East Region Fan Poll

[Yanks 99]

You know what is offensive?  The overall quality of the NEFC and the ECFC.  Get better...quickly...please...for the entire Region's sake.

Actually, what's offensive is the overall scheduling practices of these conferences.  If they don't change their ways, they should just adopt the NESCAC standard of inter-scheduling and no playoff bids.  The Committee needs to begin to understand that rewarding fake SOS numbers (since inter-scheduling automatically helps to inflate SOS standings for many of these "strong" teams) is having a backward affect on teams' desires to schedule stronger teams in OOC scenarios.  There is no real reward to strong OOC scheduling under current scenarios if your conference schedule already contains 6 or 7 other strong teams.

[EDIT: I want to parse out Salve Regina from this discussion.  That team took some nice risks and performed reasonably in doing so.  However, the NEFC should not be able to just sit there and ride the coattails of one team that made the right decisions.  If Salve was in the clubhouse at 9-1, I'd be the first person out front to say they deserve a Pool C bid, if nothing else, to reward that scheduling.]

Frank...we often don't see eye to eye...but like you, I also give Salve some credit.  If they finished 9-1 or 10-1 this year and won the NEFC with their only loss being to Montclair...I think they would be a good candidate, and would not receive much grief about getting a bid.

For the NEFC's sake, it was probably unfortunate that they lost to WNEC and Endicott this year.

[lewdogg11]

You know what is offensive?  The overall quality of the NEFC and the ECFC.  Get better...quickly...please...for the entire Region's sake.

Actually, what's offensive is the overall scheduling practices of these conferences.  If they don't change their ways, they should just adopt the NESCAC standard of inter-scheduling and no playoff bids.  The Committee needs to begin to understand that rewarding fake SOS numbers (since inter-scheduling automatically helps to inflate SOS standings for many of these "strong" teams) is having a backward affect on teams' desires to schedule stronger teams in OOC scenarios.  There is no real reward to strong OOC scheduling under current scenarios if your conference schedule already contains 6 or 7 other strong teams.

[EDIT: I want to parse out Salve Regina from this discussion.  That team took some nice risks and performed reasonably in doing so.  However, the NEFC should not be able to just sit there and ride the coattails of one team that made the right decisions.  If Salve was in the clubhouse at 9-1, I'd be the first person out front to say they deserve a Pool C bid, if nothing else, to reward that scheduling.]

Frank...we often don't see eye to eye...but like you, I also give Salve some credit.  If they finished 9-1 or 10-1 this year and won the NEFC with their only loss being to Montclair...I think they would be a good candidate, and would not receive much grief about getting a bid.

For the NEFC's sake, it was probably unfortunate that they lost to WNEC and Endicott this year.

If they won the NEFC they would have gotten the AQ.  DOH!

[Frank Rossi]

You know what is offensive?  The overall quality of the NEFC and the ECFC.  Get better...quickly...please...for the entire Region's sake.

Actually, what's offensive is the overall scheduling practices of these conferences.  If they don't change their ways, they should just adopt the NESCAC standard of inter-scheduling and no playoff bids.  The Committee needs to begin to understand that rewarding fake SOS numbers (since inter-scheduling automatically helps to inflate SOS standings for many of these "strong" teams) is having a backward affect on teams' desires to schedule stronger teams in OOC scenarios.  There is no real reward to strong OOC scheduling under current scenarios if your conference schedule already contains 6 or 7 other strong teams.

[EDIT: I want to parse out Salve Regina from this discussion.  That team took some nice risks and performed reasonably in doing so.  However, the NEFC should not be able to just sit there and ride the coattails of one team that made the right decisions.  If Salve was in the clubhouse at 9-1, I'd be the first person out front to say they deserve a Pool C bid, if nothing else, to reward that scheduling.]

Frank...we often don't see eye to eye...but like you, I also give Salve some credit.  If they finished 9-1 or 10-1 this year and won the NEFC with their only loss being to Montclair...I think they would be a good candidate, and would not receive much grief about getting a bid.

For the NEFC's sake, it was probably unfortunate that they lost to WNEC and Endicott this year.

If they won the NEFC they would have gotten the AQ.  DOH!

Right, I meant that if Salve sat in Endicott's shoes, there'd be no argument here from me about their placement.

[Charles]

You know what is offensive?  The overall quality of the NEFC and the ECFC.  Get better...quickly...please...for the entire Region's sake.

