East Region Fan Poll

[lewdogg11]

Is anyone else, outside of the Fisher bubble secretly hoping Alfred blows Fisher out, not for revenge or anything, but because of Fisher's performance against Mt. Union and Salisbury?...So that we have a hope and savior in the East???

"Next question..."

From a perspective that doesn't involve Cardinal colored glasses I do see your point in wanting some fresh blood to represent the East as their top dog.  

From a Cardinal and E8 fan I'd like to see SJF win the AQ and AU win out so both teams get in.  But that's just me...

Doesn't have to do with 'fresh blood'...More like Fisher has already played some teams outside of the East and couldn't match up...So i'm hoping maybe Alfred will show that they can.

There are very few teams in the east (3-4) that would have a better record than SJF if they had SJF's schedule...

What the **** is wrong with you Fisher guys?  I'm not saying ANYTHING bad about them or their schedule.  I'm saying that they have had a crack out of region and if they are the East's best, then the East royally sucks.  I hope Alfred can provide some hope to giving the East a shot at being competitive.  Jesus H.!!!  

Gro I got what you were saying, you and everyone else want to see how the rest of the east stacked up.  No need to go ballistic when I say that there are less than a hand full of teams that would have done any better...

gro? where did he come from? thought is was LD in here...

Thanks for the correction, I get them confused...

yes they do look a lot alike...

Yes, Gro and I go together like cocaine and waffles.

[boobyhasgameyo]

How about if we turned the argument around on itself.  If Fisher were 5-0 and Alfred were 4-2 with those losses being out of region, which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time?

BINGO!!!

Lew we get your point but honestly it's all pointless.  Your main gripe here is about perception..."Which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time"....So if Fisher wins out it shows the East in weak since they lost their out of region games we get it.  But who the hell cares about perception?  Change their minds by winning in the playoffs.  Like I said before if Alfred goes 8-1 they would still make it as an At-Large and in all likelyhood Mount Union would again be shipped East and then we'd all have our cracks to prove the East isn't that weak as opposed to a lame perception by one team winning out against regional opponents but losing out of region.  Unless you guys are afraid to play them and would rather show how "strong" the East is against the less powerful playoff teams.  

[Doid23]

How about if we turned the argument around on itself.  If Fisher were 5-0 and Alfred were 4-2 with those losses being out of region, which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time?

BINGO!!!

Lew we get your point but honestly it's all pointless.  Your main gripe here is about perception..."Which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time"....So if Fisher wins out it shows the East in weak since they lost their out of region games we get it.  But who the hell cares about perception?  Change their minds by winning in the playoffs.  Like I said before if Alfred goes 8-1 they would still make it as an At-Large and in all likelyhood Mount Union would again be shipped East and then we'd all have our cracks to prove the East isn't that weak as opposed to a lame perception by one team winning out against regional opponents but losing out of region.  Unless you guys are afraid to play them and would rather show how "strong" the East is against the less powerful playoff teams.  

No, no, no, that's not his point at.....wait a second, I see what you're doing. You're trying to pull me in like you pulled LD in. Man, you guys ARE good, you almost had me. Well played, sir.

[lewdogg11]

How about if we turned the argument around on itself.  If Fisher were 5-0 and Alfred were 4-2 with those losses being out of region, which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time?

BINGO!!!

Lew we get your point but honestly it's all pointless.  Your main gripe here is about perception..."Which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time"....So if Fisher wins out it shows the East in weak since they lost their out of region games we get it.  But who the hell cares about perception?  Change their minds by winning in the playoffs.  Like I said before if Alfred goes 8-1 they would still make it as an At-Large and in all likelyhood Mount Union would again be shipped East and then we'd all have our cracks to prove the East isn't that weak as opposed to a lame perception by one team winning out against regional opponents but losing out of region.  Unless you guys are afraid to play them and would rather show how "strong" the East is against the less powerful playoff teams.  

Nah man, I don't care about perception.  Look, maybe Fisher laid an egg against Salisbury, and has improved a great deal since Mt. Union, and I really do hope so, especially if they are in the tournament.  But right now, that's all we have to go on UNTIL the playoffs.  So we have a few scenarios:

1.  Fisher is MUCH improved, beats up Alfred, makes the playoffs, and does well.
2.  Alfred isn't that good, loses to Fisher, and the East looks dookie again(except for maybe an NJAC/MAC rescue)
3.  Fisher is MUCH improved, loses to a better Alfred team, who does well in the playoffs, or,
4.  Alfred slides by a mediocre Fisher, and does nothing in the playoffs.

No perceptions here.  Just wishful thinking on the big picture, not just through a tiny little microscope in Rochester.

[boobyhasgameyo]

How about if we turned the argument around on itself.  If Fisher were 5-0 and Alfred were 4-2 with those losses being out of region, which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time?

BINGO!!!

