	4-1	26	NR	at FDU-Florham
9   Springfield	4-1	16	NR	at Mount Ida
10  TCNJ	4-1	13	NR	at William Paterson

            
Dropped Out:            
#4 Ithaca            
#6 Cortland State            
#9 Wilkes            
#10 RPI      

Also Receiving votes:               
Montclair State   12           
RPI   10           
Ithaca   2           
Cortland State   2           
Plymouth State   1           
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            
Alfred (1,1,1,1,1,3,1,2,1,1,)            
Albright (2,5,2,2,3,1,2,1,3,4,)            
Delaware Valley (5,2,3,4,4,2,3,4,2,5,)            
Kean (4,4,4,6,5,4,4,3,4,2,)            
Rowan (3,3,10,3,2,5,5,NR,6,3,)            
St. John Fisher (6,8,5,7,6,8,8,6,8,7,)            
Union (7,6,6,5,10,9,6,5,5,NR,)            
Lebanon Valley (8,7,NR,8,9,10,7,8,7,9,)            
Springfield (9,NR,7,10,8,6,10,NR,NR,NR,)            
TCNJ (NR,NR,NR,NR,7,7,NR,9,NR,8,)            
Montclair State (10,NR,8,NR,NR,NR,9,7,9,NR,)            
RPI (NR,10,9,9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,6,)            
Ithaca (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,10,)            
Cortland State (NR,9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,)            
Plymouth State (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR,NR,)            

[Ralph Turner]

Thanks!

I appreciate the poll. It is my source for following the East Region in conjunction with the Top 25!

[AUPepBand]

Thanks!

I appreciate the poll. It is my source for following the East Region in conjunction with the Top 25!

Pep appreciates the poll, too. It appears each week in the Pigskin Picks Contest spread in the Alfred Sun and serves as a crutch to those entering the contest, which features East Region D3 teams as well as nationally ranked D1 contests.

On Saxon Warriors!

[Ralph Turner]

Thanks!

I appreciate the poll. It is my source for following the East Region in conjunction with the Top 25!

Pep appreciates the poll, too. It appears each week in the Pigskin Picks Contest spread in the Alfred Sun and serves as a crutch to those entering the contest, which features East Region D3 teams as well as nationally ranked D1 contests.

On Saxon Warriors!

I hope that the Alfred Sun gives appropriate credit, including hyperlink, to the source.   

[pumkinattack]

Dlip,

  I am getting the feeling that a lot of the East is rebuilding this year and that the frontrunners have the best experience and depth (AU, Union, DelVal, etc.), which may explain why the East seems down and/or riddled with parity.  I think that talent has outweighed depth and experience in many occasions in the past.  Specifically in the LL, I personally thought Hobart could reload, but they're risking their first losing year in 15 and RPI only looks better because of a pathetically weak OOC and a bye week.  It could be that some of the historically weaker schools are picking off a potential contributor to the better teams of the last 10-20 years thereby diluting the depth and quality of teams.  It could be the economy that's doing this in the sense that aid packages and personal situations are moving kids around more.  I remain optimistic that AU, Union or an NJAC or MAC school can put on a good show vs. whoever their out of region competition is (since were just speculating that the East seems weaker this year), but I don't have a good feeling about it.  If this year turns out to be particularly weak hopefully everyone's building up for next year.     

[SaintsFAN]

Seeing how a previous post of mine has been removed (understandably so), dlip will remake his point in an appropriate way. The East has not had a serious national contender in a long time. What is the reason for this? Are we that far away or closer than we think? Looking at the polls (just as a piece of the puzzle)  Ithaca and Cortland were in the top 10 nationally and now they are not even or should not even be in the top ten regionally. To dlip it's obvious they were WAY overated to begin with and did not belong with the company they were being put with. Seriously looking at this dlip wonders why is the East not able to field that team/teams that can compete for the National Championship? Obviously you have Mount and UWW as the exceptions way on top but with parity seemingly growing here in the east why is it not growing nationally? Just some thoughts and questions. Questions that we should maybe ask ourselves and look into. dlip really never looks to far out of the East region knowing that East Region teams aren't very relevant when it comes to the big picture. *Pat dlip will keep the obscene references out in the future  .

