East Region Fan Poll

Started by pg04, July 05, 2007, 09:44:54 PM

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fisheralum91

Yanks-
I dont think that Charles would be that crazy to think that Endicott isin the fray this year.
Then again I have been proven wrong on here a few times ::)

Bombers798891

I think Cortland is being undersold by some.

I know they lose some defensive players, but they bring back (I think) six starters and two backups that should be fine in the starter role. That's eight solid, starting-caliber returning defensive players by my count.

Offensively, they lose Pitcher, but they return their top 3 pass catchers. Ithaca had a similar situation in 2010. Rob Zappia was pretty mediocre in camp from what I heard (and had a horrid running game behind him), but with Ruffrage, Higgins, and Vossler, he put up a 57%, 2507, 19-8 line. I think Cortland could be in line for the same. Having multiple receiving options is a matchup nightmare for all but the best teams, and John Babin is really, really, good. (BTW, any one know what Justin Autera's status is for 2012?)

I see Cortland going 7-3 at worst next year. TCNJ, Montclair, Kean, and Rowan will be tough, but I think Cortland splits those four at least. And unless Buff State trips them up, I don't see any upsets from the lower ranked NJAC schools or Ithaca.

AUKaz00

Quote from: Bombers798891 on August 27, 2012, 04:00:11 PM
I think Cortland is being undersold by some.

I know they lose some defensive players, but they bring back (I think) six starters and two backups that should be fine in the starter role. That's eight solid, starting-caliber returning defensive players by my count.

Offensively, they lose Pitcher, but they return their top 3 pass catchers. Ithaca had a similar situation in 2010. Rob Zappia was pretty mediocre in camp from what I heard (and had a horrid running game behind him), but with Ruffrage, Higgins, and Vossler, he put up a 57%, 2507, 19-8 line. I think Cortland could be in line for the same. Having multiple receiving options is a matchup nightmare for all but the best teams, and John Babin is really, really, good. (BTW, any one know what Justin Autera's status is for 2012?)

I see Cortland going 7-3 at worst next year. TCNJ, Montclair, Kean, and Rowan will be tough, but I think Cortland splits those four at least. And unless Buff State trips them up, I don't see any upsets from the lower ranked NJAC schools or Ithaca.

Yeah, Cortland is an interesting subject.  The finished with the best +/- in the NJAC last year.  I'll be interested to see if that reversion to the mean applies in D3 as much as it does elsewhere.
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lewdogg11

Quote from: AUKaz00 on August 27, 2012, 01:50:54 PM
Preseason Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Salisbury( 5 )0-050NRat Christopher Newport
2t  Delaware Valley 0-041NRat Rowan
2t  St. John Fisher0-041NRvs. Thomas More
4   Cortland State0-027NRat Buffalo State
5t  Hobart0-025NRvs. Dickenson
5t  Kean0-025NRvs. Albright
7   Widener0-023NRvs. Western Connecticut
8   Montclair State0-012NRvs. Lebanon Valley
9   Lycoming0-09NRvs. Brockport State
10  Springfield0-08NRvs. Bridgewater State


Also Receiving votes:               
Alfred 4
Rowan 4
Buffalo State 3
Lebanon Valley 2
RPI 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Salisbury (1,1,1,1,1)
Delaware Valley (2,4,3,3,2)
St. John Fisher (4,3,2,2,3)
Cortland State (3,8,5,4,8)
Hobart (6,2,NR,7,4)
Kean (10,6,4,5,5)
Widener (5,5,7,9,6)
Montclair State (NR,10,9,6,7)
Lycoming (7,NR,NR,8,9)
Springfield (9,NR,6,10,NR)
Alfred (NR,NR,8,NR,10)
Rowan (NR,7,NR,NR,NR)
Buffalo State (8,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Lebanon Valley (NR,9,NR,NR,NR)
RPI (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)

Your voting distribution appears to be off.  Just an FYI.

sjfcards

Quote from: pg04 on August 27, 2012, 02:18:34 PM
The top 3 pretty much was standard ( a couple 4's in there as well even) but after that the distribution was really interesting for teams like Hobart and Cortland.

