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AUPepBand

Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 21, 2009, 07:12:18 AM
Just a random thought here:

The NJAC is like the 2009 NFL with absolutly no parity.  4 Good teams, 3 ok teams, and 3 really bad teams.  And these 3 really bad teams have no chance at beating anyone.  The E8, LL and MAC dont have any "really bad teams".  I think that makes it a lot easier for the NJAC in some regards.  Not in terms of the conference being worse or better than the other conferences, but there are 3 automatic wins for everyone there.  Its not like that in the other leagues where teams dont have any cupcakes in conference. 

Good point. Pep will also make note of Norwich's sudden success (4-0 with tilts remaining against SUNY-Maritime, and "JV programs" Castleton State and Anna Maria) in its new Eastern Collegiate Football Conference after being the cupcake in the E8 for a few years. Reminds Pep of Coast Guard's struggles in the LL followed by instant success after its bolt for the NEFC.

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Quote from: RedDragonFan on October 20, 2009, 10:22:23 PMPlease, no need to be sad.  As a relatively new poster to these boards I was unaware of your affiliation.  Even more of a surprise is your ability to access the internet to post here given how difficult it is for Ithaca to string together three W's. 

Not sure of the connection but, +k. 

Either way, I'll have figured out this interweb thing on November 14, 2009.  That's when IC will string together its third straight Jug win.

Knightstalker

Quote from: AUPepBand on October 21, 2009, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 21, 2009, 07:12:18 AM
Just a random thought here:

The NJAC is like the 2009 NFL with absolutly no parity.  4 Good teams, 3 ok teams, and 3 really bad teams.  And these 3 really bad teams have no chance at beating anyone.  The E8, LL and MAC dont have any "really bad teams".  I think that makes it a lot easier for the NJAC in some regards.  Not in terms of the conference being worse or better than the other conferences, but there are 3 automatic wins for everyone there.  Its not like that in the other leagues where teams dont have any cupcakes in conference. 

Good point. Pep will also make note of Norwich's sudden success (4-0 with tilts remaining against SUNY-Maritime, and "JV programs" Castleton State and Anna Maria) in its new Eastern Collegiate Football Conference after being the cupcake in the E8 for a few years. Reminds Pep of Coast Guard's struggles in the LL followed by instant success after its bolt for the NEFC.



Is having 3 conference cupcakes any different than scheduling ooc cupcakes ala RPI?  The NJAC team have to play those three games against the conf cupcakes and still risk losing a key player to injury or unprecedented upset.  Ask the 98 Rowan team what a conf cupcake can rise up to do.  Sorry JT, KS has to take that shot any time he can.

KS is working hard to clear up his day for Halloween, the Kean Rowan game should be a good one and it should show us a lot about both teams.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

PBR...

Quote from: Knightstalker on October 21, 2009, 08:37:49 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on October 21, 2009, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 21, 2009, 07:12:18 AM
Just a random thought here:

The NJAC is like the 2009 NFL with absolutly no parity.  4 Good teams, 3 ok teams, and 3 really bad teams.  And these 3 really bad teams have no chance at beating anyone.  The E8, LL and MAC dont have any "really bad teams".  I think that makes it a lot easier for the NJAC in some regards.  Not in terms of the conference being worse or better than the other conferences, but there are 3 automatic wins for everyone there.  Its not like that in the other leagues where teams dont have any cupcakes in conference. 

Good point. Pep will also make note of Norwich's sudden success (4-0 with tilts remaining against SUNY-Maritime, and "JV programs" Castleton State and Anna Maria) in its new Eastern Collegiate Football Conference after being the cupcake in the E8 for a few years. Reminds Pep of Coast Guard's struggles in the LL followed by instant success after its bolt for the NEFC.



Is having 3 conference cupcakes any different than scheduling ooc cupcakes ala RPI?  The NJAC team have to play those three games against the conf cupcakes and still risk losing a key player to injury or unprecedented upset.  Ask the 98 Rowan team what a conf cupcake can rise up to do.  Sorry JT, KS has to take that shot any time he can.

KS is working hard to clear up his day for Halloween, the Kean Rowan game should be a good one and it should show us a lot about both teams.

crazy....another big storm rolling in saterday and a another big storm forecasted for halloween (granted too far out to say w/ certainty yet... but perfect storm again?) well pbr guesses everyone is use to playing in the rain/snow by now since it seems to rain every saterday now...

