East Region Fan Poll

[theoriginalupstate]

I have them in 6th also, they've been impressive early and I have to give them respect for that...

Things change throughout the year though...

Just for the arguements sake, who has Utica looked impressive over?  1-3 Becker, 1-2 Castleton State, 1-2 RPI, or 1-2 Wilkes???

I know they haven't played the best competition but they've been blowing people out and that's what good teams do.  Does that change?  Probably.

[Yanks 99]

I have them in 6th also, they've been impressive early and I have to give them respect for that...

Things change throughout the year though...

Just for the arguements sake, who has Utica looked impressive over?  1-3 Becker, 1-2 Castleton State, 1-2 RPI, or 1-2 Wilkes???

I know they haven't played the best competition but they've been blowing people out and that's what good teams do.  Does that change?  Probably.

I got a feeling that Utica may be on the "other end" of a 78-19 score this week...

[theoriginalupstate]

I have them in 6th also, they've been impressive early and I have to give them respect for that...

Things change throughout the year though...

Just for the arguements sake, who has Utica looked impressive over?  1-3 Becker, 1-2 Castleton State, 1-2 RPI, or 1-2 Wilkes???

I know they haven't played the best competition but they've been blowing people out and that's what good teams do.  Does that change?  Probably.

I got a feeling that Utica may be on the "other end" of a 78-19 score this week...

I predicted a 41-24 score...

They have a legit QB and WR so anything can happen but they don't have the horses on D to stop Fisher enough.  I can see them upsetting some other top E8 schools this year though...

[lewdogg11]

Still looking for a 10th poster.  If anyone's interested, send me a PM.

Week 4 Fan Poll  

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Delaware Valley( 5 )	3-1	85	1	vs. Lebanon Valley
2   St. John Fisher( 4 )	4-0	84	2	at #9 Utica
3   Montclair State	3-0	72	3	at Kean
4   Cortland State	3-0	60	4	at New Jersey
5   Alfred	3-0	58	7	vs. Frostburg State
6   Springfield	3-1	25	8	vs. Merchant Marine
7   Ithaca	3-1	20	5	vs. Hartwick
8   Hobart	2-1	19	6	at St. Lawrence
9   Utica	4-0	18	NR	vs. #2 St. John Fisher
10  Rowan	2-1	17	9	at Buffalo State

Dropped Out:
#10 Curry


Also Receiving votes:              
Lycoming 13
Kean 10
Curry 9
Albright 2
Union 2
SUNY-Maritime 1
                    
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (1,1,1,3,2,2,1,NR,1,2)
St. John Fisher (2,3,2,1,1,1,2,NR,2,1)
Montclair State (3,2,4,2,4,3,3,NR,3,3)
Cortland (4,4,3,5,3,4,5,NR,5,6)
Alfred (5,5,5,4,5,5,4,NR,4,4)
Springfield(8,6,6,10,6,8,10,NR,NR,9)
Ithaca (7,NR,9,8,9,6,8,NR,NR,10)
Hobart (6,NR,NR,NR,7,7,7,NR,9,NR)
Utica (NR,8,10,NR,NR,10,6,NR,7,7)
Rowan (NR,9,7,6,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,5)
Lycoming (NR,10,NR,7,10,9,9,NR,NR,8)
Kean (NR,9,10,NR,10,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Curry (10,NR,8,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,6,NR)
Albright (9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Union (NR,NR,10,9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
SUNY-Maritime (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR)


Key Matchups:
#2 St. John Fisher at #9 Utica
#3 Montclair State at Kean

After a loss at home to Alfred, Springfield moves up 2 spots?  Having trouble getting my mind around how 10 individual pollsters can, as a collective group, shake out that way.

For me, Springfield's loss to Alfred was much more impressive than Ithaca's loss to Lyco or Hobart getting killed by SJF.  It was more or less that Springfield is better than both in my mind, even with a loss.

[Yanks 99]

I have them in 6th also, they've been impressive early and I have to give them respect for that...

Things change throughout the year though...

Just for the arguements sake, who has Utica looked impressive over?  1-3 Becker, 1-2 Castleton State, 1-2 RPI, or 1-2 Wilkes???

