East Region Fan Poll

[SJFF82]

of course it would perhaps be tooting Fisher's horn (and I am far from convinced they deserve it) but then why not send a statement to the committee of how things should be.  Who has more knowledge and insight than this staff?  ....instead of validating the NCAA nonsense, like the example Yanks99 gave previously where the committee had MUC 3 in the North in week 9 last year...

[SJFF82]

so are the d3 projections a prediction of how the NCAA committee will see it or are they what d3.com thinks the field should be?

Prediction of the field.  It's clear that we don't believe Endicott is stronger than some of the 2-loss teams -- however, we must use the anticipated final Regional Rankings (that we will never see) to simulate the process.  Endicott would be the first Pool C nominee in the East -- and would not be chosen until the final Pool C choice, most likely.  No other East team likely saw the light of day in Pool C either way (whether or not Endicott was chosen).

so Endicott is that much better than any other team in the East in the NCAA eyes...

[Pat Coleman]

Well, honestly, we've tried that tactic the past couple years, 82. It doesn't work.

[Frank Rossi]

of course it would perhaps be tooting Fisher's horn (and I am far from convinced they deserve it) but then why not send a statement to the committee of how things should be.  Who has more knowledge and insight than this staff?  ....instead of validating the NCAA nonsense, like the example Yanks99 gave previously where the committee had MUC 3 in the North in week 9 last year...

I separate Pat and the site vs. what I participate in here in the following manner:  Pat and the site's D3football.com pages are journalistic efforts.  Thus, it's not the place for commentaries of any major proportion coming before news and legitimate predictions.  I generally view myself as a commentator, especially on "In the HuddLLe" -- and that's where we'll discuss those types of issues (aside from these message boards).  As I stated elsewhere, I'll be asking the Committee Chair about the subjective vs. objective SOS debate and how it affected the placement and selection of Endicott and the placement of WNEC vs. Hobart.  We'll do so respectfully, as the Committee is attempting to carry out NCAA mandates -- so we'll let her explain how that all works and how it may have influenced things.

[SJFF82]

Well, honestly, we've tried that tactic the past couple years, 82. It doesn't work.

ok....I hear ya....the committee oughta have to line up 11/22 members and play MUC at the end of the season for their pigheadedness

[Pat Coleman]

Right. That should be dealt with separately, and we have, with this front page piece:

http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2011/two-loss-teams-need-not-apply

[Upstate]

Right. That should be dealt with separately, and we have, with this front page piece:

http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2011/two-loss-teams-need-not-apply

Great piece!

[RedDragonFan]

Almost feel bad asking but gonna anyway! Curious why Cortland wasn't mentioned as a two loss team in the article? This is going to sound weird but does the quality of a teams loss come into play? Based on what's being said the answer is no but Cortland's losses were very close losses to two ranked teams. Either game could of gone the other way but didn't I well know. They are a tough team that I am sorry let it get away.

[Ralph Turner]

Almost feel bad asking but gonna anyway! Curious why Cortland wasn't mentioned as a two loss team in the article? This is going to sound weird but does the quality of a teams loss come into play? Based on what's being said the answer is no but Cortland's losses were very close losses to two ranked teams. Either game could of gone the other way but didn't I well know. They are a tough team that I am sorry let it get away.

"Results" is the wording used in the Handbook.

Besides, the Head-to-head would put Cortland State behind Montclair State on the board.

[Pat Coleman]

Almost feel bad asking but gonna anyway! Curious why Cortland wasn't mentioned as a two loss team in the article? This is going to sound weird but does the quality of a teams loss come into play? Based on what's being said the answer is no but Cortland's losses were very close losses to two ranked teams. Either game could of gone the other way but didn't I well know. They are a tough team that I am sorry let it get away.

I could list a lot of two-loss teams -- Cortland would be behind Montclair, of course, because of the loss, and their SOS was under .500, so I did not list them.

[SJFF82]

ok stupid question....is the selection show live somewhere?

[RedDragonFan]

Almost feel bad asking but gonna anyway! Curious why Cortland wasn't mentioned as a two loss team in the article? This is going to sound weird but does the quality of a teams loss come into play? Based on what's being said the answer is no but Cortland's losses were very close losses to two ranked teams. Either game could of gone the other way but didn't I well know. They are a tough team that I am sorry let it get away.

I could list a lot of two-loss teams -- Cortland would be behind Montclair, of course, because of the loss, and their SOS was under .500, so I did not list them.

Know there are many and had no idea what their SOS was...thanks.

[lewdogg11]

WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED???

[lewdogg11]

So it's entirely possible that Hobart plays in CA or OR in RD 2 and Kean or Salisbury could play UWW in RD3.  Crazy talk!  I like it.  The NCAA showed some balls.

[SJFF82]

HELL YES!!!!!!