Jonny Utah

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Quote from: Knightstalker on October 21, 2009, 08:37:49 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on October 21, 2009, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 21, 2009, 07:12:18 AM
Just a random thought here:

The NJAC is like the 2009 NFL with absolutly no parity.  4 Good teams, 3 ok teams, and 3 really bad teams.  And these 3 really bad teams have no chance at beating anyone.  The E8, LL and MAC dont have any "really bad teams".  I think that makes it a lot easier for the NJAC in some regards.  Not in terms of the conference being worse or better than the other conferences, but there are 3 automatic wins for everyone there.  Its not like that in the other leagues where teams dont have any cupcakes in conference.  

Good point. Pep will also make note of Norwich's sudden success (4-0 with tilts remaining against SUNY-Maritime, and "JV programs" Castleton State and Anna Maria) in its new Eastern Collegiate Football Conference after being the cupcake in the E8 for a few years. Reminds Pep of Coast Guard's struggles in the LL followed by instant success after its bolt for the NEFC.



Is having 3 conference cupcakes any different than scheduling ooc cupcakes ala RPI?  The NJAC team have to play those three games against the conf cupcakes and still risk losing a key player to injury or unprecedented upset.  Ask the 98 Rowan team what a conf cupcake can rise up to do.  Sorry JT, KS has to take that shot any time he can.

KS is working hard to clear up his day for Halloween, the Kean Rowan game should be a good one and it should show us a lot about both teams.

Well besides RPIs and a few other teams nonleague schedules, most east teams play average or above non-league competition.  And there is really no chance of an upset from those bottom NJAC teams.  And you should only risk injury for a quarter or two against those teams as well.  Ithaca has to risk injury for probably the whole game against Union, Cortland, Widener and apparently Frostburg.

Again, my point wasn't that the NJAC does this on purpose, its just the way the league happend to end up this year.  The top 4 teams in the NJAC may be better than the top 4 in any other eastern conference.  But the bottom 3 clearly are the 3 of the worst in the east.

Knightstalker

Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 21, 2009, 08:48:53 AM
Quote from: Knightstalker on October 21, 2009, 08:37:49 AM
Quote from: AUPepBand on October 21, 2009, 08:00:15 AM
Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 21, 2009, 07:12:18 AM
Just a random thought here:

The NJAC is like the 2009 NFL with absolutly no parity.  4 Good teams, 3 ok teams, and 3 really bad teams.  And these 3 really bad teams have no chance at beating anyone.  The E8, LL and MAC dont have any "really bad teams".  I think that makes it a lot easier for the NJAC in some regards.  Not in terms of the conference being worse or better than the other conferences, but there are 3 automatic wins for everyone there.  Its not like that in the other leagues where teams dont have any cupcakes in conference. 

Good point. Pep will also make note of Norwich's sudden success (4-0 with tilts remaining against SUNY-Maritime, and "JV programs" Castleton State and Anna Maria) in its new Eastern Collegiate Football Conference after being the cupcake in the E8 for a few years. Reminds Pep of Coast Guard's struggles in the LL followed by instant success after its bolt for the NEFC.



Is having 3 conference cupcakes any different than scheduling ooc cupcakes ala RPI?  The NJAC team have to play those three games against the conf cupcakes and still risk losing a key player to injury or unprecedented upset.  Ask the 98 Rowan team what a conf cupcake can rise up to do.  Sorry JT, KS has to take that shot any time he can.

KS is working hard to clear up his day for Halloween, the Kean Rowan game should be a good one and it should show us a lot about both teams.

Well besides RPIs nonleague schedule, most east teams play average or above non-league competition.  And there is really no chance of an upset and you should only risk injury for a quarter or two against those teams.

Again, my point wasn't that the NJAC does this on purpose, its just the way the league happend to end up this year.

I actually wish the NJAC had not brought in Mooville and Buff State.  10 teams is too many in DIII football conf.  Time to send West Conn to the ECFC or somewhere else.  Then go to a rotating sched with 7 conf games a season.

"In the end we will survive rather than perish not because we accumulate comfort and luxury but because we accumulate wisdom"  Colonel Jack Jacobs US Army (Ret).

