East Region Fan Poll

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Frank Rossi

Because of the disjointed nature of the South, and to appease a potential flight risk, a Pool C in the East, I'm currently predicting, could push Salisbury or DelVal to the South (assuming a DelVal loss).  DelVal could be as low as a 5 or 6 in the South and face Wesley early.  It will really matter how many South teams exist in the deep South of the South Region, though.  We can't look at this in a vacuum if the East suddenly ends up with 7+UMU unless Union is the 8 seed.

Upstate

Quote from: rams1102 on November 09, 2011, 07:48:49 PM
Quote from: Timeforachange on November 09, 2011, 07:11:39 PM
I think it was Frank & LD who brought up the idea of Albion moving into the bracket.

If that were to happen I'd love to see:

1) MUC (Pool A)
2) Salisbury (Pool A)
3) Weidner (Pool A)
4) NJAC Winner (Pool A)
5) DVC (Pool C)
6) Hobart (Pool A)
7) NEFC Winner (Pool A)
8) Albion (Pool A)

Where do you put Norwich ?

Ugh...

I'd take Salisbury out and put them in the south then...
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fisheralum91

Im glad someone else said something about Endicott jumping Fisher and not some Fisher homer like me.
Honest to god, what does it take for the committee to realize that this conference is just BAD?
Fisher doesnt deserve a spot but Endicott?  Really?

lewdogg11

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 10, 2011, 09:01:32 AM
Im glad someone else said something about Endicott jumping Fisher and not some Fisher homer like me.
Honest to god, what does it take for the committee to realize that this conference is just BAD?
Fisher doesnt deserve a spot but Endicott?  Really?

Neither of them deserve a spot, and unless some crazy ish happens this week, I'm pretty confident neither get a bid.

fisheralum91

Fisher is going to have a nice season and get an ECAC bid.
If someone told me at homecoming that this would be the outcome of the season I would have begged, begged for this.
That being said, I hope that Fisher comes out with a true pocket passer next year and utilizes Kramer better, as he is a true RB.

SUADC

Quote from: Timeforachange on November 10, 2011, 12:02:44 AM
Quote from: rams1102 on November 09, 2011, 07:48:49 PM
Quote from: Timeforachange on November 09, 2011, 07:11:39 PM
I think it was Frank & LD who brought up the idea of Albion moving into the bracket.

If that were to happen I'd love to see:

1) MUC (Pool A)
2) Salisbury (Pool A)
3) Weidner (Pool A)
4) NJAC Winner (Pool A)
5) DVC (Pool C)
6) Hobart (Pool A)
7) NEFC Winner (Pool A)
8) Albion (Pool A)

Where do you put Norwich ?

Ugh...

I'd take Salisbury out and put them in the south then...

I highly doubt they will take any of the top 3 east teams out of the east. I would assume based on what you have, I believe it will be Del Val that moves to the south. Similar to what happen last year with Montclair State going to the South and the South inserting a team to the East. As far as Mount Union not playing either Norwich or the NEFC winner because of travel, I can see them inserting Albion. However that leaves Norwich out, so the committee would rearrange the east so that MUC can play Hobart or the NJAC winner, assuming they switch Del Val with a strong south team like Johns Hopkins. Allowing Johns Hopkins into the "East" allows MUC to play either the #5 seed or the #8 seed and because of travel it would match them with the proposed #5 seed NJAC winner.

It would something like this.
1) MUC (Pool A)
2) Johns Hopkins (Pool A)
3) Salisbury (Pool A)
4) Widener (Pool A)
5) NJAC Winner (Pool A)
6) Hobart (Pool A)
7) NEFC Winner (Pool A)
8) Norwich (Pool A)

fisheralum91

Wait now im confused.
When did hopkins get into the fray?
Would they be a south implant?

Yanks 99

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 10, 2011, 09:01:32 AM
Im glad someone else said something about Endicott jumping Fisher and not some Fisher homer like me.
Honest to god, what does it take for the committee to realize that this conference is just BAD?
Fisher doesnt deserve a spot but Endicott?  Really?

