East Region Fan Poll

[pg04]

Unfortunately, If Salisbury ran the table they'd likely be put as the #1 seed in the bracket housing the southern teams, so it probably wouldn't help the east in the slightest.  I still also have my objection of placing Salisbury in this poll to begin with. 

[dlippiel]

Unfortunately, If Salisbury ran the table they'd likely be put as the #1 seed in the bracket housing the southern teams, so it probably wouldn't help the east in the slightest.  I still also have my objection of placing Salisbury in this poll to begin with.

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dlip didn't even think of the possibility that Salisbury is still considered to be in the South Region. Are they? Could they be placed in the East Region Bracket (dlip knows tha even though the barackets are labeled by region they are not regional)? dlip knows we discussed this once but does not remember the specifics.

pg.04 dlip disagrees with you here. If a team participates in an Eastern Region conference than he feels they should be considered, "i region," regardless if the affiliation is temporary. Just two opposing thoughts here is all.

[pg04]

I am not entirely certain what they are according to the NCAA.  However, travel considerations in the playoffs would likely place them with south region teams in the playoffs, but then again, Salisbury could be seen as an alternative to moving Mount Union. 

[pg04]

Of course I think the gulls will probably lose at least twice, given Wesley and the E8 powers.  But still if they went undefeated, they should definitely be a #1 seed somewhere...

[Frank Rossi]

Salisbury is still a South Region team for NCAA purposes.  However, that doesn't require the Committee to lock the Gulls into a South-centric bracket.

[gordonmann]

Especially a south region bracket that could have a lot of undefeated teams: Mary Hardin-Baylor, Thomas More, Johns Hopkins and three SCAC teams all have shots to finish undefeated.

[Bombers798891]

Well, is Kean ahead of Cortland now?

[pumkinattack]

You would think by the midpoint of the season, body of work would matter more than record.  Of course, in the D3 poll Alfred (yes, they lost some points this week) is still ranked after two weeks that suggest that they aren't a top 25 team.  That's probably due more to a lack of actual inspection of the East which I suspect is being done by some.   

[clandfan]

only hypothetical point i will argue in this discussion is that in no way should cortland have lost to rowan.  i didnt need to see the live video, i saw the game live and cortland took over in the second half and dominated.  the score is only close due to the late rowan td.  head to head matters, but if you look at the national pool, wesley has jumped back over kean.  is wesley better, from what i saw live there is no doubt, but the scoreboard says otherwise.  is cortland likely better than kean, from what i saw live i believe so, but the scoreboard says otherwise.  is delval better than kean, from what i saw live i also believe so.  in the end this is all opinion which makes it fun.  as you can tell i have no dog in this east argument, but if kean is the top team in the east at they end they will have run the table against some pretty good teams and will have earned it , opinions be damned.

Wesleydad...you are far too wise to jump into this fray.  Let's see where this stands at the end of the season. 
I have seen Buff St., Kean, Rowan and Montclair this season...most of these pontificators probably havent seen 1/2 of them or perhaps seen any of them.  Scoreboard wise...Kean is at the top with Montclair. Montclair is a better team, assuming Fischer is healthy...I haven't heard what his injury was.  I can tell you that if not for two plays....two plays, Cortland would be undefeated.  But polls are based on records so Cortland drops, it is what it is but I will put my dog in battle (oops, Sorry Michael Vick) over any of these other mentioned teams any time.  I give Kean credit for digging deep and finding ways to win but talent-wise, they may be 4th best.  They are overrated with a W/L record that doesn't tell the whole story.  Can't prove it...just my opinion having actually seen all play.  The truth will be told by season's end.  Back to my depression over the late loss to montclair...see ya.

[rams1102]

only hypothetical point i will argue in this discussion is that in no way should cortland have lost to rowan.  i didnt need to see the live video, i saw the game live and cortland took over in the second half and dominated.  the score is only close due to the late rowan td.  head to head matters, but if you look at the national pool, wesley has jumped back over kean.  is wesley better, from what i saw live there is no doubt, but the scoreboard says otherwise.  is cortland likely better than kean, from what i saw live i believe so, but the scoreboard says otherwise.  is delval better than kean, from what i saw live i also believe so.  in the end this is all opinion which makes it fun.  as you can tell i have no dog in this east argument, but if kean is the top team in the east at they end they will have run the table against some pretty good teams and will have earned it , opinions be damned.