RedDragonFan

Quote from: Yankee_Dragon (f/k/a JQV before USF got ripped by Cincy) on October 21, 2009, 08:33:44 AM

Not sure of the connection but, +k. 

Either way, I'll have figured out this interweb thing on November 14, 2009.  That's when IC will string together its third straight Jug win.

Nice, all that money spent on an IC diploma and still can't make the connections.  I'll bring it down a couple of notches for you going forward so you don't miss anything. If anyone else posts something out here that you are unsure of, feel free to ask for help.  Looking forward to 11/14 too.  CStates season is over but we always have that to look forward to.

Knightstalker is correct that the NJAC seems to always have 2-3 really weak teams, but in the end, when you look at most teams schedules, some can argue that there are a couple on everyones schedule.

SaintsFAN

Quote from: Ty1983 on October 20, 2009, 01:19:12 PM


Everyone's cards are turned over when it comes to losing to MUC by 50 in the play-offs, reg. season or in Donkey Kong.

Did they turn their cards over against salisbury?  If you say so.  Just call the Fisher SID and let him know Fisher shouldnt bother playing the rest of their games cuz they lost in week 4 on the road in a OOC game that wont affect them as long as they win out going undefeated against all other East competition.   

What the hell is the SID going to do??  Put out a release about the call? 

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Jonny Utah

Quote from: RedDragonFan on October 21, 2009, 08:59:39 AM
Quote from: Yankee_Dragon (f/k/a JQV before USF got ripped by Cincy) on October 21, 2009, 08:33:44 AM

Not sure of the connection but, +k. 

Either way, I'll have figured out this interweb thing on November 14, 2009.  That's when IC will string together its third straight Jug win.

Nice, all that money spent on an IC diploma and still can't make the connections.  I'll bring it down a couple of notches for you going forward so you don't miss anything. If anyone else posts something out here that you are unsure of, feel free to ask for help.  Looking forward to 11/14 too.  CStates season is over but we always have that to look forward to.

Knightstalker is correct that the NJAC seems to always have 2-3 really weak teams, but in the end, when you look at most teams schedules, some can argue that there are a couple on everyones schedule.


RedDragonFan during his summers off....

sorry the kickball stuff is too easy...

My point was the the 2-3 really weak teams are really weak this year.  Most east teams dont play 3 automatic wins like that. 




dlippiel

Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 21, 2009, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: Ty1983 on October 20, 2009, 01:19:12 PM


Everyone's cards are turned over when it comes to losing to MUC by 50 in the play-offs, reg. season or in Donkey Kong.

Did they turn their cards over against salisbury?  If you say so.  Just call the Fisher SID and let him know Fisher shouldnt bother playing the rest of their games cuz they lost in week 4 on the road in a OOC game that wont affect them as long as they win out going undefeated against all other East competition.   

What the hell is the SID going to do??  Put out a release about the call? 



dlip will be honest here. He has always liked SJF and rooted for them most weeks in region and all the time out of region. Yet he finds himself getting ****ing annoyed with all the SJF bull**** going on. With an Alfred W and them possibly continuing to run the table the East may just get that #1 seed in the Saxons, so dlip may just be pulling for them against SJF. SJF wins and wins out you can definitely open the door for and out of region team (****in MUC). We know SJF can't handle MUC (nor can anyone else) and we know SJF can't handle an off year Salisbury team. Hence, we already know **** about them OOC wise that they are not very good against mediocore to Great out of region competition. With Alfred and even Rowan or Alrbight there is the element of the unknown and possibly a false sense of hope come tournament time for the East. We even know about Del Val having had their ass handed to them by now #4 Wesley. So regarding hope and excitement it may just be better to have a Saxon W over the Cardinals. In reality dlip does not give a **** who represents our region because they will eventually get Monkey stomped (hoping dlip is wrong here) in the Quater or Semi-finals. dlip's measure of success here in the East; 1st and 2nd round NCAA victories, **** even making the tourney.

lewdogg11

Quote from: dlippiel on October 21, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 21, 2009, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: Ty1983 on October 20, 2009, 01:19:12 PM


Everyone's cards are turned over when it comes to losing to MUC by 50 in the play-offs, reg. season or in Donkey Kong.

