East Region Fan Poll

[Upstate]

Well lets try this. Stoldt will be the best NON- E8 QB we will see this year. I must defer to our conference when it comes to kudos. Nov 9th is a day when I'm hoping Fenti is not as hot as he was yesterday vs. W&J!!

The lack of a passing game killed the Cardinals vs Buff St last year. That offense was really tough to watch stall out time and time again. Buff St crowded the box for most of the game and took away their one dimensional offense.

Will be really interesting to see if Fenti can keep up this pace with the offense. In addition to having a pretty good RB next to him, he has some really nice weapons at WR. Francis (much like his older brother) is a burner, the 6'3" 200lb Nigolian can jump out of a gym and Kramer in the slot is very tough to bring down in the open field.

[AUKaz00]

Week 3 Fan Poll 

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Hobart( 5 )	2-0	50	1	at Merchant Marine
2   St. John Fisher	2-0	45	2	vs. #10t Cortland
3   Delaware Valley	3-0	38	3	vs. Stevenson
4   Widener	2-1	33	5	vs. Lycoming
5   Salisbury	1-2	30	6	Open
6   Buffalo State	2-1	16	4	vs. #9 Ithaca
7   Brockport State	1-1	14	7t	vs. Alfred
8   Rowan	1-1	13	7t	vs. Montclair State
9   Ithaca	2-0	8	NR	at #6 Buffalo State
10t Cortland State	1-1	7	9	at #2 St. John Fisher
10t Springfield	3-0	7	NR	at Rochester

Dropped Out:
Utica


Also Receiving votes:               
Stevenson 5
Utica 5
Albright 4
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Hobart (1,1,1,1,1)
St. John Fisher (2,2,2,2,2)
Delaware Valley (3,4,3,3,4)
Widener (4,3,5,5,5)
Salisbury (5,9,4,4,3)
Buffalo State (6,6,NR,9,7)
Brockport State (8,8,6,NR,8)
Rowan (NR,5,7,8,NR)
Ithaca (9,NR,10,NR,6)
Cortland State (NR,7,9,NR,10)
Springfield (10,NR,8,10,9)
Stevenson (NR,NR,NR,6,NR)
Utica (7,9,NR,NR,NR)
Albright (NR,NR,NR,7,NR)


Key Matchups:
#9 Ithaca at #6 Buffalo State
#10t Cortland State at #2 St. John Fisher

[AUKaz00]

Just filled out my rankings for this week's poll.  It's hard to make sense of anything below the top couple teams.  I think, as usual, there are 10 or 12 teams that could beat each other, so we end up with a glut of teams to squeeze into spots 6 through 10.

What to make of Lycoming (who lost to Brockport) beating Widener (who played Wesley tight)?  And Port losing by 2 at Buff State and in OT at home to Alfred?  And Buff State, who beat Cortland worse on the road than Fisher did at home, or Alfred who beat Montclair worse than Rowan - who played Del Val tight?  Speaking of close Del Val results, what to make of Stevenson and Albright?  And Utica?  Leb Val?  Framingham?

Looking forward to see how it all shakes out in the poll later today.

[dlippiel]

Just filled out my rankings for this week's poll.  It's hard to make sense of anything below the top couple teams.  I think, as usual, there are 10 or 12 teams that could beat each other, so we end up with a glut of teams to squeeze into spots 6 through 10.

What to make of Lycoming (who lost to Brockport) beating Widener (who played Wesley tight)?  And Port losing by 2 at Buff State and in OT at home to Alfred?  And Buff State, who beat Cortland worse on the road than Fisher did at home, or Alfred who beat Montclair worse than Rowan - who played Del Val tight?  Speaking of close Del Val results, what to make of Stevenson and Albright?  And Utica?  Leb Val?  Framingham?

Looking forward to see how it all shakes out in the poll later today.

dlip just sent his in. He feels worse about this poll than any he has put out before. Honestly after #3 it was quite challenging for him. Stevenson is inching up on dlip's radar though. It's a complete clutser%$# right now.

