East Region Fan Poll

[union89]

I know most people including myself have Alfred as #1 in the ERP, but I think in the end Delaware Valley should take over the top spot by season's end. Even if both teams run the table, I would be more impressed with Delaware Valley's body of work over Alfred's just based on the competition they have played. Our best chance at a number 1 seed in the East depends on DVU or Alfred running the table. Even if both do this, I still like DVU as a number 1 seed bc of thier win over John Hopkins. John Hopkins has a great chance at finishing 9-1 with their only blemish being DVU. If DVU only loss ends up being Wesley, I could live with the fact that they beat more quality opponents then Alfred has over the season.

If Alfred runs the table, they will be and deserve to be the East's #1, regardless of what Del Val does the rest of the season, IMO.

[pg04]

I think Alfred is the only Eastern team with a shot at the #1 seed at this point.

I'm gonna take this to mean that you don't think Albright has a chance to beat Del Valley.  Because if Albright runs the table I don't see how they wouldn't be just as deserving (perhaps more so) than if Alfred was undefeated.

My bad, I should have referenced that I don't see Albright running the table....even tough undefeated, their body of work does not impress me.

I could easily see Albight losing 2 of 3 to Widener, Del Val & Leb Val.

Of course their body of work isn't too much better than the rest of the teams.  I think it's possible they lose 2, but more likely they'll probably end up 9-1 in my mind.  if the loss is to Del Val, then Del Val should be the highest seed in the east, IMO. 

You really mean to say highest east region team seeded in the MUC Bracket!

Yes, highest seeded Eastern team.  The number 1 seed I think is going to be MUC or Wesley no matter what (barring a loss by those teams -- gasp).

[theoriginalupstate]

PG, just a scenario, if Albright and AU finish 10-0 with Rowan finishing 9-1 can you still say the same thing?

[pumkinattack]

I don't know if it came out exactly as I wanted it to with respect to rosters, but my point is that the 80th guy vs. the 125th guy is probably about the same when talking about competitive balance.  I know I was just as replaceable as anyone on who didn't travel on the roster, so it wasn't meant as an arrogant statement.  It is valid that the "second half" of the roster helps during the week and I did plenty of that duty (always felt like pass skeleton wasn't a great drill for the offense because 3rd and 4th string LB's just aren't getting into the flat or 15 yards deep in a timely fashion like a starter or second stringer would in game type action, but maybe there's another reason for those drills). 

[pg04]

PG, just a scenario, if Albright and AU finish 10-0 with Rowan finishing 9-1 can you still say the same thing?

Yes. 

[PBR...]

PG, just a scenario, if Albright and AU finish 10-0 with Rowan finishing 9-1 can you still say the same thing?

Yes. 

what about when dvc beats albright and finishes 9-1 w/ the only loss coming to wesley and road win at kean and beating albright/johns hopkins?

[pumkinattack]

It's unfortunate, but it might be the case with a perfect Albright or AU.  At that point, the subjectivity that was supposed to be taken out of this system will be clear as day.  Not looking at the stats, I can't imagine, because of minimal interregional play that MUC or Wesley would have a better statistical profile in a 9 or 10 game season (regardless of what we think about relative strength) than an undefeated Albright or AU. 

[union89]

I can't see how an undefeated Alfred would not get the #1 overall seed in the East.  Baring Alfred (or Albright for that matter) winning out, a Wesley or MUC will be moved in....that seems fair to me as well.

[theoriginalupstate]

PG, just a scenario, if Albright and AU finish 10-0 with Rowan finishing 9-1 can you still say the same thing?

Yes. 

That would totally be a collective kick to the nuts to the members of the East Region...

[union89]

PC, what are your thoughts on the East Region overall #1 seed if Alfred runs the table and goes undefeated?

[pg04]

I can't see how an undefeated Alfred would not get the #1 overall seed in the East.  Baring Alfred (or Albright for that matter) winning out, a Wesley or MUC will be moved in....that seems fair to me as well.

The top 4 teams in the nation are all better than Alfred.  I think that would in fact be more fair than giving it to Alfred just because of regional tie ins. 

[union89]

I can't see how an undefeated Alfred would not get the #1 overall seed in the East.  Baring Alfred (or Albright for that matter) winning out, a Wesley or MUC will be moved in....that seems fair to me as well.

The top 4 teams in the nation are all better than Alfred.  I think that would in fact be more fair than giving it to Alfred just because of regional tie ins. 

If you have won all your games (ie., done everything you can possibly do), in a quality conference like the E8, you should be rewarded.  If say a Curry goes undefeated in the NEFC, I think you have a different situation.

Is it cast in stone that the NCAA seeds the top 4 teams then puts them at the regional #1's?  I have heard this, but don't know that it is a steadfast rule.

[theoriginalupstate]

If you have won all your games (ie., done everything you can possibly do), in a quality conference like the E8, you should be rewarded.  If say a Curry goes undefeated in the NEFC, I think you have a different situation.

Is it cast in stone that the NCAA seeds the top 4 teams then puts them at the regional #1's?  I have heard this, but don't know that it is a steadfast rule.

That has been the trend the past 2 years with the East down as a whole...

Until someone in the East steps up and starts kicking ass on a consistent basis it's probably going to continue...

[union89]

If you have won all your games (ie., done everything you can possibly do), in a quality conference like the E8, you should be rewarded.  If say a Curry goes undefeated in the NEFC, I think you have a different situation.

Is it cast in stone that the NCAA seeds the top 4 teams then puts them at the regional #1's?  I have heard this, but don't know that it is a steadfast rule.

That has been the trend the past 2 years with the East down as a whole...

Until someone in the East steps up and starts kicking ass on a consistent basis it's probably going to continue...

I hear you Upstate, but as you stated, importing a #1 has been a 'trend', not necessarily a new NCAA rule.  MUC has been imported the past 2 years because the East did not have a viable #1 option.  An undefeated Alfred, in a quality conference, with a number of quality wins is a viable #1, IMO.

A one loss ANYONE in the East can easily be pushed aside for a stronger undefeated team out of region.

[dlippiel]

I can't see how an undefeated Alfred would not get the #1 overall seed in the East.  Baring Alfred (or Albright for that matter) winning out, a Wesley or MUC will be moved in....that seems fair to me as well.

The top 4 teams in the nation are all better than Alfred.  I think that would in fact be more fair than giving it to Alfred just because of regional tie ins. 

If you have won all your games (ie., done everything you can possibly do), in a quality conference like the E8, you should be rewarded.  If say a Curry goes undefeated in the NEFC, I think you have a different situation.

Is it cast in stone that the NCAA seeds the top 4 teams then puts them at the regional #1's?  I have heard this, but don't know that it is a steadfast rule.

dlip thinks nothing would be a bigger kick in the face to the East if a team like Alfred and/or Albright goes undefeated and MUC/Wesley/whothe****ever is imported. Obviously if no East region team wins out then the argument for having a East Region team as the #1 seed in the regional playoff becomes much more difficult and an import will most surely be upon us.

Until someone in the East steps up and starts kicking ass on a consistent basis it's probably going to continue...

Perfectly stated upstate and very true.