Did they turn their cards over against salisbury?  If you say so.  Just call the Fisher SID and let him know Fisher shouldnt bother playing the rest of their games cuz they lost in week 4 on the road in a OOC game that wont affect them as long as they win out going undefeated against all other East competition.   

What the hell is the SID going to do??  Put out a release about the call? 



dlip will be honest here. He has always liked SJF and rooted for them most weeks in region and all the time out of region. Yet he finds himself getting ****ing annoyed with all the SJF bull**** going on. With an Alfred W and them possibly continuing to run the table the East may just get that #1 seed in the Saxons, so dlip may just be pulling for them against SJF. SJF wins and wins out you can definitely open the door for and out of region team (****in MUC). We know SJF can't handle MUC (nor can anyone else) and we know SJF can't handle an off year Salisbury team. Hence, we already know **** about them OOC wise that they are not very good against mediocore to Great out of region competition. With Alfred and even Rowan or Alrbight there is the element of the unknown and possibly a false sense of hope come tournament time for the East. We even know about Del Val having had their ass handed to them by now #4 Wesley. So regarding hope and excitement it may just be better to have a Saxon W over the Cardinals. In reality dlip does not give a **** who represents our region because they will eventually get Monkey stomped (hoping dlip is wrong here) in the Quater or Semi-finals. dlip's measure of success here in the East; 1st and 2nd round NCAA victories, **** even making the tourney.


All i can say to this is....Be careful to speak too soon, because so far, Union couldn't match up against a 2-4 out of Region team.  Hopefully they can bring it to Salisbury, but be careful until then.

dlippiel

Quote from: Dr. LVD, OBGYN on October 21, 2009, 11:38:53 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on October 21, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 21, 2009, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: Ty1983 on October 20, 2009, 01:19:12 PM


Everyone's cards are turned over when it comes to losing to MUC by 50 in the play-offs, reg. season or in Donkey Kong.

Did they turn their cards over against salisbury?  If you say so.  Just call the Fisher SID and let him know Fisher shouldnt bother playing the rest of their games cuz they lost in week 4 on the road in a OOC game that wont affect them as long as they win out going undefeated against all other East competition.   

What the hell is the SID going to do??  Put out a release about the call? 



dlip will be honest here. He has always liked SJF and rooted for them most weeks in region and all the time out of region. Yet he finds himself getting ****ing annoyed with all the SJF bull**** going on. With an Alfred W and them possibly continuing to run the table the East may just get that #1 seed in the Saxons, so dlip may just be pulling for them against SJF. SJF wins and wins out you can definitely open the door for and out of region team (****in MUC). We know SJF can't handle MUC (nor can anyone else) and we know SJF can't handle an off year Salisbury team. Hence, we already know **** about them OOC wise that they are not very good against mediocore to Great out of region competition. With Alfred and even Rowan or Alrbight there is the element of the unknown and possibly a false sense of hope come tournament time for the East. We even know about Del Val having had their ass handed to them by now #4 Wesley. So regarding hope and excitement it may just be better to have a Saxon W over the Cardinals. In reality dlip does not give a **** who represents our region because they will eventually get Monkey stomped (hoping dlip is wrong here) in the Quater or Semi-finals. dlip's measure of success here in the East; 1st and 2nd round NCAA victories, **** even making the tourney.


All i can say to this is....Be careful to speak too soon, because so far, Union couldn't match up against a 2-4 out of Region team.  Hopefully they can bring it to Salisbury, but be careful until then.

In dlip's opinion he favors Salisbury to win on Saturday. This is not being negative against the U whom he loves and always supports. It comes from comparing the two teams and how they have performed thus far against competition. dlip feels, if he is being real, especially after last weeks performance, and Union getting ****ing killed by the run, that Salisbury will win. Which will further validate dlips point of the east being weak when a 5-1 team loses to a middle of the road OOC team. Of course dlip hopes he is wrong here!

Jonny Utah

Dont forget Salisbury is a triple option team if Im not mistaken.  That can be good or bad for some defenses.  Union had some small but tough d-backs from what I remember.  That may give them an edge on defense.

PBR...

Quote from: dlippiel on October 21, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 21, 2009, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: Ty1983 on October 20, 2009, 01:19:12 PM


Everyone's cards are turned over when it comes to losing to MUC by 50 in the play-offs, reg. season or in Donkey Kong.

