East Region Fan Poll

Started by pg04, July 05, 2007, 09:44:54 PM

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pg04

Still a few polls out there...  My plan to get the polls out earlier this year hasn't really worked out this year  :P ::)

Knightstalker

Been extremely busy this weekend, thought I would get the poll in tonight, just got home and will get it in tomorrow.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

lewdogg11

Quote from: Knightstalker on October 20, 2009, 12:35:06 AM
Been extremely busy this weekend, thought I would get the poll in tonight, just got home and will get it in tomorrow.

Hey KS...How did it go?  I few glasses of wine and maybe you got your poll in?  Just the tip?

Knightstalker

Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on October 20, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
Quote from: Knightstalker on October 20, 2009, 12:35:06 AM
Been extremely busy this weekend, thought I would get the poll in tonight, just got home and will get it in tomorrow.

Hey KS...How did it go?  I few glasses of wine and maybe you got your poll in?  Just the tip?

Still having poll trouble, must be the 1/2 bottle of Makers Mark before dinner Friday night.  KS was nursing a level 5 at least for a while.   Goddamn middle age, wheres KS's Viagra.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

lewdogg11

Is anyone else, outside of the Fisher bubble secretly hoping Alfred blows Fisher out, not for revenge or anything, but because of Fisher's performance against Mt. Union and Salisbury?...So that we have a hope and savior in the East???

AUKaz00

Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on October 20, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
Is anyone else, outside of the Fisher bubble secretly hoping Alfred blows Fisher out, not for revenge or anything, but because of Fisher's performance against Mt. Union and Salisbury?...So that we have a hope and savior in the East???

This was at the nexus of the post I made which eventually led to 82's disappearance.  I wasn't trying to be flippant, but rather point out that if Fisher goes undefeated in their regional competitions and thus ranks high in the Regional Rankings their losses to MUC and Salisbury will look bad on the East.  A similar argument can be made if Del Valley is the top of the heap since their loss to Wesley would insinuate that the South is that much stronger than the East.
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Doid23

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Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on October 20, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
Is anyone else, outside of the Fisher bubble secretly hoping Alfred blows Fisher out, not for revenge or anything, but because of Fisher's performance against Mt. Union and Salisbury?...So that we have a hope and savior in the East???

Here. Nothing against Fisher, not an Alfred fan either, but Alfred seems to be the East's best hope, although if Rowan beats Kean, especially if it is by a few TD's, that would be a way to compare them favorably with Del Val, along with their win v. Lycoming (east, but still south to me). Salisbury is a key to how the east is viewed as well, they play both Wesley and Union.

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on October 20, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
Is anyone else, outside of the Fisher bubble secretly hoping Alfred blows Fisher out, not for revenge or anything, but because of Fisher's performance against Mt. Union and Salisbury?...So that we have a hope and savior in the East???



"Next question..."

From a perspective that doesn't involve Cardinal colored glasses I do see your point in wanting some fresh blood to represent the East as their top dog.  

From a Cardinal and E8 fan I'd like to see SJF win the AQ and AU win out so both teams get in.  But that's just me...

lewdogg11

Quote from: Upstate on October 20, 2009, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on October 20, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
Is anyone else, outside of the Fisher bubble secretly hoping Alfred blows Fisher out, not for revenge or anything, but because of Fisher's performance against Mt. Union and Salisbury?...So that we have a hope and savior in the East???



"Next question..."

From a perspective that doesn't involve Cardinal colored glasses I do see your point in wanting some fresh blood to represent the East as their top dog.  

From a Cardinal and E8 fan I'd like to see SJF win the AQ and AU win out so both teams get in.  But that's just me...

Doesn't have to do with 'fresh blood'...More like Fisher has already played some teams outside of the East and couldn't match up...So i'm hoping maybe Alfred will show that they can.

maxpower

Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on October 20, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
Is anyone else, outside of the Fisher bubble secretly hoping Alfred blows Fisher out, not for revenge or anything, but because of Fisher's performance against Mt. Union and Salisbury?...So that we have a hope and savior in the East???

Yeah, I posted about this over on the E8 board.

pumkinattack

I agree.  The chance to have one team that might compete deep into the playoffs vs. a team with two OOR losses is they key.  

