East Region Fan Poll

[pg04]

Endicott lost to WNEC 40-37.  Say goodbye to the gulls' playoff chances.  I guess we won't be seeing Endicott in Salem this year. 

The other gulls, Salisbury also lost (to Wesley).

Not so fast, pg.  If WNEC and Endicott run the table, Endicott will be in serious Pool C consideration.  One-loss runners up are hard to come by, and we saw this happen in 2008 (Curry).

I honestly don't think there's any chance that it'll happen this year.  Say what you want, I don't think it's going to happen. 

[Frank Rossi]

One more Pool C contender gone:

UW-La Crosse 30
UW-Oshkosh   24
Final/OT

[Cardinal Pride]

Endicott lost to WNEC 40-37.  Say goodbye to the gulls' playoff chances.  I guess we won't be seeing Endicott in Salem this year. 

The other gulls, Salisbury also lost (to Wesley).

Not so fast, pg.  If WNEC and Endicott run the table, Endicott will be in serious Pool C consideration.  One-loss runners up are hard to come by, and we saw this happen in 2008 (Curry).

Endicott had 505 yards of offense to 255 for WNEC. At times you couldn't see across the field, the field had 4 inches of snow on it. Too bad they had to play in that weatehr. Oh well, both teams had to play in it. I'm thinking that the guys will be in Salem tonight for Halloween.

Damn weather, who would have thought they would play football in bad weather.  I have 2 questions... 505 yards of O in bad weather, how many yards would they have under normal conditions?   How does a team score 40 points on 255 yards of offense?  Weather???

[Frank Rossi]

Damn weather, who would have thought they would play football in bad weather.  I have 2 questions... 505 yards of O in bad weather, how many yards would they have under normal conditions?   How does a team score 40 points on 255 yards of offense?  Weather???

Well, here's one way:

2nd  00:34  WNE - Mike Graham 85 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)
...
3rd  00:00  WNE - Mike Graham 83 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)

Plus, WNEC turned the ball over 3 times, while Endicott did 4 times -- location of turnovers mattered a lot.

[Cardinal Pride]

Damn weather, who would have thought they would play football in bad weather.  I have 2 questions... 505 yards of O in bad weather, how many yards would they have under normal conditions?   How does a team score 40 points on 255 yards of offense?  Weather???

Well, here's one way:

2nd  00:34  WNE - Mike Graham 85 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)
...
3rd  00:00  WNE - Mike Graham 83 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)

Plus, WNEC turned the ball over 3 times, while Endicott did 4 times -- location of turnovers mattered a lot.

What a day for  Mike Graham.  Doesn't sound weather related though.

[Frank Rossi]

Damn weather, who would have thought they would play football in bad weather.  I have 2 questions... 505 yards of O in bad weather, how many yards would they have under normal conditions?   How does a team score 40 points on 255 yards of offense?  Weather???

Well, here's one way:

2nd  00:34  WNE - Mike Graham 85 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)
...
3rd  00:00  WNE - Mike Graham 83 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)

Plus, WNEC turned the ball over 3 times, while Endicott did 4 times -- location of turnovers mattered a lot.

What a day for  Mike Graham.  Doesn't sound weather related though.

I didn't wanna say it THAT way, but...

[DanPadavona]

Damn weather, who would have thought they would play football in bad weather.  I have 2 questions... 505 yards of O in bad weather, how many yards would they have under normal conditions?   How does a team score 40 points on 255 yards of offense?  Weather???

Well, here's one way:

2nd  00:34  WNE - Mike Graham 85 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)
...
3rd  00:00  WNE - Mike Graham 83 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)

Plus, WNEC turned the ball over 3 times, while Endicott did 4 times -- location of turnovers mattered a lot.

Whenever someone who loses points to their higher offensive yardage stats from scrimmage, you know they are conveniently leaving out special teams yardage, and the estimated yardage value of turnovers. I believe the value of a lost fumble is -40 yards or so. I assume an interception carries a similar value.

[Bombers798891]

Damn weather, who would have thought they would play football in bad weather.  I have 2 questions... 505 yards of O in bad weather, how many yards would they have under normal conditions?   How does a team score 40 points on 255 yards of offense?  Weather???

Well, here's one way:

2nd  00:34  WNE - Mike Graham 85 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)
...
3rd  00:00  WNE - Mike Graham 83 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)

Plus, WNEC turned the ball over 3 times, while Endicott did 4 times -- location of turnovers mattered a lot.

Whenever someone who loses points to their higher offensive yardage stats from scrimmage, you know they are conveniently leaving out special teams yardage, and the estimated yardage value of turnovers. I believe the value of a lost fumble is -40 yards or so. I assume an interception carries a similar value.

This is, for awhile, what people ignored with Kean when they played the whole, "Look at the yardage/box score" angle. Lots of blocked kicks and special teams plays.