91...it was me.  Like I said before, it is borderline pathetic.  Endicott played one "tough" team this year, and lost (to WNEC).  WNEC...the same team that needed to score with under two minutes to go to beat the ECFC champion, Norwich.  Honestly...even at 9-1...what team did Endicott beat that is even remotely "impressive", considering they only beat two teams with an above .500 record (Framingham State and Salve)?  When you are hanging your hat, and body of work, on a 7 point win over Salve (who isn't a bad team, just not an overly impressive one)...your body of work is pretty terrible.  Especially when you look at these "Regional Rankings"...where it is pretty obvious that whoever is voting on this poll is looking at nothing more that overall wins and loses...and doing zero homework on who is playing who.

These conferences (NEFC and ECFC), with their utterly weak overall play and performance, are killing the East Region.  An additional problem that we are seeing right now is because of their (the NEFC and ECFC leagues) geographical location, they pretty much have to remain in the East Region (with the current 500 mile rule).  So now...unlike almost every NJAC, MAC, E8, or LL rep who could be shipped to the South Region (or even the North Region in some instances)...the East Region is stuck with these two stellar Pool A reps, and also get to avoid a #1 seed like MUC in the first round. 

Honestly...I think running up scores on teams in almost every case is in ridiculously poor taste...but if I were an NJAC, MAC, E8, or LL rep, I would be hard pressed to take my foot off the gas against any NEFC/ECFC team in the first round match-up in attempt to send a message to the NCAA that they need to do a better job of managing the tournament.
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fisheralum91

Yanks,
No need to go full throttle, your 3rd string could score at will anyway.
Get the scrubs some PT!

AUKaz00

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 10, 2011, 09:31:48 AM
Yanks,
No need to go full throttle, your 3rd string could score at will anyway.
Get the scrubs some PT!

Hey, now.  You only have a 53 man roster and Alfred's backups were only able to put up 10 on SUNY-Maritime in the second half last year (with 6 of those coming on a pick-six).
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fisheralum91

Cmon Kaz,
As much as you enjoyed that game.....Didnt you want a little better competition?

Upstate

Quote from: SUADC on November 10, 2011, 09:21:18 AM
It would something like this.
1) MUC (Pool A)
2) Johns Hopkins (Pool A)
3) Salisbury (Pool A)
4) Widener (Pool A)
5) NJAC Winner (Pool A)
6) Hobart (Pool A)
7) NEFC Winner (Pool A)
8) Norwich (Pool A)

It's been pointed out several times that neither the NEFC rep or Norwich will be going to MUC because of the 500 mile rule...
The views expressed in the above post do not represent the views of St. John Fisher College, their athletic department, their coaching staff or their players. I am an over zealous antagonist that does not have any current connection to the institution I attended.

SUADC

Quote from: Timeforachange on November 10, 2011, 09:51:57 AM
Quote from: SUADC on November 10, 2011, 09:21:18 AM
It would something like this.
1) MUC (Pool A)
2) Johns Hopkins (Pool A)
3) Salisbury (Pool A)
4) Widener (Pool A)
5) NJAC Winner (Pool A)
6) Hobart (Pool A)
7) NEFC Winner (Pool A)
8) Norwich (Pool A)

It's been pointed out several times that neither the NEFC rep or Norwich will be going to MUC because of the 500 mile rule...

Agree 100%, that is why MUC would most likely play the NJAC Winner because based on playoff seed usually the winner of #1 vs #8 team plays the winner of #4 vs. #5, so in all respect, they would allow MUC to play the #5 seed for the first round and assuming the #4 beats #8, the travel rule will still be in affect with MUC playing the #4 in the second round.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: AUKaz00 on November 10, 2011, 09:44:46 AM
Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 10, 2011, 09:31:48 AM
Yanks,
No need to go full throttle, your 3rd string could score at will anyway.
Get the scrubs some PT!

Hey, now.  You only have a 53 man roster and Alfred's backups were only able to put up 10 on SUNY-Maritime in the second half last year (with 6 of those coming on a pick-six).

Up 50-something, I doubt the Alfred backups were playing with the full playbook.
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fisheralum91

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