East Region Fan Poll

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Yanks 99

Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
Everywhere, but the d3 fan poll.

Congrats Endicott...you are 7-0, and yet as far as I can tell since 2003 (in what I believe was your first year of Varsity football as a Division 3 school) you have never beaten...ever...any school outside of the NEFC or ECFC.  I will say it again...ever. 

0-12 all time against schools not in the NEFC or ECFC .  0-9 against the LL, 0-2 against the E-8, and 0-1 against the NJAC.  Anyone that is a D3 football fan knows that the NEFC and the ECFC are generally considered two of the probably four or five weakest D3 football leagues in all of Division 3.  But it's ok...keep complaining about not being ranked in some D3 Boards fan poll and demanding some respect...good move...
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

lewdogg11

Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 19, 2011, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
Everywhere, but the d3 fan poll.

Congrats Endicott...you are 7-0, and yet as far as I can tell since 2003 (in what I believe was your first year of Varsity football as a Division 3 school) you have never beaten...ever...any school outside of the NEFC or ECFC.  I will say it again...ever. 

0-12 all time against schools not in the NEFC or ECFC .  0-9 against the LL, 0-2 against the E-8, and 0-1 against the NJAC.  Anyone that is a D3 football fan knows that the NEFC and the ECFC are generally considered two of the probably four or five weakest D3 football leagues in all of Division 3.  But it's ok...keep complaining about not being ranked in some D3 Boards fan poll and demanding some respect...good move...

But they scored 28 in the second half against Cortland last year.

Yanks 99

Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 19, 2011, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 19, 2011, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
Everywhere, but the d3 fan poll.

Congrats Endicott...you are 7-0, and yet as far as I can tell since 2003 (in what I believe was your first year of Varsity football as a Division 3 school) you have never beaten...ever...any school outside of the NEFC or ECFC.  I will say it again...ever. 

0-12 all time against schools not in the NEFC or ECFC .  0-9 against the LL, 0-2 against the E-8, and 0-1 against the NJAC.  Anyone that is a D3 football fan knows that the NEFC and the ECFC are generally considered two of the probably four or five weakest D3 football leagues in all of Division 3.  But it's ok...keep complaining about not being ranked in some D3 Boards fan poll and demanding some respect...good move...

But they scored 28 in the second half against Cortland last year.

And don't forget LD that they "were excited" and down by 21 "before they settled down".  Imagine if they weren't excited?  Cortland dodged a bullet there...
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

SJFF82

Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 19, 2011, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 19, 2011, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Yanks 99 on October 19, 2011, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
Everywhere, but the d3 fan poll.

Congrats Endicott...you are 7-0, and yet as far as I can tell since 2003 (in what I believe was your first year of Varsity football as a Division 3 school) you have never beaten...ever...any school outside of the NEFC or ECFC.  I will say it again...ever. 

0-12 all time against schools not in the NEFC or ECFC .  0-9 against the LL, 0-2 against the E-8, and 0-1 against the NJAC.  Anyone that is a D3 football fan knows that the NEFC and the ECFC are generally considered two of the probably four or five weakest D3 football leagues in all of Division 3.  But it's ok...keep complaining about not being ranked in some D3 Boards fan poll and demanding some respect...good move...

But they scored 28 in the second half against Cortland last year.

And don't forget LD that they "were excited" and down by 21 "before they settled down".  Imagine if they weren't excited?   Cortland dodged a bullet there...

funny

softballrz

How does 6 words create so much anger toward one school that has only fielded a football team for eight years?

Are you all "fans of Obama" where one persons opinon is welcomed only if it agrees with yours and all others are nonsence.

A side note about last falls Endicott/Cortland game.  The Gulls scored 35 points!  One more then Alfred did last fall and Montclair State this fall against the Cortland "mighty D".  Means nothing, just like three year old stats.

