East Region Fan Poll

Started by pg04, July 05, 2007, 09:44:54 PM

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pg04

Am I correct in thinking that Salisbury would not be in the discussion, even though the exist within the E8 now?  I ask because I could see some putting Salisbury in a top 10. 

rams1102

If they are in the E8 they should be in the East, IMHO. I will have them in my Top 10 Poll.
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pg04

Quote from: rams1102 on August 12, 2011, 08:52:33 PM
If they are in the E8 they should be in the East, IMHO. I will have them in my Top 10 Poll.

I guess we should wait for "official" word, since some of us can't ignore them while others put them on.  I would go the other way on this.

dlippiel

Quote from: pg04 on August 12, 2011, 08:57:17 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on August 12, 2011, 08:52:33 PM
If they are in the E8 they should be in the East, IMHO. I will have them in my Top 10 Poll.

I guess we should wait for "official" word, since some of us can't ignore them while others put them on.  I would go the other way on this.

Yeah dlip would assume that if they are a member of an East Region conference that they would be considered an east region team. Yet we all know what happens when we assume   ;D. Frank do you have any thoughts or info on this?

Frank Rossi

All games against E8 opponents are considered "in region" for NCAA purposes for Salisbury and Frostburg as they are members of the E8.  However, for geographic purposes, Salisbury and Frostburg remain as members of the South Region.  This is much like when Susquehanna came into the Liberty League -- the team was not eligible for ECAC bowls and was not up for consideration for the Lambert Poll put together by the ECAC.  If Susquehanna was included in the old poll and the aim is to include only "East Region" teams, then that was a mistake and probably shouldn't be repeated by including Salisbury and Frostburg in the poll.  However, if you prefer to look at the poll as a measure of teams in the six Pool A East Region conferences and any independent teams in the Region, then I would include the outliers.  Personally, because it would cause oddities to ignore them if one of them won the E8, I'd make the poll conference-centric instead of team-centric (by including Salisbury and Frostburg).

pg04

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I've always thought of it geographically and in the confines of how this website defines a team on the main website.  Darn you gulls  :P

Frank Rossi

Understood, although we know that the people that have put it together have tended to try to get a cross-section of voters not just across teams, but across conferences.  So, if it's a conference-centric view, then it makes more sense to include the two South teams solely for the purpose of comparing the best of the teams in each conference.

Knightstalker

I have to actually agree with a lawyer here.   ;D  For the purposes of this poll I say we include Salisbury and Frostburg as they are playing in an east region conference.

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AUKaz00

I think they should be considered as well, just as Sasquatch was when they were in the LL.

Also, we're still short 2 to 4 voters since I haven't heard from everyone and lost a couple to PP attrition. Send me a PM if you're interested and I'll start seeking out active posters from underrepresented leagues.
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Jonny Utah

Quote from: AUKaz00 on August 15, 2011, 12:00:01 PM
I think they should be considered as well, just as Sasquatch was when they were in the LL.

Also, we're still short 2 to 4 voters since I haven't heard from everyone and lost a couple to PP attrition. Send me a PM if you're interested and I'll start seeking out active posters from underrepresented leagues.

I am in.  Just sent you a PM, let me know if you did/didn't get it.

AUKaz00

We're all set with 10 pollsters.  Thanks to everyone for returning and welcome to the two new pollsters.  We have a little better distribution this year with 3 reps from the E8, LL and NJAC (sorta) and one from the NEFC.  Look for the first ERFP on the 29th.

And Utah, I still can't PM you though I did get your message.
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AZDutchman

Quote from: AUKaz00 on August 17, 2011, 10:45:12 AM
We're all set with 10 pollsters.  Thanks to everyone for returning and welcome to the two new pollsters.  We have a little better distribution this year with 3 reps from the E8, LL and NJAC (sorta) and one from the NEFC.  Look for the first ERFP on the 29th.

And Utah, I still can't PM you though I did get your message.

and one from the NEFC....
That would be me. I'm looking forward to joining in on the Eastern Conferences. My son will be playing for MIT this fall.
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AZDutchman

Questions??

A little more detail on Salisbury and Frostburg. I don't see them in the Eastern Conferences?

Sasquatch was or still are in LL? I didn't see them either?

NEFC Bogan and Boyd? Just a matter of two different conferences?
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lewdogg11

Quote from: AZDutchman on August 17, 2011, 02:45:12 PM
Questions??

A little more detail on Salisbury and Frostburg. I don't see them in the Eastern Conferences?

Sasquatch was or still are in LL? I didn't see them either?

NEFC Bogan and Boyd? Just a matter of two different conferences?

Salisbury and Frostburg are new to the E8.  Technically they are South teams, but we are including them in this poll.

Susquehanna is gone.  Ignore them.

NEFC is 1 big conference with 2 Divisions.  Both suck.  Will be lucky to have 1 team in the poll all year.

softballrz

The NEFC sucks!  Really.  Those are the words of someone who is responible to rate the east objectively.  This person should be removed.

Please note, last fall Endicott scored more points on SUNY Courtland then any other school has in years!