Ha, your quote being embedded in mine caused mine to be removed as well.  

Damn you Dlip!!!  

if you use *'s... how can you get a post removed, dlip?  Refresh my memory on what it was you said.

[theoriginalupstate]

I like the voting distribution for Rowan...

3,3,10,3,2,5,5,NR,6,3...

All over the place...

[pg04]

Seeing how a previous post of mine has been removed (understandably so), dlip will remake his point in an appropriate way. The East has not had a serious national contender in a long time. What is the reason for this? Are we that far away or closer than we think? Looking at the polls (just as a piece of the puzzle)  Ithaca and Cortland were in the top 10 nationally and now they are not even or should not even be in the top ten regionally. To dlip it's obvious they were WAY overated to begin with and did not belong with the company they were being put with. Seriously looking at this dlip wonders why is the East not able to field that team/teams that can compete for the National Championship? Obviously you have Mount and UWW as the exceptions way on top but with parity seemingly growing here in the east why is it not growing nationally? Just some thoughts and questions. Questions that we should maybe ask ourselves and look into. dlip really never looks to far out of the East region knowing that East Region teams aren't very relevant when it comes to the big picture. *Pat dlip will keep the obscene references out in the future  .

Ha, your quote being embedded in mine caused mine to be removed as well.  

Damn you Dlip!!!  

if you use *'s... how can you get a post removed, dlip?  Refresh my memory on what it was you said.

There was an inappropriate word that wasn't starred out.  Even so, when the stars become half of the post what use is it anymore anyway? 

[theoriginalupstate]

Seeing how a previous post of mine has been removed (understandably so), dlip will remake his point in an appropriate way. The East has not had a serious national contender in a long time. What is the reason for this? Are we that far away or closer than we think? Looking at the polls (just as a piece of the puzzle)  Ithaca and Cortland were in the top 10 nationally and now they are not even or should not even be in the top ten regionally. To dlip it's obvious they were WAY overated to begin with and did not belong with the company they were being put with. Seriously looking at this dlip wonders why is the East not able to field that team/teams that can compete for the National Championship? Obviously you have Mount and UWW as the exceptions way on top but with parity seemingly growing here in the east why is it not growing nationally? Just some thoughts and questions. Questions that we should maybe ask ourselves and look into. dlip really never looks to far out of the East region knowing that East Region teams aren't very relevant when it comes to the big picture. *Pat dlip will keep the obscene references out in the future  .

Ha, your quote being embedded in mine caused mine to be removed as well.  

Damn you Dlip!!!  

if you use *'s... how can you get a post removed, dlip?  Refresh my memory on what it was you said.

There was an inappropriate word that wasn't starred out.  Even so, when the stars become half of the post what use is it anymore anyway? 

What the **** are you talking about?

[SaintsFAN]

Seeing how a previous post of mine has been removed (understandably so), dlip will remake his point in an appropriate way. The East has not had a serious national contender in a long time. What is the reason for this? Are we that far away or closer than we think? Looking at the polls (just as a piece of the puzzle)  Ithaca and Cortland were in the top 10 nationally and now they are not even or should not even be in the top ten regionally. To dlip it's obvious they were WAY overated to begin with and did not belong with the company they were being put with. Seriously looking at this dlip wonders why is the East not able to field that team/teams that can compete for the National Championship? Obviously you have Mount and UWW as the exceptions way on top but with parity seemingly growing here in the east why is it not growing nationally? Just some thoughts and questions. Questions that we should maybe ask ourselves and look into. dlip really never looks to far out of the East region knowing that East Region teams aren't very relevant when it comes to the big picture. *Pat dlip will keep the obscene references out in the future  .

Ha, your quote being embedded in mine caused mine to be removed as well.  

Damn you Dlip!!!  

if you use *'s... how can you get a post removed, dlip?  Refresh my memory on what it was you said.

There was an inappropriate word that wasn't starred out.  Even so, when the stars become half of the post what use is it anymore anyway? 

What the **** are you talking about?

****in A...

[Knightstalker]

I like the voting distribution for Rowan...

3,3,10,3,2,5,5,NR,6,3...

All over the place...

Shouldn't Rowan be out of the poll, after all they lost to Cortland and head to head should count more than anything else.