East Region Fan Poll

[theoriginalupstate]

Regional rankings came out... ???Why even give any East region team a #1 ranking if they are going to ****ing bring someone East for the ****ing tourney. It is really ****ing stupid and ridiculous that even if an East region team runs the table and goes undefeated they will not get a #1 seed in a tourney that should be set by ****ing regions. This is really starting to piss dlip off if you guys couldn't tell. Well come on over MUC; Alfred, Albright, Del Val, Rowan, and everyone else are playing for # 2 in the East because the #1 seed in the East will not be from the east. WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!

I think this has been said before, but the 4 brackets aren't OFFICIALLY named by geographic region.  Yes, it saves on money by having each bracket one segment of the geography, but in general they are trying to pick the 4 best teams as number 1 seeds (ie, the best way they can arrange 4 of the best teams geographically ).

Honestly, if we want it to stop happening, an east team is going to have to do something...ie beat mount union. 

Exactly, think March Madness...

[rams1102]

Gotta agree with Dip. I think as of today the Top 5 teams in the East would fare well in the NCAA'S first couple rounds. Cortland, I think played Mount Union very well last year compared to Mounts other opponents. Within the next 2 weeks we should have a better look at the East. I would hate to see Mount Union come to the East again.

[pg04]

I hate to call anyone out.. and definitely not usually a late entry.  This pollster usually has the most "controversial" poll but I've never seen them defend it. 

[labart96]

pg04 has my last ballot so he would need to confirm, but i noted that the ncaa rankings were very similar to my (maybe not the exact order, but i am pretty sure all the teams listed were on my last) ballot:

East Region
1. Albright 6-0 7-0
2. Alfred 6-0 6-0
3. Delaware Valley 5-0 6-1
4. Kean 6-1 6-1
5. Rowan 6-1 6-1
6. Montclair State 6-1 6-1
7. Springfield 6-1 6-1
8. Lebanon Valley 6-1 6-1
9. Union 5-1 5-2
10. Curry 6-1 6-2

i am pretty sure my 1-5 is the same.  i had union up higher (i think 5 or 6) and i know i def had curry at 10. 

i checked and here was my latest ballot (kind of weird how close):

Albright - same
Alfred - same
DVC - same
Kean - same
Montclair - off by 1
Rowan - off by 1
LVC - off by 1
Sjfc - i still think the cards will beat SC in the e6 finale
Union - same
curry - same

[labart96]

Cortland, I think played Mount Union very well last year compared to Mounts other opponents. 

Compared to who?  MUC beat Hobart, Cortland and Wheaton by pretty similiar (north of 20pt) margins.  And Cortland was the only team to have 0 rushing yards against the Raiders (Hobart had 104 and Wheaton 90).

[rams1102]

Cortland, I think played Mount Union very well last year compared to Mounts other opponents. 

Compared to who?  MUC beat Hobart, Cortland and Wheaton by pretty similiar (north of 20pt) margins.  And Cortland was the only team to have 0 rushing yards against the Raiders (Hobart had 104 and Wheaton 90).

Cortland lost by 27, and Hobart lost by 35. I was refering to East Teams.

[labart96]

Cortland, I think played Mount Union very well last year compared to Mounts other opponents. 

Compared to who?  MUC beat Hobart, Cortland and Wheaton by pretty similiar (north of 20pt) margins.  And Cortland was the only team to have 0 rushing yards against the Raiders (Hobart had 104 and Wheaton 90).

Cortland lost by 27, and Hobart lost by 35. I was refering to East Teams.

Gotcha - I still argue despite the 8 pt scoring differential Hobart hung in there equally as well as the Dragons, but the fact is you guys did score 14 pts and we only scored 7.

[Pat Coleman]

Regional rankings came out... ???Why even give any East region team a #1 ranking if they are going to ****ing bring someone East for the ****ing tourney. It is really ****ing stupid and ridiculous that even if an East region team runs the table and goes undefeated they will not get a #1 seed in a tourney that should be set by ****ing regions. This is really starting to piss dlip off if you guys couldn't tell. Well come on over MUC; Alfred, Albright, Del Val, Rowan, and everyone else are playing for # 2 in the East because the #1 seed in the East will not be from the east. WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!