[AUKaz00]

Just filled out my rankings for this week's poll.  It's hard to make sense of anything below the top couple teams.  I think, as usual, there are 10 or 12 teams that could beat each other, so we end up with a glut of teams to squeeze into spots 6 through 10.

What to make of Lycoming (who lost to Brockport) beating Widener (who played Wesley tight)?  And Port losing by 2 at Buff State and in OT at home to Alfred?  And Buff State, who beat Cortland worse on the road than Fisher did at home, or Alfred who beat Montclair worse than Rowan - who played Del Val tight?  Speaking of close Del Val results, what to make of Stevenson and Albright?  And Utica?  Leb Val?  Framingham?

Looking forward to see how it all shakes out in the poll later today.

dlip just sent his in. He feels worse about this poll than any he has put out before. Honestly after #3 it was quite challenging for him. Stevenson is inching up on dlip's radar though. It's a complete clutser%$# right now.

Such a challenge that dlip ranked one of those bottom 6 teams twice!

[dlippiel]

Thanks Kaz, dlip was typing so fast he messed it up. Also he had to get his crumpled paper out of the garbage with his rankings on it. Usually he has them down in his head almost immediately...not this $#@!&* week! 

[AUKaz00]

Thanks Kaz, dlip was typing so fast he messed it up. Also he had to get his crumpled paper out of the garbage with his rankings on it. Usually he has them down in his head almost immediately...not this $#@!&* week! 

Well, this week is all over the map.  18 teams getting votes.  I went back through the rankings since I took over and we had 17 teams once, but also had 10 voters at that time.  Week 4 rankings coming shortly.

[AUKaz00]

Week 4 Fan Poll 

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Hobart( 4 )	3-0	49	1	vs. WPI
2   St. John Fisher( 1 )	3-0	46	2	vs. Frostburg State
3   Delaware Valley	4-0	38	3	at #7 Lycoming
4   Ithaca	3-0	33	9	at Hartwick
5   Salisbury	1-2	30	5	at #10 Utica
6   Rowan	2-1	17	8	at Brockport State
7   Lycoming	3-1	14	NR	vs. #3 Delaware Valley
8   Widener	2-2	9	4	at Stevenson
9   Alfred	2-1	7	NR	vs. Buffalo State
10  Utica	2-1	6	NR	vs. #5 Salisbury

Dropped Out:
Brockport State
Buffalo State
Cortland State
Springfield


Also Receiving votes:               
Stevenson 5
Albright 4
Cortland State 4
Lebanon Valley 4
Brockport State 3
Springfield 3
Buffalo State 2
Framingham State 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Hobart (1,1,1,1,2)
St. John Fisher (2,2,2,2,1)
Delaware Valley (5,3,3,3,3)
Ithaca (4,5,4,4,5)
Salisbury (3,4,9,5,4)
Rowan (6,NR,5,6,10)
Lycoming (9,7,6,8,NR)
Widener (NR,8,7,9,NR)
Alfred (7,NR,NR,NR,8)
Utica (NR,6,10,NR,NR)
Stevenson (NR,NR,NR,NR,6)
Albright (NR,NR,NR,NR,7)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,7,NR)
Lebanon Valley (10,NR,8,NR,NR)
Brockport State (8,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Springfield (NR,9,NR,10,NR)
Buffalo State (NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Framingham State (NR,10,NR,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
#3 Delaware Valley at #7 Lycoming
#5 Salisbury at #10 Utica

[AUKaz00]

And just for fun, here's a look at all the teams that received votes this week, but I went back through the first 4 weeks and added 3 points to the away team in all contests (as a proxy for home field advantage).  So, "record" and "results" are changed to look like the visiting team was given a mystery FG for the handicap of playing away.  Enjoy!