Not to mention, kickoff returns for TD's give the other team "extra" offensive possessions.

[Charles]

Damn weather, who would have thought they would play football in bad weather.  I have 2 questions... 505 yards of O in bad weather, how many yards would they have under normal conditions?   How does a team score 40 points on 255 yards of offense?  Weather???

Well, here's one way:

2nd  00:34  WNE - Mike Graham 85 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)
...
3rd  00:00  WNE - Mike Graham 83 yd kickoff return (Nick Fox-Edele kick)

Plus, WNEC turned the ball over 3 times, while Endicott did 4 times -- location of turnovers mattered a lot.

The kid must have had 3" cleats.

[lewdogg11]

I'd like for everyone to refer to me as Lewdogg11 Fox-Adele from now on. Thanks.

[Frank Rossi]

C'mon, Lew.  Why change your name?  You could've had it all, rollin' in the deep...

[SUADC]

This is what I have as the East bracket, as of today. Feel free to comment and make your suggestions.

#1 Mount Union (Subject to St. Thomas going undefeated)
vs.
#8 SUNY Maritime/Norwich

#4 Winner of E8 (Salisbury or St. John Fisher)
vs.
#5 Endicott

#2 Hobart/Delaware Valley (Depending on committee and Del Val winning out)
vs.
#7 2nd Place E8 (Salisbury or St. John Fisher or 2nd Place MAC (Del Val, Widener, Lycoming)

#3 Del Val/Hobart, or Widener (If Widener beats Del Val or Del Val Winning out, up to Committee)
vs.
#6 NJAC Winner (Kean, Montclair St., Rowan)

[lewdogg11]

This is what I have as the East bracket, as of today. Feel free to comment and make your suggestions.

#1 Mount Union (Subject to St. Thomas going undefeated)
vs.
#8 SUNY Maritime/Norwich

#4 Winner of E8 (Salisbury or St. John Fisher)
vs.
#5 Endicott

#2 Hobart/Delaware Valley (Depending on committee and Del Val winning out)
vs.
#7 2nd Place E8 (Salisbury or St. John Fisher or 2nd Place MAC (Del Val, Widener, Lycoming)

#3 Del Val/Hobart, or Widener (If Widener beats Del Val or Del Val Winning out, up to Committee)
vs.
#6 NJAC Winner (Kean, Montclair St., Rowan)

NEFC is now WNEC or Framingham St.  They will most likely get a 6 or 7 seed.  Endicott COULD see a Pool C bid at 9-1.  Normally I would say it's unlikely, but there's going to be a lot of 2 loss teams and very few one loss teams left in the East.

[pg04]

This is what I have as the East bracket, as of today. Feel free to comment and make your suggestions.

#1 Mount Union (Subject to St. Thomas going undefeated)
vs.
#8 SUNY Maritime/Norwich

#4 Winner of E8 (Salisbury or St. John Fisher)
vs.
#5 Endicott

#2 Hobart/Delaware Valley (Depending on committee and Del Val winning out)
vs.
#7 2nd Place E8 (Salisbury or St. John Fisher or 2nd Place MAC (Del Val, Widener, Lycoming)

#3 Del Val/Hobart, or Widener (If Widener beats Del Val or Del Val Winning out, up to Committee)
vs.
#6 NJAC Winner (Kean, Montclair St., Rowan)

NEFC is now WNEC or Framingham St.  They will most likely get a 6 or 7 seed.  Endicott COULD see a Pool C bid at 9-1.  Normally I would say it's unlikely, but there's going to be a lot of 2 loss teams and very few one loss teams left in the East.

It doesn't really matter about Pool C in the east.  There doesn't have to be any Pool C from the East.  They could be all from other regions.  There is still a lot of uncertainty of the Pool C.   

Actually the Pool C board does a good job of breaking those teams down.  Endicott is still in the picture there, but there are so many teams still remaining.  Including a team from the MAC.

[SUADC]

This is what I have as the East bracket, as of today. Feel free to comment and make your suggestions. This has been revised and change from the general topic and east topic to East Region Fan Poll, due to its fitting.

#1 Mount Union (Subject to St. Thomas going undefeated)
vs.
#8 SUNY Maritime/Norwich

#4 Winner of E8 (Salisbury or St. John Fisher)
vs.
#5 NJAC Winner (Kean, Montclair St., Rowan)

#2 Hobart/Delaware Valley (Depending on committee and Del Val winning out)
vs.
#7 Framington State/Western New England/Endicott

#3 Del Val/Hobart, or Widener (If Widener beats Del Val or Del Val Winning out, up to Committee)
vs.
#6 2nd Place E8 (Salisbury or St. John Fisher or 2nd Place MAC (Del Val, Widener, Lycoming)