Lew we get your point but honestly it's all pointless.  Your main gripe here is about perception..."Which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time"....So if Fisher wins out it shows the East in weak since they lost their out of region games we get it.  But who the hell cares about perception?  Change their minds by winning in the playoffs.  Like I said before if Alfred goes 8-1 they would still make it as an At-Large and in all likelyhood Mount Union would again be shipped East and then we'd all have our cracks to prove the East isn't that weak as opposed to a lame perception by one team winning out against regional opponents but losing out of region.  Unless you guys are afraid to play them and would rather show how "strong" the East is against the less powerful playoff teams.  

Nah man, I don't care about perception.  Look, maybe Fisher laid an egg against Salisbury, and has improved a great deal since Mt. Union, and I really do hope so, especially if they are in the tournament.  But right now, that's all we have to go on UNTIL the playoffs.  So we have a few scenarios:

1.  Fisher is MUCH improved, beats up Alfred, makes the playoffs, and does well.
2.  Alfred isn't that good, loses to Fisher, and the East looks dookie again(except for maybe an NJAC/MAC rescue)
3.  Fisher is MUCH improved, loses to a better Alfred team, who does well in the playoffs, or,
4.  Alfred slides by a mediocre Fisher, and does nothing in the playoffs.

No perceptions here.  Just wishful thinking on the big picture, not just through a tiny little microscope in Rochester.

Ha, no I am not looking at things through my tiny microscope in Rochester...I obviously would like for my school to be as high as seed as possible so I mean you won't see me actively rooting for them to be destroyed by Alfred...But I have said ime and again I root for the East pretty hard come playoff time, and I would love to see an Eastern team go deep.  I just don't particularly agree that Alfred winning out is the best scenario for that to play out.  Do you know what I mean?  Because now even I am starting to sound vague and nondescript to myself....

[lewdogg11]

How about if we turned the argument around on itself.  If Fisher were 5-0 and Alfred were 4-2 with those losses being out of region, which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time?

BINGO!!!

Lew we get your point but honestly it's all pointless.  Your main gripe here is about perception..."Which team winning out would you think would show that the East isn't a complete push-over come playoff time"....So if Fisher wins out it shows the East in weak since they lost their out of region games we get it.  But who the hell cares about perception?  Change their minds by winning in the playoffs.  Like I said before if Alfred goes 8-1 they would still make it as an At-Large and in all likelyhood Mount Union would again be shipped East and then we'd all have our cracks to prove the East isn't that weak as opposed to a lame perception by one team winning out against regional opponents but losing out of region.  Unless you guys are afraid to play them and would rather show how "strong" the East is against the less powerful playoff teams.  

Nah man, I don't care about perception.  Look, maybe Fisher laid an egg against Salisbury, and has improved a great deal since Mt. Union, and I really do hope so, especially if they are in the tournament.  But right now, that's all we have to go on UNTIL the playoffs.  So we have a few scenarios:

1.  Fisher is MUCH improved, beats up Alfred, makes the playoffs, and does well.
2.  Alfred isn't that good, loses to Fisher, and the East looks dookie again(except for maybe an NJAC/MAC rescue)
3.  Fisher is MUCH improved, loses to a better Alfred team, who does well in the playoffs, or,
4.  Alfred slides by a mediocre Fisher, and does nothing in the playoffs.

No perceptions here.  Just wishful thinking on the big picture, not just through a tiny little microscope in Rochester.

Ha, no I am not looking at things through my tiny microscope in Rochester...I obviously would like for my school to be as high as seed as possible so I mean you won't see me actively rooting for them to be destroyed by Alfred...But I have said ime and again I root for the East pretty hard come playoff time, and I would love to see an Eastern team go deep.  I just don't particularly agree that Alfred winning out is the best scenario for that to play out.  Do you know what I mean?  Because now even I am starting to sound vague and nondescript to myself....

I know what you mean, and I wouldn't expect you to root for Alfred. 

[theoriginalupstate]

Nah man, I don't care about perception.  Look, maybe Fisher laid an egg against Salisbury, and has improved a great deal since Mt. Union, and I really do hope so, especially if they are in the tournament.  But right now, that's all we have to go on UNTIL the playoffs.  So we have a few scenarios:

1.  Fisher is MUCH improved, beats up Alfred, makes the playoffs, and does well.
2.  Alfred isn't that good, loses to Fisher, and the East looks dookie again(except for maybe an NJAC/MAC rescue)
3.  Fisher is MUCH improved, loses to a better Alfred team, who does well in the playoffs, or,
4.  Alfred slides by a mediocre Fisher, and does nothing in the playoffs.

No perceptions here.  Just wishful thinking on the big picture, not just through a tiny little microscope in Rochester.

With teams like Wesley, Wheaton, Linfield, St. Johns and UW-W all going strong again there is a 100% chance MUC gets moved to the East. So regardless of how Rowan, Del Valley, Alfred, Albright and St. John Fisher finish up we're all going to have to be fed to the purple people eaters again. So to be arguing on who would look better representing the east is a moot point...

