East Region Fan Poll

[Frank Rossi]

I guess I should be clear:  I'm not saying that the AFCA poll is unreliable or anything.  That's for others to determine.  However, it's always easiest to pick the poll that makes your team look best.

God didn't intend for us to be able to just pick polls... We get one and have to defend it for our lifetime.

[pg04]

Ugh.

[Frank Rossi]

Ugh.

Tension breaker... Had to do it...

[rams1102]

I guess I should be clear:  I'm not saying that the AFCA poll is unreliable or anything.  That's for others to determine.  However, it's always easiest to pick the poll that makes your team look best.

Both National Polls have Montclair ahead of Salisbury and the D3 Fan Poll has it the same way. What does that mean? It actually means that you play the games and when the regular season is over we will see. Nuff said.

[pg04]

OK?   :

[dlippiel]

Honestly dlip does not put a whole lot of stock in the AFCA poll. pg.04 is correct IDHO regarding the fact that most coaches at the d3 level dont spend time studying teams they dont play. Many of us on the other hand kind of obsess over this stuff. Dlip is a box score and recap hound. Does he know other teams better than some coaches? Who knows, all he knows is he spends a **** load of time reading about and studying d3 football, which is at least more than any casual d3 fan does. He assumes many others on here are as ****ed up as he is, love the game, the level, the athletes, and the teams that play it. Dlip doesn't necessarily put tons of stock in his erfp, but from his time on these boards respects the **** out of thd fan pollsters and the conclusions they come to whether it favors dlios team or not.

[rams1102]

Honestly dlip does not put a whole lot of stock in the AFCA poll. pg.04 is correct IDHO regarding the fact that most coaches at the d3 level dont spend time studying teams they dont play. Many of us on the other hand kind of obsess over this stuff. Dlip is a box score and recap hound. Does he know other teams better than some coaches? Who knows, all he knows is he spends a **** load of time reading about and studying d3 football, which is at least more than any casual d3 fan does. He assumes many others on here are as ****ed up as he is, love the game, the level, the athletes, and the teams that play it. Dlip doesn't necessarily put tons of stock in his erfp, but from his time on these boards respects the **** out of thd fan pollsters and the conclusions they come to whether it favors dlios team or not.

Just back from standing in my back yard with my dog in the rain. In any event I agree with you. You are a D3 Wacko and I'm not far behind, but you played and I did not. As a Montclair fan, most posters don't give them enough respect. Sometimes we earn it. I did not have Montclair #1 all year with the exception of last week. After Kean stubbed their toe last week against B-Port, which they should have won, sorry PG but a nice win, it was time to put Montclair #1 in the East for my Poll. You can also argue that Salisbury should be #1 and nobody could argue except every other national Poll. To be honest I felt sorry for the Endicott supporters and decided to chime in at the expense of my Red Hawls. We fight for our lives at work every day and I enjoy the fun of D3 Football. Thanks.

[pg04]

This is why I took myself out of the poll.  I felt like I couldn't spend the time it deserved, and obviously you guys give the time to really research and think about where teams should be placed.  +K to you both. 

[Bombers798891]

I guess I should be clear:  I'm not saying that the AFCA poll is unreliable or anything.  That's for others to determine.  However, it's always easiest to pick the poll that makes your team look best.

Both National Polls have Montclair ahead of Salisbury and the D3 Fan Poll has it the same way. What does that mean? It actually means that you play the games and when the regular season is over we will see. Nuff said.

Clearly, we should shut down the boards till November then. After all, what's the point in talking until we have played all the games?

[AUPepBand]

I guess I should be clear:  I'm not saying that the AFCA poll is unreliable or anything.  That's for others to determine.  However, it's always easiest to pick the poll that makes your team look best.

Both National Polls have Montclair ahead of Salisbury and the D3 Fan Poll has it the same way. What does that mean? It actually means that you play the games and when the regular season is over we will see. Nuff said.

Clearly, we should shut down the boards till November then. After all, what's the point in talking until we have played all the games?