I know they haven't played the best competition but they've been blowing people out and that's what good teams do.  Does that change?  Probably.

I got a feeling that Utica may be on the "other end" of a 78-19 score this week...

I predicted a 41-24 score...

They have a legit QB and WR so anything can happen but they don't have the horses on D to stop Fisher enough.  I can see them upsetting some other top E8 schools this year though...

I say 55-31 Fisher...with Fisher easing off the gas just long enough for Utica to punch one or two in at the end during garbage time to give the impression that the game was closer then it really was...

[Knightstalker]

Here is my top ten for this week.  I actually had Springfield and Ithaca move up with losses.

Ranking   Team   Overall   Conf    Pnt for     Pnt agai    Prev wk   Last Game
1   SJF   4-0   0-0   172   73   3   W Hobart 34-14
2   Del Val   2-1   0-0   71   28   1   Inactive
3   Montclair   3-0   2-0   102   13   2   W MoVille St 42-6
4   Cortland   3-0   3-0   104   19   4   W WConn 42-10
5   Alfred   3-0   1-0   96   44   6   W Sprfld 35-28
6   Ithaca   3-1   0-0   116   56   7   W Widenor 31-7
7   Hobart   2-1   0-0   87   62   5   L SJF 14-34
8   Springfie   3-1   0-1   154   49   8   L Alfred 28-35
9   Lyco   2-1   0-0   83   58   10   W Ithaca 26-24
10   Utica   4-0   0-0   203   72   12   W Wilkes 24-10


I dropped Rowan out, they just are not impressing me enough.  Utica may drop but they have started great and I am giving them some credit for the start.  SJF jumped to first due to a convincing win against a good team, possibly the best in the LL.

[SJFF82]

We now have 10 voters, so here is the updated poll (with DelVal's record corrected in time for the "Battle of the Valleys"):

UPDATED Week 4 Fan Poll  

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Delaware Valley( 6 )	2-1	95	1	vs. Lebanon Valley
2   St. John Fisher( 4 )	4-0	93	2	at #9 Utica
3   Montclair State	3-0	79	3	at Kean
T4  Alfred	3-0	66	7	vs. Frostburg State
T4  Cortland State	3-0	66	4	at New Jersey
6   Springfield	3-1	29	8	vs. Merchant Marine
7   Utica	4-0	23	NR	vs. #2 St. John Fisher
8   Ithaca	3-1	21	5	vs. Hartwick
9   Rowan	2-1	20	9	at Buffalo State
10  Hobart	2-1	19	6	at St. Lawrence

Dropped Out:
#10 Curry


Also Receiving votes:              
Lycoming 15
Kean 10
Curry 9
Albright 2
Union 2
SUNY-Maritime 1
                    
            
Voting Distribution:            

Delaware Valley (1,1,1,3,2,2,1,1,1,2)
St. John Fisher (2,3,2,1,1,1,2,2,2,1)
Montclair State (3,2,4,2,4,3,3,4,3,3)
Alfred (5,5,5,4,5,5,4,3,4,4)
Cortland (4,4,3,5,3,4,5,5,5,6)
Springfield(8,6,6,10,6,8,10,7,NR,9)
Utica (NR,8,10,NR,NR,10,6,6,7,7)
Ithaca (7,NR,9,8,9,6,8,10,NR,10)
Rowan (NR,9,7,6,NR,NR,NR,8,NR,5)
Hobart (6,NR,NR,NR,7,7,7,NR,9,NR)
Lycoming (NR,10,NR,7,10,9,9,9,NR,8)
Kean (NR,9,10,NR,10,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Curry (10,NR,8,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,6,NR)
Albright (9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Union (NR,NR,10,9,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR)
SUNY-Maritime (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10,NR)


Key Matchups:
#2 St. John Fisher at #7 Utica
#3 Montclair State at Kean

Wow...I know Utica sounds like Ithaca, but, man, are they really a better football team already?  I demand a recount and request all voters to verify they did not confuse the two schools that kinda, sorta, but not really sound alike.