SJFF82

#3501
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 18, 2011, 02:49:46 PM
Let me be more blunt about the Cortland effect:

2010:

9/11 at Kean * •  W, 24-12  BX RC 
9/18 vs. Buffalo State * •  W, 35-7  BX RC 
9/25 at Western Connecticut * •  W, 45-0  BX RC 
10/2 at New Jersey * •  W, 37-0  BX RC 
10/9 vs. Brockport State * •  W, 35-0  BX RC 
10/16 at Rowan * •  L, 20-17   
10/23 at Morrisville State * •  W, 42-6  BX 
10/30 vs. Montclair State * •  W, 10-9  BX RC 
11/6 vs. William Paterson * •  W, 38-7  BX RC 
11/13 vs. Ithaca •  W, 20-17  BX RC 
11/20 vs. Endicott  W, 49-35  BX RC 
11/27 vs. Alfred  L, 34-20  BX RC RC 

2011:

9/3 vs. Buffalo State * •  W, 28-12  BX RC 
9/17 vs. Kean * •  L, 21-16  BX RC RC 
9/24 at Rowan * •  W, 31-28  BX RC 
10/1 vs. Morrisville State * •  W, 55-14  BX RC 
10/8 at Montclair State * •  L, 34-33  BX RC 
10/15 at Western Connecticut * •  W, 56-10  BX 

We're not just talking about 2 plays, and even if Cortland were undefeated, I would not be feeling comfortable about making a statement that the team is better than or as good as they were in 2010.  The team has taken a step back this year, and the scores alone are pointing to that, let alone the W/L record.  I am not impressed by the body of work so far, even if we were talking about a 5-1 team right now.  Montclair has not won impressively for the most part, but their play has been a helluva lot more consistent than this list of games shows.

look pretty similar to me.....beat Buff State handily both years
                                     beat Rowan  by 3 this year vs a 3 pt loss last year
                                     trounced M-ville again
                                     another 1 pt game w/ Montclair....albeit a loss this time
                                     trounced West Conn again

....only real difference is the Kean game...but Kean was undefeated and number 1 in the poll up till this week, and they did beat Wesley

Yes the record includes 2 losses, but that is the known factor in this equation.  The question is what is the effect of those losses and what is the quality of Cortland DESPITE those 2 losses. Using yuor post Frank to answer the question and it appears the answer is they are still a pretty darn good team. 

Plus clandfan says they are as good or better, and I take some value from that even though he is in tank for them.

...I rest my case....rebuttal?  ;)

lewdogg11

Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 12:52:07 PM
How does 6 words create so much anger toward one school that has only fielded a football team for eight years?

Are you all "fans of Obama" where one persons opinon is welcomed only if it agrees with yours and all others are nonsence.

A side note about last falls Endicott/Cortland game.  The Gulls scored 35 points!  One more then Alfred did last fall and Montclair State this fall against the Cortland "mighty D".  Means nothing, just like three year old stats.

You Endicott guys are thick.  No one has any anger towards Endicott.  Just the garbage spewed out of their few posters' mouths.  Root for them.  Be proud of them.  Cheer them on.  But don't come crying for respect.  It takes a while to earn it, and you guys can't seem to understand that.

And yes, scoring 35 against Cortland last year means nothing.  It was 42-14 with less than 10 minutes to go in the game.  It was a blowout.  Scoring points or losing close games in the playoffs doesn't do much for you.  Winning games does.


SJFF82

Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 12:52:07 PM
How does 6 words create so much anger toward one school that has only fielded a football team for eight years?

Are you all "fans of Obama" where one persons opinon is welcomed only if it agrees with yours and all others are nonsence.

A side note about last falls Endicott/Cortland game.  The Gulls scored 35 points!  One more then Alfred did last fall and Montclair State this fall against the Cortland "mighty D".  Means nothing, just like three year old stats.

actually "d3" is not a word, it is a slang abbreviation for division III football, so it was really only about 5 words that generated "so much anger"...and it wasn't really those 5 words per se, but rather it was the perception that you create that you think that Endicott is superior to some teams in the East despite offering no logical explanation for your opinion.

Not even being an Endicott supporter, I did recently offer a post in defense of Endicott...you should go find, read it (it has more than 5 words though, so be careful) and come back with some intelligent thoughts on why you feel Endicott should not be called "Dem Spicy Girlz"....