Actually, what's offensive is the overall scheduling practices of these conferences.  If they don't change their ways, they should just adopt the NESCAC standard of inter-scheduling and no playoff bids.  The Committee needs to begin to understand that rewarding fake SOS numbers (since inter-scheduling automatically helps to inflate SOS standings for many of these "strong" teams) is having a backward affect on teams' desires to schedule stronger teams in OOC scenarios.  There is no real reward to strong OOC scheduling under current scenarios if your conference schedule already contains 6 or 7 other strong teams.

[EDIT: I want to parse out Salve Regina from this discussion.  That team took some nice risks and performed reasonably in doing so.  However, the NEFC should not be able to just sit there and ride the coattails of one team that made the right decisions.  If Salve was in the clubhouse at 9-1, I'd be the first person out front to say they deserve a Pool C bid, if nothing else, to reward that scheduling.]

Frank...we often don't see eye to eye...but like you, I also give Salve some credit.  If they finished 9-1 or 10-1 this year and won the NEFC with their only loss being to Montclair...I think they would be a good candidate, and would not receive much grief about getting a bid.

For the NEFC's sake, it was probably unfortunate that they lost to WNEC and Endicott this year.

If they won the NEFC they would have gotten the AQ.  DOH!

Right, I meant that if Salve sat in Endicott's shoes, there'd be no argument here from me about their placement.

Did you walk over to see them Staurday?

[Yanks 99]

You know what is offensive?  The overall quality of the NEFC and the ECFC.  Get better...quickly...please...for the entire Region's sake.

Actually, what's offensive is the overall scheduling practices of these conferences.  If they don't change their ways, they should just adopt the NESCAC standard of inter-scheduling and no playoff bids.  The Committee needs to begin to understand that rewarding fake SOS numbers (since inter-scheduling automatically helps to inflate SOS standings for many of these "strong" teams) is having a backward affect on teams' desires to schedule stronger teams in OOC scenarios.  There is no real reward to strong OOC scheduling under current scenarios if your conference schedule already contains 6 or 7 other strong teams.

[EDIT: I want to parse out Salve Regina from this discussion.  That team took some nice risks and performed reasonably in doing so.  However, the NEFC should not be able to just sit there and ride the coattails of one team that made the right decisions.  If Salve was in the clubhouse at 9-1, I'd be the first person out front to say they deserve a Pool C bid, if nothing else, to reward that scheduling.]

Frank...we often don't see eye to eye...but like you, I also give Salve some credit.  If they finished 9-1 or 10-1 this year and won the NEFC with their only loss being to Montclair...I think they would be a good candidate, and would not receive much grief about getting a bid.

For the NEFC's sake, it was probably unfortunate that they lost to WNEC and Endicott this year.

If they won the NEFC they would have gotten the AQ.  DOH!

Right, I meant that if Salve sat in Endicott's shoes, there'd be no argument here from me about their placement.

This is completely hypothetical...but if Salve had finished 9-1, but had lost to WNEC like Endicott did and therefore didn't advance to the NEFC Championship game...but had beaten Union and Montclair in their non-league games...I would be OK with Salve getting serious Pool C consideration.

[Frank Rossi]

Did you walk over to see them Staurday?

HUH?!

[lewdogg11]

You know what is offensive?  The overall quality of the NEFC and the ECFC.  Get better...quickly...please...for the entire Region's sake.

Actually, what's offensive is the overall scheduling practices of these conferences.  If they don't change their ways, they should just adopt the NESCAC standard of inter-scheduling and no playoff bids.  The Committee needs to begin to understand that rewarding fake SOS numbers (since inter-scheduling automatically helps to inflate SOS standings for many of these "strong" teams) is having a backward affect on teams' desires to schedule stronger teams in OOC scenarios.  There is no real reward to strong OOC scheduling under current scenarios if your conference schedule already contains 6 or 7 other strong teams.

[EDIT: I want to parse out Salve Regina from this discussion.  That team took some nice risks and performed reasonably in doing so.  However, the NEFC should not be able to just sit there and ride the coattails of one team that made the right decisions.  If Salve was in the clubhouse at 9-1, I'd be the first person out front to say they deserve a Pool C bid, if nothing else, to reward that scheduling.]

Frank...we often don't see eye to eye...but like you, I also give Salve some credit.  If they finished 9-1 or 10-1 this year and won the NEFC with their only loss being to Montclair...I think they would be a good candidate, and would not receive much grief about getting a bid.

For the NEFC's sake, it was probably unfortunate that they lost to WNEC and Endicott this year.

If they won the NEFC they would have gotten the AQ.  DOH!

Right, I meant that if Salve sat in Endicott's shoes, there'd be no argument here from me about their placement.