Bombers, you're right. Nothing to talk about until December at the earliest. Pep hereby disconnects his keyboard........On Saxon Warriors!

[rams1102]

I guess I should be clear:  I'm not saying that the AFCA poll is unreliable or anything.  That's for others to determine.  However, it's always easiest to pick the poll that makes your team look best.

Both National Polls have Montclair ahead of Salisbury and the D3 Fan Poll has it the same way. What does that mean? It actually means that you play the games and when the regular season is over we will see. Nuff said.

Clearly, we should shut down the boards till November then. After all, what's the point in talking until we have played all the games?

Bombers, you're right. Nothing to talk about until December at the earliest. Pep hereby disconnects his keyboard........On Saxon Warriors!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but picking apart the NEFC is your opinion and OK.  I'm no fan of the NEFC. Both National Poll's have Montclair ahead of Salisbury, and you are entitled to have an opposing view. There is not even a hint of respect for Montclair. That is great, but I also have the right to express my opinion. Hopefully at the end of the year, I can say I told you so, maybe not, but don't stop posting To me, this is all about fun, not sarcasism.

[Pat Coleman]

On the AFCA/D3football.com Top 25 question, I posted this last week on the CCIW board:

I think if you look at the ranked teams that get upset each week, invariably they were ranked higher in the coaches' poll than they were in our poll.

Good example from this past week: Our poll had Wartburg at No. 22 going into last week's game, and Dubuque unranked, with the game at Dubuque. The AFCA had Dubuque ranked No. 20 and Wartburg ranked No. 21. The AFCA poll said Dubuque should win that game, the higher ranked team playing at home. Wartburg won, however.

The AFCA poll loves unbeaten teams more than teams with losses. Here's another example, and you tell me which poll was more accurate:

No. 7 Montclair State 34, No. 24 Cortland State 33 (game at Montclair)
No. 11 Montclair State 34, No. 15 Cortland State 33
The second one is our poll.

Wittenberg, which lost at Huntingdon this past week, was ranked 11th in their poll, 14th in ours. Two weeks ago Trine lost, ranked No. 12 in their poll, No. 17 in ours.

Earlier in the season:

Cal Lutheran 28, No. 18 Redlands 24 (at Cal Lutheran)
No. 20 Cal Lutheran 28, No. 13 Redlands 24

Ours is the second one. Obviously we didn't nail this result but we were a lot closer than they were.

Just some food for thought. Neither poll is perfect but we have a very good track record.

[Knightstalker]

huhuhuh Pat isn't afraid to match his poll against any other poll.

[clandfan]

Pole envy.

[dlippiel]

Honestly dlip does not put a whole lot of stock in the AFCA poll. pg.04 is correct IDHO regarding the fact that most coaches at the d3 level dont spend time studying teams they dont play. Many of us on the other hand kind of obsess over this stuff. Dlip is a box score and recap hound. Does he know other teams better than some coaches? Who knows, all he knows is he spends a **** load of time reading about and studying d3 football, which is at least more than any casual d3 fan does. He assumes many others on here are as ****ed up as he is, love the game, the level, the athletes, and the teams that play it. Dlip doesn't necessarily put tons of stock in his erfp, but from his time on these boards respects the **** out of thd fan pollsters and the conclusions they come to whether it favors dlios team or.

Just back from standing in my back yard with my dog in the rain. In any event I agree with you. You are a D3 Wacko and I'm not far behind, but you played and I did not. As a Montclair fan, most posters don't give them enough respect. Sometimes we earn it. I did not have Montclair #1 all year with the exception of last week. After Kean stubbed their toe last week against B-Port, which they should have won, sorry PG but a nice win, it was time to put Montclair #1 in the East for my Poll. You can also argue that Salisbury should be #1 and nobody could argue except every other national Poll. To be honest I felt sorry for the Endicott supporters and decided to chime in at the expense of my Red Hawls. We fight for our lives at work every day and I enjoy the fun of D3 Football. Thanks.

Just to clarify dlip never played football...which makes his d3 sickness that much easier to diagnose.