Yanks 99

#3504
Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 12:52:07 PM
How does 6 words create so much anger toward one school that has only fielded a football team for eight years?

Are you all "fans of Obama" where one persons opinon is welcomed only if it agrees with yours and all others are nonsence.

A side note about last falls Endicott/Cortland game.  The Gulls scored 35 points!  One more then Alfred did last fall and Montclair State this fall against the Cortland "mighty D".  Means nothing, just like three year old stats.

The 35 points scored is a tired argument.  Everyone else seems to realize it was 42-14 late in the 4th and Cortland called the dogs off.  Why would they keep pressing with their starters at that point and risk an injury knowing they were moving on to the second round?  And Endicott didn't score 35 against the Cortland "might D".  Endicott went from 14 to 28 on a fumble return for a TD and a pick 6 late.  But congrats on pulling it together for that final offensive and meaningless TD with 30 seconds to go...
Hartwick College 2007 Empire 8 Champions

Upstate

Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 12:52:07 PM
How does 6 words create so much anger toward one school that has only fielded a football team for eight years?

Because you're a douchebag...

Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 12:52:07 PMAre you all "fans of Obama" where one persons opinon is welcomed only if it agrees with yours and all others are nonsence.

No, it's just that you are completely oblivious to the fact that your conference has been full of suck for a long time.  How many NCAA wins has that conference had this past decade?

Two? Both by Curry I believe, correct me if I'm wrong.


Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 12:52:07 PMA side note about last falls Endicott/Cortland game.  The Gulls scored 35 points!  One more then Alfred did last fall and Montclair State this fall against the Cortland "mighty D".  Means nothing, just like three year old stats.

Come on now, it's not like the Endicott offense scored 35 vs the Cortland D.  Endicott got two defensive scores after it became 42-14 in a 5 minute span to make it a somewhat competitive game.

Your conference is weak until proven otherwise.
The views expressed in the above post do not represent the views of St. John Fisher College, their athletic department, their coaching staff or their players. I am an over zealous antagonist that does not have any current connection to the institution I attended.

SJFF82

Quote from: Timeforachange on October 19, 2011, 01:10:34 PM
Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 12:52:07 PM
How does 6 words create so much anger toward one school that has only fielded a football team for eight years?

Because you're a douchebag...


...well at least you changed your name.... ;)

Jonny Utah

Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
Everywhere, but the d3 fan poll.

I gotta admit, Endicott is not the best team in the east, but softballrz post kind of made a funny point. 

Lighten up pollsters.

SJFF82

Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on October 19, 2011, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: softballrz on October 19, 2011, 11:19:43 AM
Everywhere, but the d3 fan poll.

I gotta admit, Endicott is not the best team in the east, but softballrz post kind of made a funny point. 

Lighten up pollsters.


well good thing you came clean with that admission.  Any other 'suprises' you got for us?   ;D

rams1102

#3509
            D3            AFCA             ERFP #3            ERFP           D3 Fan Poll            1.Montclair     Montclair         Montclair          Salisbury          Montclair   
2.     Del Val        Del Val             Salisbury          Montclair        Salisbury
3.     Salisbury     Salisbury          Del Val             Del Val           Del Val
4.     Kean           Kean                Fisher              Hobart             Kean
5.     Hobart        Endicott            Hobart            Fisher               Cortland
6.     Cortland     Cortland            Kean               Kean                Hobart
7.     Leb Val        Hobart             Cortland          Cortland           Fisher
8.     Endicott      Fisher               Lycoming         Widner            Endicott
9.     Fisher         Lycoming          Leb Val            Lycoming             "
10.   Rowan                                Endicott           Leb Val                "

Now you have an interesting cross section of the East from the above polls. Now there are (4) games left. As a Montclair fan this week at TCNJ will not be easy due to the rilvery and time to make a statement, then W.Conn at home.Tthe last (2) games which will most likley tell the tale of the NJAC. Rowan away and Kean home. There is no love lost here. ::) The winner of the NJAC will definitely be ready for the playoffs. It starts now. ;D

It ain't over till it's over, and when you get to the fork in the road, take it.