This is completely hypothetical...but if Salve had finished 9-1, but had lost to WNEC like Endicott did and therefore didn't advance to the NEFC Championship game...but had beaten Union and Montclair in their non-league games...I would be OK with Salve getting serious Pool C consideration.

I'd be ok with anyone at 9-1 getting in with wins over Union and Montclair.

[Charles]

You know what is offensive?  The overall quality of the NEFC and the ECFC.  Get better...quickly...please...for the entire Region's sake.

Actually, what's offensive is the overall scheduling practices of these conferences.  If they don't change their ways, they should just adopt the NESCAC standard of inter-scheduling and no playoff bids.  The Committee needs to begin to understand that rewarding fake SOS numbers (since inter-scheduling automatically helps to inflate SOS standings for many of these "strong" teams) is having a backward affect on teams' desires to schedule stronger teams in OOC scenarios.  There is no real reward to strong OOC scheduling under current scenarios if your conference schedule already contains 6 or 7 other strong teams.

[EDIT: I want to parse out Salve Regina from this discussion.  That team took some nice risks and performed reasonably in doing so.  However, the NEFC should not be able to just sit there and ride the coattails of one team that made the right decisions.  If Salve was in the clubhouse at 9-1, I'd be the first person out front to say they deserve a Pool C bid, if nothing else, to reward that scheduling.]

Frank...we often don't see eye to eye...but like you, I also give Salve some credit.  If they finished 9-1 or 10-1 this year and won the NEFC with their only loss being to Montclair...I think they would be a good candidate, and would not receive much grief about getting a bid.

For the NEFC's sake, it was probably unfortunate that they lost to WNEC and Endicott this year.

If they won the NEFC they would have gotten the AQ.  DOH!

Right, I meant that if Salve sat in Endicott's shoes, there'd be no argument here from me about their placement.

This is completely hypothetical...but if Salve had finished 9-1, but had lost to WNEC like Endicott did and therefore didn't advance to the NEFC Championship game...but had beaten Union and Montclair in their non-league games...I would be OK with Salve getting serious Pool C consideration.

I'd be ok with anyone at 9-1 getting in with wins over Union and Montclair.

Union hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record yet, Endicott held SR to 8fd and Montclair held them to 7fd. I'm pretty sure nobody has seen Endicott play except for Frank.

[AUKaz00]

Union hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record yet, Endicott held SR to 8fd and Montclair held them to 7fd. I'm pretty sure nobody has seen Endicott play except for Frank.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck...

[Upstate]

Union hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record yet, Endicott held SR to 8fd and Montclair held them to 7fd. I'm pretty sure nobody has seen Endicott play except for Frank.

Who cares, Endicott would still get blown out by any respectable team in the East...

[lewdogg11]

Union hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record yet, Endicott held SR to 8fd and Montclair held them to 7fd. I'm pretty sure nobody has seen Endicott play except for Frank.

Who cares, Endicott would still get blown out by any respectable team in the East...

Unless they DON'T get too fired up.  That spells trouble for anyone.

[Frank Rossi]

Union hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record yet, Endicott held SR to 8fd and Montclair held them to 7fd. I'm pretty sure nobody has seen Endicott play except for Frank.

Who said I saw Endicott play?  I saw a Play of the Week clip of a long field goal... Daz about it...

And, that's my point, charles.  Whose fault is it that nobody has seen them play?  Ours or Endicott's?  SCHEDULE SOMEBODY, DAMMIT!

[lewdogg11]

Union hasn't beaten anyone with a winning record yet, Endicott held SR to 8fd and Montclair held them to 7fd. I'm pretty sure nobody has seen Endicott play except for Frank.

Who said I saw Endicott play?  I saw a Play of the Week clip of a long field goal... Daz about it...

And, that's my point, charles.  Whose fault is it that nobody has seen them play?  Ours or Endicott's?  SCHEDULE SOMEBODY, DAMMIT!

Or just go undefeated and shut the **** up.

[fisheralum91]

Wow,
Didnt know if I started this but Charles---truth be told not even you can say with a straight face that Endicott is better than Fisher.

[RedDragonFan]

After reading this weeks "Around the East" column I have to ask a question.  Andrew states, and I am paraphrasing, if Cortland wins Cortaca, they might get a pool C bid with serious help.  Does anyone see a scenario other than Superman reversing the rotation of the earth to go back in time and erase one of the two losses Cortland had, where they might actually have a shot?  If there is a scenario, I want go light a candle or do something to help the cause, but honestly I don't see it in the cards.  Am I missing something?