[theoriginalupstate]

82, if Ithaca doesn't get their run game on track they're going to drop a couple more.  I wouldn't be surprised if UC took out IC this year.  It's going to happen eventually and with the injuries and inconsistencies on the IC squad this may be the year.

[SJFF82]

82, if Ithaca doesn't get their run game on track they're going to drop a couple more.  I wouldn't be surprised if UC took out IC this year.  It's going to happen eventually and with the injuries and inconsistencies on the IC squad this may be the year.

I gotcha....I have posted this year that Utica looks strong, so they are on 'my' radar....I just cant imagine that a school in Utica, NY, virtually unheard of (sorry FA91) may apparently be out-recruiting Ithaca and all its tradition (i mean that seriously and as a compliment to Ithaca). 

If it is true as you predict....and we chalk it up to Faggiano's coaching and recruiting skills....then it is only logical that they will also catch Fisher in the near future.  Utica will be to Fisher what Fisher was to Ithaca, when out of know where Fisher 'Caught' them. 

[theoriginalupstate]

82, if Ithaca doesn't get their run game on track they're going to drop a couple more.  I wouldn't be surprised if UC took out IC this year.  It's going to happen eventually and with the injuries and inconsistencies on the IC squad this may be the year.

I gotcha....I have posted this year that Utica looks strong, so they are on 'my' radar....I just cant imagine that a school in Utica, NY, virtually unheard of (sorry FA91) may apparently be out-recruiting Ithaca and all its tradition (i mean that seriously and as a compliment to Ithaca). 

If it is true as you predict....and we chalk it up to Faggiano's coaching and recruiting skills....then it is only logical that they will also catch Fisher in the near future.  Utica will be to Fisher what Fisher was to Ithaca, when out of know where Fisher 'Caught' them. 

It's just a matter of time before UC catches SJF.

[dlippiel]

For me, Springfield's loss to Alfred was much more impressive than Ithaca's loss to Lyco or Hobart getting killed by SJF.  It was more or less that Springfield is better than both in my mind, even with a loss.

dlip agrees at this point in the year. the only thing that bothers dlip is that Sprinfield's loss came at home.

[fisheralum91]

Jeez 82 I only live in Utica. My heart bleeds cardinal!
Ill be at the UC game- hope you have time to cime down!
Ill save a cold UC for ya!

[Yanks 99]

Jeez 82 I only live in Utica. My heart bleeds cardinal!
Ill be at the UC game- hope you have time to cime down!
Ill save a cold UC for ya!

I would kill to go to that game...Cavallo's wings sound fantastic right now!!!

[Bombers798891]

82, if Ithaca doesn't get their run game on track they're going to drop a couple more.  I wouldn't be surprised if UC took out IC this year.  It's going to happen eventually and with the injuries and inconsistencies on the IC squad this may be the year.

I gotcha....I have posted this year that Utica looks strong, so they are on 'my' radar....I just cant imagine that a school in Utica, NY, virtually unheard of (sorry FA91) may apparently be out-recruiting Ithaca and all its tradition (i mean that seriously and as a compliment to Ithaca). 

If it is true as you predict....and we chalk it up to Faggiano's coaching and recruiting skills....then it is only logical that they will also catch Fisher in the near future.  Utica will be to Fisher what Fisher was to Ithaca, when out of know where Fisher 'Caught' them. 

It's just a matter of time before UC catches SJF.

Respectfully, how much of Fisher's success can be attributed to the Bills' moving their and improving the facilities? Obviously Vos is a great coach and has outcoached Welch the last four years, and that helps. But Fisher has better athletes than Ithaca, and it's probably not a coincidence that that started happening once those early recruits from 2000, 2001, 2002 started maturing and becoming juniors and seniors.

Heck. Cortland got a brand spanking new facility in 2002 and they started getting better right at that time.

Fisher deserves all their success, but they had a recruiting draw that Utica does not. I don't think Utica will pass Ithaca in the near future, but if they do, I think it will be similar to how Buffalo State did it in the mid 90's. I was (obviously) not a recruited athlete, so I don't know what attracts a D-III athlete--outside of the academics--but I would suspect facilities help a lot.

[fisheralum91]

Yanks, 82, Dew
the invite is open!