I am really interested in Hobart this year. I was really impressed with them last year, and think they have the team to stay toward the top of the east region all year.

Cortland is all about QB play with Oitcher gone, so they should be fun to see as well .
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clandfan

Quote from: Bombers798891 on August 27, 2012, 04:00:11 PM
I think Cortland is being undersold by some.

I know they lose some defensive players, but they bring back (I think) six starters and two backups that should be fine in the starter role. That's eight solid, starting-caliber returning defensive players by my count.

Offensively, they lose Pitcher, but they return their top 3 pass catchers. Ithaca had a similar situation in 2010. Rob Zappia was pretty mediocre in camp from what I heard (and had a horrid running game behind him), but with Ruffrage, Higgins, and Vossler, he put up a 57%, 2507, 19-8 line. I think Cortland could be in line for the same. Having multiple receiving options is a matchup nightmare for all but the best teams, and John Babin is really, really, good. (BTW, any one know what Justin Autera's status is for 2012?)

I see Cortland going 7-3 at worst next year. TCNJ, Montclair, Kean, and Rowan will be tough, but I think Cortland splits those four at least. And unless Buff State trips them up, I don't see any upsets from the lower ranked NJAC schools or Ithaca.

FYI:  Babin is out with a broken collarbone suffered Sat.  could possibly return week 9 or later but my guess would be medical red shirt.  That being said, still pretty deep at receiver and RB is filthy deep.  QB play should be adequate or better.  Defense will be pretty solid but thin in the secondary.  I think the big question will be OL.  Rose inexperienced, not as mobile as Pitcher, and lost his number one receiver.  He really needs to OL to step up and there is inexperience there and they aren't very deep.  Time will tell.

Bombers798891

Quote from: clandfan on August 27, 2012, 10:39:05 PM
Quote from: Bombers798891 on August 27, 2012, 04:00:11 PM
I think Cortland is being undersold by some.

I know they lose some defensive players, but they bring back (I think) six starters and two backups that should be fine in the starter role. That's eight solid, starting-caliber returning defensive players by my count.

Offensively, they lose Pitcher, but they return their top 3 pass catchers. Ithaca had a similar situation in 2010. Rob Zappia was pretty mediocre in camp from what I heard (and had a horrid running game behind him), but with Ruffrage, Higgins, and Vossler, he put up a 57%, 2507, 19-8 line. I think Cortland could be in line for the same. Having multiple receiving options is a matchup nightmare for all but the best teams, and John Babin is really, really, good. (BTW, any one know what Justin Autera's status is for 2012?)

I see Cortland going 7-3 at worst next year. TCNJ, Montclair, Kean, and Rowan will be tough, but I think Cortland splits those four at least. And unless Buff State trips them up, I don't see any upsets from the lower ranked NJAC schools or Ithaca.

FYI:  Babin is out with a broken collarbone suffered Sat.  could possibly return week 9 or later but my guess would be medical red shirt.  That being said, still pretty deep at receiver and RB is filthy deep.  QB play should be adequate or better.  Defense will be pretty solid but thin in the secondary.  I think the big question will be OL.  Rose inexperienced, not as mobile as Pitcher, and lost his number one receiver.  He really needs to OL to step up and there is inexperience there and they aren't very deep.  Time will tell.

Well, that's something that really opens up the NJAC. Depth is good, but there's something to be said for that unstoppable WR that can go for 130-150 yards in one game. I'm leaning a little more to 7-3 now than I was yesterday.

Bummer to hear about Babin though. Never like to see guys hurt

AUKaz00

Quote from: LewDogg11 on August 27, 2012, 04:43:35 PM
Your voting distribution appears to be off.  Just an FYI.