Did they turn their cards over against salisbury?  If you say so.  Just call the Fisher SID and let him know Fisher shouldnt bother playing the rest of their games cuz they lost in week 4 on the road in a OOC game that wont affect them as long as they win out going undefeated against all other East competition.   

What the hell is the SID going to do??  Put out a release about the call? 



dlip will be honest here. He has always liked SJF and rooted for them most weeks in region and all the time out of region. Yet he finds himself getting ****ing annoyed with all the SJF bull**** going on. With an Alfred W and them possibly continuing to run the table the East may just get that #1 seed in the Saxons, so dlip may just be pulling for them against SJF. SJF wins and wins out you can definitely open the door for and out of region team (****in MUC). We know SJF can't handle MUC (nor can anyone else) and we know SJF can't handle an off year Salisbury team. Hence, we already know **** about them OOC wise that they are not very good against mediocore to Great out of region competition. With Alfred and even Rowan or Alrbight there is the element of the unknown and possibly a false sense of hope come tournament time for the East. We even know about Del Val having had their ass handed to them by now #4 Wesley. So regarding hope and excitement it may just be better to have a Saxon W over the Cardinals. In reality dlip does not give a **** who represents our region because they will eventually get Monkey stomped (hoping dlip is wrong here) in the Quater or Semi-finals. dlip's measure of success here in the East; 1st and 2nd round NCAA victories, **** even making the tourney.

not so sure that dvc had their azzes handed to them by wesley....dvc had 5 turnovers that day w/ 2 of them well into wesley territory as dvc was driving on them....if they were to play again dont think you would see that many errors/mistakes again and a much closer game if not a dvc win. easy on the how bad a stomping wesley put on dvc...

dlippiel

Quote from: uPBRmeASAP on October 21, 2009, 11:57:24 AM
Quote from: dlippiel on October 21, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 21, 2009, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: Ty1983 on October 20, 2009, 01:19:12 PM


Everyone's cards are turned over when it comes to losing to MUC by 50 in the play-offs, reg. season or in Donkey Kong.

Did they turn their cards over against salisbury?  If you say so.  Just call the Fisher SID and let him know Fisher shouldnt bother playing the rest of their games cuz they lost in week 4 on the road in a OOC game that wont affect them as long as they win out going undefeated against all other East competition.   

What the hell is the SID going to do??  Put out a release about the call? 



dlip will be honest here. He has always liked SJF and rooted for them most weeks in region and all the time out of region. Yet he finds himself getting ****ing annoyed with all the SJF bull**** going on. With an Alfred W and them possibly continuing to run the table the East may just get that #1 seed in the Saxons, so dlip may just be pulling for them against SJF. SJF wins and wins out you can definitely open the door for and out of region team (****in MUC). We know SJF can't handle MUC (nor can anyone else) and we know SJF can't handle an off year Salisbury team. Hence, we already know **** about them OOC wise that they are not very good against mediocore to Great out of region competition. With Alfred and even Rowan or Alrbight there is the element of the unknown and possibly a false sense of hope come tournament time for the East. We even know about Del Val having had their ass handed to them by now #4 Wesley. So regarding hope and excitement it may just be better to have a Saxon W over the Cardinals. In reality dlip does not give a **** who represents our region because they will eventually get Monkey stomped (hoping dlip is wrong here) in the Quater or Semi-finals. dlip's measure of success here in the East; 1st and 2nd round NCAA victories, **** even making the tourney.

not so sure that dvc had their azzes handed to them by wesley....dvc had 5 turnovers that day w/ 2 of them well into wesley territory as dvc was driving on them....if they were to play again dont think you would see that many errors/mistakes again and a much closer game if not a dvc win. easy on the how bad a stomping wesley put on dvc...

dlip hears pbr, but dude, when a team turns the ball over 5 ****in times in a game that is part of their performance as well as a prat of the other teams defensive performance. **** the U threw INT's against SLU like it was there job and got lucky to win the game. Yes U made mistakes but SLU deserves credit for causing those turnovers as well. No way would dlip come out and say, "well it shouldn't have been close because of our 5 turnovers... **** why didn't Wesley have 5 turnovers? Del val got beat and in dlip's mind did not seem to be very competitive with Wesley. If they were the score would have been closer.