Nobody said it was the East Region bracket any longer, dlippiel. If the top four teams don't include an East team, then so be it. Get better.

[Pat Coleman]

Gotta agree with Dip. I think as of today the Top 5 teams in the East would fare well in the NCAA'S first couple rounds. 

Gosh, I hope so. I mean, three of them would get home games and they would get lower-seeded teams facing them and all that. They BETTER fare well in the first couple rounds. But that doesn't mean a lot.

[pg04]

Hmm, I wonder if I lost the K for my truthful remark about the eastern region or the truthful remark about the pollster. 

[pg04]

pg04 has my last ballot so he would need to confirm, but i noted that the ncaa rankings were very similar to my (maybe not the exact order, but i am pretty sure all the teams listed were on my last) ballot:

East Region
1. Albright 6-0 7-0
2. Alfred 6-0 6-0
3. Delaware Valley 5-0 6-1
4. Kean 6-1 6-1
5. Rowan 6-1 6-1
6. Montclair State 6-1 6-1
7. Springfield 6-1 6-1
8. Lebanon Valley 6-1 6-1
9. Union 5-1 5-2
10. Curry 6-1 6-2

i am pretty sure my 1-5 is the same.  i had union up higher (i think 5 or 6) and i know i def had curry at 10. 

i checked and here was my latest ballot (kind of weird how close):

Albright - same
Alfred - same
DVC - same
Kean - same
Montclair - off by 1
Rowan - off by 1
LVC - off by 1
Sjfc - i still think the cards will beat SC in the e6 finale
Union - same
curry - same

Yeah sorry I missed your question at first and now was about to answer you and then realized you had already answered it!.  I think most of the sentiment is near what the NCAA has, which I guess kind of validates one process or the other...

[pg04]

Regional rankings came out... ???Why even give any East region team a #1 ranking if they are going to ****ing bring someone East for the ****ing tourney. It is really ****ing stupid and ridiculous that even if an East region team runs the table and goes undefeated they will not get a #1 seed in a tourney that should be set by ****ing regions. This is really starting to piss dlip off if you guys couldn't tell. Well come on over MUC; Alfred, Albright, Del Val, Rowan, and everyone else are playing for # 2 in the East because the #1 seed in the East will not be from the east. WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!

Nobody said it was the East Region bracket any longer, dlippiel. If the top four teams don't include an East team, then so be it. Get better.

I think this was the thesis of my post earlier. 

[Pat Coleman]

Agreed, but I thought it might help if I said it anyway.

[pg04]

Agreed, but I thought it might help if I said it anyway.

That's true -- At first when they imported Mount Union a few years ago the first time, I was fairly upset about it.  However, as time goes by I think it's good.  You want to measure yourself against the best, well here you go.  I think it's a good thing for more eastern teams to get exposure to playing the Purple Raiders.  If gives them sort of a feeling of what the "level of excellence" is to compete for a national championship.    

[dlippiel]

Regional rankings came out... ???Why even give any East region team a #1 ranking if they are going to ****ing bring someone East for the ****ing tourney. It is really ****ing stupid and ridiculous that even if an East region team runs the table and goes undefeated they will not get a #1 seed in a tourney that should be set by ****ing regions. This is really starting to piss dlip off if you guys couldn't tell. Well come on over MUC; Alfred, Albright, Del Val, Rowan, and everyone else are playing for # 2 in the East because the #1 seed in the East will not be from the east. WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!

Nobody said it was the East Region bracket any longer, dlippiel. If the top four teams don't include an East team, then so be it. Get better.

Understood Guru and you are right on with the fact that the East Region teams need to get better and make some noise. The only respect a team should really get is the respect they earn and we know it has been awhile since an Eastern team has really earned that respect in comparison to the top 4-6 teams in the nation. Yet dlip still believes the Brackets should be regional and feels it is annoying that there is always going to be a team "brought into" the East bracket for the tourney. Yet I guess you are right if you are saying there is no East bracket that is fully representative of the East as a whole. If not though then why is that brakcet made up of all eastern teams with the exception of one? Either mix it up or keep the brackets by region! Yet again, dlip will concurr, if an East region team and/or teams really started making noise on a consistent basis in the tourney and OOR games during the season then this would not even be an issue.