Lousy, fat fingers.  Corrected version below:

Preseason Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Salisbury( 5 )0-050NRat Christopher Newport
2t  Delaware Valley 0-041NRat Rowan
2t  St. John Fisher0-041NRvs. Thomas More
4   Hobart0-029NRvs. Dickenson
5   Cortland State0-027NRat Buffalo State
6   Kean0-025NRvs. Albright
7   Widener0-019NRvs. Western Connecticut
8   Montclair State0-012NRvs. Lebanon Valley
9   Lycoming0-09NRvs. Brockport State
10  Springfield0-08NRvs. Bridgewater State


Also Receiving votes:               
Alfred 4
Rowan 4
Buffalo State 3
Lebanon Valley 2
RPI 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Salisbury (1,1,1,1,1)
Delaware Valley (2,4,3,3,2)
St. John Fisher (4,3,2,2,3)
Hobart (6,2,7,7,4)
Cortland State (3,8,5,4,8)
Kean (10,6,4,5,5)
Widener (5,5,NR,9,6)
Montclair State (NR,10,9,6,7)
Lycoming (7,NR,NR,8,9)
Springfield (9,NR,6,10,NR)
Alfred (NR,NR,8,NR,10)
Rowan (NR,7,NR,NR,NR)
Buffalo State (8,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Lebanon Valley (NR,9,NR,NR,NR)
RPI (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)
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lewdogg11

I just had a chance to look at all fo the scores and submitted my poll.  WTF happened this week?  What a crazy first week.  2 NEFC teams beat LL teams and WPI beats Curry?  And Cortland, Montclair, Kean, all lose?  Delaware Valley isn't a huge surprise because Rowan knows how to play football.  Wow.  Will be an interesting season.  Is Buff St. back???? 

dlippiel

Looks like Buffalo State may be Lew. Dlip thinks there may be a couple trip ups for the Bengals but this team is on the rise. dlip is going to touch on it on his blog but at least record wise and opponent wise, not a great showing for the LL. Dlip was quite pleased with WPI's win over Curry. The LL needed that.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: dlip on September 04, 2012, 08:54:39 AM
Looks like Buffalo State may be Lew. Dlip thinks there may be a couple trip ups for the Bengals but this team is on the rise. dlip is going to touch on it on his blog but at least record wise and opponent wise, not a great showing for the LL. Dlip was quite pleased with WPI's win over Curry. The LL needed that.

Buff State looks like they are back, but Cortland historically has had crappy seasons every 5 years or so.  Could be a rebuilding year for the Red Dragons.

AUKaz00

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Week 1 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Salisbury( 5 )1-0501vs. #1 (South) Wesley
2   St. John Fisher1-0432tat Washington and Jefferson
3   Hobart1-0364vs. Geneva
4   Widener1-0337at King's
5t  Buffalo State1-030NRat Brockport State
5t  Rowan1-030NRat Merrimack
7   Delaware Valley 0-1152tvs. Lycoming
8   Lebanon Valley1-010NRvs. Misericordia
9   Alfred0-08NRat RPI
10  Kean0-176at #2 (South) Mary Hardin-Baylor


Also Receiving votes:               
Cortland State 6
Albright 4
RPI 2
Brockport State 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Salisbury (1,1,1,1,1)
St. John Fisher (3,2,2,2,3)
Hobart (2,3,6,3,5)
Widener (4,9,3,4,2)
Buffalo State (6,5,4,6,4)
Rowan (5,4,5,5,6)
Delaware Valley (NR,7,7,8,7)
Lebanon Valley (8,NR,9,9,8)
Alfred (9,6,NR,NR,10)
Kean (NR,8,NR,7,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,8,10,9)
Albright (7,NR,NR,NR,NR)
RPI (10,10,NR,NR,NR)
Brockport State (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
#1 (South) Wesley at #1 Salisbury
#10 Kean at #2 (South) Mary Hardin-Baylor
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fisheralum91

Kaz- you may want to update the records too

AUKaz00

Quote from: fisheralum91 on September 04, 2012, 11:52:42 AM
Kaz- you may want to update the records too

I knew I'd miss something.  I'm on it now.
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rams1102

I am corious how Alfred got ranked #9. They were not in the Top 10 in the preseason poll, and did not play last week. I really don not understand this distribution stuff. I thought Cortland should have been #10 even after their visit to Buff St and this is coming from a Montclair homer who has no love for Cortland but does respect them. No disrespect to Alfred on my post. Await responses.
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