[lewdogg11]

Alfred would smoke Mt. Union for sure.

[theoriginalupstate]

Alfred would smoke Mt. Union for sure.

One thing for sure it would be every AU fans dream, there would be purple all over the place...

Pep, Kazoo and Sarge at the AU pep rally this weekend!

[Jonny Utah]

Nah man, I don't care about perception.  Look, maybe Fisher laid an egg against Salisbury, and has improved a great deal since Mt. Union, and I really do hope so, especially if they are in the tournament.  But right now, that's all we have to go on UNTIL the playoffs.  So we have a few scenarios:

1.  Fisher is MUCH improved, beats up Alfred, makes the playoffs, and does well.
2.  Alfred isn't that good, loses to Fisher, and the East looks dookie again(except for maybe an NJAC/MAC rescue)
3.  Fisher is MUCH improved, loses to a better Alfred team, who does well in the playoffs, or,
4.  Alfred slides by a mediocre Fisher, and does nothing in the playoffs.

No perceptions here.  Just wishful thinking on the big picture, not just through a tiny little microscope in Rochester.

With teams like Wesley, Wheaton, Linfield, St. Johns and UW-W all going strong again there is a 100% chance MUC gets moved to the East. So regardless of how Rowan, Del Valley, Alfred, Albright and St. John Fisher finish up we're all going to have to be fed to the purple people eaters again. So to be arguing on who would look better representing the east is a moot point...

I have this strange feeling that somthing funky and different is going to happen with the east this year.  Like Wesley at the #1 and Otterbein or W@J as the #2 seeds.

[AUKaz00]

Alfred would smoke Mt. Union for sure.

One thing for sure it would be every AU fans dream, there would be purple all over the place...

The Saxons are doing what they can to bring about a family reunion of sorts.  The band's sousaphone player has a twin sister in the MUC marching band and the football team needs to make sure she has bragging rights over Christmas dinner!

[theoriginalupstate]

Nah man, I don't care about perception.  Look, maybe Fisher laid an egg against Salisbury, and has improved a great deal since Mt. Union, and I really do hope so, especially if they are in the tournament.  But right now, that's all we have to go on UNTIL the playoffs.  So we have a few scenarios:

1.  Fisher is MUCH improved, beats up Alfred, makes the playoffs, and does well.
2.  Alfred isn't that good, loses to Fisher, and the East looks dookie again(except for maybe an NJAC/MAC rescue)
3.  Fisher is MUCH improved, loses to a better Alfred team, who does well in the playoffs, or,
4.  Alfred slides by a mediocre Fisher, and does nothing in the playoffs.

No perceptions here.  Just wishful thinking on the big picture, not just through a tiny little microscope in Rochester.

With teams like Wesley, Wheaton, Linfield, St. Johns and UW-W all going strong again there is a 100% chance MUC gets moved to the East. So regardless of how Rowan, Del Valley, Alfred, Albright and St. John Fisher finish up we're all going to have to be fed to the purple people eaters again. So to be arguing on who would look better representing the east is a moot point...

I have this strange feeling that somthing funky and different is going to happen with the east this year.  Like Wesley at the #1 and Otterbein or W@J as the #2 seeds.

Could very well be the case, but one thing for sure is that the East will not have a #1 team this year.  Albright might finish 10-0 and AU might finish 9-0, I can see both of them doing so and still end up as 2 and 3 seeds...

[theoriginalupstate]

Alfred would smoke Mt. Union for sure.

One thing for sure it would be every AU fans dream, there would be purple all over the place...

The Saxons are doing what they can to bring about a family reunion of sorts.  The band's sousaphone player has a twin sister in the MUC marching band and the football team needs to make sure she has bragging rights over Christmas dinner!

Leave it to those classy AU guys to take an insult and flip it around into something family related...

You guys are too damn nice!

+K

[JQV]

Not to be contrarian but can I ask a basic question underlying this entire debate: why does everyone care how the East Region is perceived or how it performs?  I don't wish ill on Alfred, Fisher, RPI, or anyone else in the East once IC's season is over but I also don't really care if they succeed.  When I was still playing I never understood why opponents would say "now you have to go win the whole thing" after my team beat them in a tournament or in the playoffs.  Why do opponents become allies so quickly?

[lewdogg11]

Not to be contrarian but can I ask a basic question underlying this entire debate: why does everyone care how the East Region is perceived or how it performs?  I don't wish ill on Alfred, Fisher, RPI, or anyone else in the East once IC's season is over but I also don't really care if they succeed.  When I was still playing I never understood why opponents would say "now you have to go win the whole thing" after my team beat them in a tournament or in the playoffs.  Why do opponents become allies so quickly?

Because i'm sick of Mt. ****ing Union.