Wesleydad...you are far too wise to jump into this fray.  Let's see where this stands at the end of the season. 
I have seen Buff St., Kean, Rowan and Montclair this season...most of these pontificators probably havent seen 1/2 of them or perhaps seen any of them.  Scoreboard wise...Kean is at the top with Montclair. Montclair is a better team, assuming Fischer is healthy...I haven't heard what his injury was.  I can tell you that if not for two plays....two plays, Cortland would be undefeated.  But polls are based on records so Cortland drops, it is what it is but I will put my dog in battle (oops, Sorry Michael Vick) over any of these other mentioned teams any time.  I give Kean credit for digging deep and finding ways to win but talent-wise, they may be 4th best.  They are overrated with a W/L record that doesn't tell the whole story.  Can't prove it...just my opinion having actually seen all play.  The truth will be told by season's end.  Back to my depression over the late loss to montclair...see ya.

Tough loss. I still remember the ride home last year from Cortland. I sure would not want to be W.Conn this Sautrday. I agree 100% with your above post.

[wesleydad]

clandfan, havent been accused of being too wise in some time.  i have to jump into some fray since there is little to talk about over on the wesley board.  I am glad to hear that someone else is also basing their opinion on what they saw.  i do agree with you on kean, gritty team winning games anyway they can, but they are not a top 10 team.  in the end i am glad that it will get played out and not based on some computer numbers.  since i live in southern pa, it is easy for me to get to plenty of east games and i like the njac, they will at least play wesley.  the njac will be very interesting the rest of the way.  if it plays out, i will certainly be heading to montclaire for the game against kean the last week of the season.  some nice games at the end for me, wesley-salisbury, st john fisher - salisbury, and then kean-montclaire.

[clandfan]

Rams, would rather have lost 31-14 than to comeback and lose like that.  I'm happy with our offense.  Our depth at RB has been great.  That kid sat is our 3rd back, now #2 with Autera out for season.  Pitcher is playing well and has some weapons at WR. Just ashame for us that first we drop the INT and then we let that kid get behind us in that situation.  Defensive lapses for sure.   Any word on Fischer?

[dlippiel]

clandfan, havent been accused of being too wise in some time.  i have to jump into some fray since there is little to talk about over on the wesley board.  I am glad to hear that someone else is also basing their opinion on what they saw.  i do agree with you on kean, gritty team winning games anyway they can, but they are not a top 10 team.  in the end i am glad that it will get played out and not based on some computer numbers.  since i live in southern pa, it is easy for me to get to plenty of east games and i like the njac, they will at least play wesley.  the njac will be very interesting the rest of the way.  if it plays out, i will certainly be heading to montclaire for the game against kean the last week of the season.  some nice games at the end for me, wesley-salisbury, st john fisher - salisbury, and then kean-montclaire

Wesleydad dlip can say he puts stock in what you say. He is unable to get to many games aside from union but tends to be a stat follower. Input like yours, from sources that dlip feels are legit, sometimes are what drives team placements in polls. You are an excellent addition to the east boards. Thanks!

[RedDragonFan]

Rams, would rather have lost 31-14 than to comeback and lose like that.  I'm happy with our offense.  Our depth at RB has been great.  That kid sat is our 3rd back, now #2 with Autera out for season.  Pitcher is playing well and has some weapons at WR. Just ashame for us that first we drop the INT and then we let that kid get behind us in that situation.  Defensive lapses for sure.   Any word on Fischer?

Agree that the defense gave up big plays particularly the last pass to get MSU into fieldgoal range but the offense also had issues.  We took the lead on the safety with under 5 minutes to go and of course we get the ball back.  The offense has to be able to move the ball and kill the clock in that situation and just didn't get it done.  The final offensive play for Cortland was a 3rd and maybe 12 thanks to an penalty and MSU stuffing the run on the first 2 downs.  Pitcher throws to Green 2 yards down field.  Might as well have handed it off to him.  The play had no chance of getting the needed yardage.  Then on top of the offense not getting it done, we get like a 25 or 30 yard punt that goes out of bounds around the 25.  In addition, MSU fumbled 5-6 times and Cortland only came up with the ball once maybe.

I too believe Cortland is a better team than their record indicates but it is what it is at this point.

[rams1102]

Rams, would rather have lost 31-14 than to comeback and lose like that.  I'm happy with our offense.  Our depth at RB has been great.  That kid sat is our 3rd back, now #2 with Autera out for season.  Pitcher is playing well and has some weapons at WR. Just ashame for us that first we drop the INT and then we let that kid get behind us in that situation.  Defensive lapses for sure.   Any word on Fischer?

Nothing on Fisher yet. We will see. Pitcher was very impressive. This is a crazy game, what would the score of been if Fisher was not hurt? I guess thats why we play the game. Good luck, the balance of the year.