In a down year for my Hobart I'd be fine with Fisher being a dominant team as long as we didn't have to hear about it all the time.  I'm just waiting for Hobart's year to take off.  NCAA's 7 times in 9 years but never that phenomenal team that could make it late.  Some of those years they've faced the best in earlier rounds, but people tend to only give credit for how deep you got and not who you went through to get there (caveat, Bart's best wins in the playoffs are both at home vs. Cortland and Lycoming, then a couple of NEFC blowouts and a last second loss to a decent Rowan team on their turf and a close 2nd rd loss to DelVal on their mud).  

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on October 20, 2009, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: Upstate on October 20, 2009, 09:46:32 AM
Quote from: Dr. Lew Von Doggenstein on October 20, 2009, 08:58:33 AM
Is anyone else, outside of the Fisher bubble secretly hoping Alfred blows Fisher out, not for revenge or anything, but because of Fisher's performance against Mt. Union and Salisbury?...So that we have a hope and savior in the East???



"Next question..."

From a perspective that doesn't involve Cardinal colored glasses I do see your point in wanting some fresh blood to represent the East as their top dog.  

From a Cardinal and E8 fan I'd like to see SJF win the AQ and AU win out so both teams get in.  But that's just me...

Doesn't have to do with 'fresh blood'...More like Fisher has already played some teams outside of the East and couldn't match up...So i'm hoping maybe Alfred will show that they can.

There are very few teams in the east (3-4) that would have a better record than SJF if they had SJF's schedule...

theoriginalupstate

Quote from: pumkinattack on October 20, 2009, 10:10:03 AM
I agree.  The chance to have one team that might compete deep into the playoffs vs. a team with two OOR losses is they key.  

In a down year for my Hobart I'd be fine with Fisher being a dominant team as long as we didn't have to hear about it all the time.  I'm just waiting for Hobart's year to take off.  NCAA's 7 times in 9 years but never that phenomenal team that could make it late.  Some of those years they've faced the best in earlier rounds, but people tend to only give credit for how deep you got and not who you went through to get there (caveat, Bart's best wins in the playoffs are both at home vs. Cortland and Lycoming, then a couple of NEFC blowouts and a last second loss to a decent Rowan team on their turf and a close 2nd rd loss to DelVal on their mud).  

There's only a few boisterous SJF alum that perhaps toot their own horn a bit too much, in fact I don't think our loudest fan is on here anymore (82).  We're still a young program, we've only been around for 21 years.  We don't have a lot to draw on in terms of history like Ithaca, Hobart, Union, RPI and heck even Rochester has been playing football forever...

All in all I don't think there's a huge difference between the Hobarts, Unions and IC's followers on here compared to the SJF ones...

Hobart has been on a heck of a run recently this past decade, you can go off right now if you wanted about how you're a regional power you guys have earned it...

AUKaz00

Quote from: Upstate on October 20, 2009, 11:42:37 AM
There are very few teams in the east (3-4) that would have a better record than SJF if they had SJF's schedule...

I'm not so sure.  How good is Salisbury?  They've lost to NC Wesleyan who lost to Emory and Henry who isn't exactly the cream of the ODAC (who sent their winner to the East as the 8 seed last year) and to Christopher Newport who lost to Wilkes who most of us think is down quite a bit this year.  Now with an offense like theirs it may lead to more divergent results than a more traditional offense, but I still think there are more than 3 or 4 east teams that could be 5-1 with Fisher's schedule.
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theoriginalupstate

Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 20, 2009, 11:55:20 AM
Quote from: Upstate on October 20, 2009, 11:42:37 AM
There are very few teams in the east (3-4) that would have a better record than SJF if they had SJF's schedule...

I'm not so sure.  How good is Salisbury?  They've lost to NC Wesleyan who lost to Emory and Henry who isn't exactly the cream of the ODAC (who sent their winner to the East as the 8 seed last year) and to Christopher Newport who lost to Wilkes who most of us think is down quite a bit this year.  Now with an offense like theirs it may lead to more divergent results than a more traditional offense, but I still think there are more than 3 or 4 east teams that could be 5-1 with Fisher's schedule.

AU, Rowan, Del Valley and Albright are those 4 teams I was referring to...

Other than those I don't see too many teams going into Salisbury and fairing any better...