Team	"Record"	Common "Results"
Hobart	3-0	Utica (34-24)
St. John Fisher	3-0	Cortland (33-28)
Delaware Valley	4-0	Rowan (35-30), Albright (23-17), Stevenson (41-26)
Ithaca	3-0	Union (20-3), Buff State (27-20)
Salisbury	1-1-1	Wesley (30-30), N.C. Wesleyan (31-10)
Rowan	2-1	Del Val (30-35), Framingham (29-22), Montclair (7-3)
Lycoming	3-1	Brockport (5-30), Widener (19-14)
Widener	2-2	Wesley (24-33), Leb Val (35-31), Lycoming (14-19)
Alfred	2-1	Montclair (33-13), Brockport (37-28)
Utica	2-1	Union (25-19), Hobart (24-34)
Stevenson	3-1	N.C. Wesleyan (19-12), Albright (24-21), Del Val (26-41)
Albright	2-2	Stevenson (21-24), Del Val (17-23)
Cortland	1-2	Buff State (28-44), Fisher (28-33)
Lebanon Valley	2-2	Montclair (15-17), Widener (31-35)
Brockport	2-1	Lycoming (30-5), Buff State (43-42), Alfred (28-37)
Springfield	4-0	Rochester (38-36)
Buff State	1-3	Cortland (44-28), Brockport (42-43), Ithaca (20-27)
Framingham	3-1	Rowan (22-29)

[dlippiel]

Thanks for all the work and organization Kaz! Great work getting the poll out! +k (...that's what she said!)

[AUKaz00]

Week 5 Fan Poll 

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Hobart( 5 )	4-0	50	1	at Springfield
2   St. John Fisher	4-0	45	2	at #9 Hartwick
3   Salisbury	2-2	40	5	vs. Buffalo State
4   Lycoming	4-1	33	7	at Lebanon Valley
5   Rowan	3-1	28	6	at Morrisville State
6   Delaware Valley	4-1	24	3	Open
7   Alfred	3-1	14	9	at #10 Ithaca
8   Widener	3-2	12	8	Open
9   Hartwick	4-0	9	NR	vs. #2 St. John Fisher
10  Ithaca	3-1	6	4	vs. #7 Alfred

Dropped Out:
Utica


Also Receiving votes:               
Lebanon Valley 4
Buffalo State 3
Brockport State 2
Framingham State 2
Cortland State 1
St. Lawrence 1
Western Connecticut 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Hobart (1,1,1,1,1)
St. John Fisher (2,2,2,2,2)
Salisbury (3,3,3,3,3)
Lycoming (4,5,4,4,5)
Rowan (6,4,7,6,4)
Delaware Valley (5,7,5,5,9)
Alfred (7,6,NR,NR,6)
Widener (10,NR,6,9,7)
Hartwick (NR,9,8,7,NR)
Ithaca (NR,NR,NR,8,8)
Lebanon Valley (NR,8,NR,10,NR)
Buffalo State (8,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Brockport State (9,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Framingham State (NR,NR,9,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,NR,10)
St. Lawrence (NR,10,NR,NR,NR)
Western Connecticut (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
#2 St. John Fisher at #9 Hartwick
#7 Alfred at #10 Ithaca

[D3MAFAN]

Week 5 Fan Poll 

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Hobart( 5 )	4-0	50	1	at Springfield
2   St. John Fisher	4-0	45	2	at #9 Hartwick
3   Salisbury	2-2	40	5	vs. Buffalo State
4   Lycoming	4-1	33	7	at Lebanon Valley
5   Rowan	3-1	28	6	at Morrisville State
6   Delaware Valley	4-1	24	3	Open
7   Alfred	3-1	14	9	at #10 Ithaca
8   Widener	3-2	12	8	Open
9   Hartwick	4-0	9	NR	vs. #2 St. John Fisher
10  Ithaca	3-1	6	4	vs. #7 Alfred

Dropped Out:
Utica


Also Receiving votes:               
Lebanon Valley 4
Buffalo State 3
Brockport State 2
Framingham State 2
Cortland State 1
St. Lawrence 1
Western Connecticut 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Hobart (1,1,1,1,1)
St. John Fisher (2,2,2,2,2)
Salisbury (3,3,3,3,3)
Lycoming (4,5,4,4,5)
Rowan (6,4,7,6,4)
Delaware Valley (6,4,7,6,4)
Alfred (7,6,NR,NR,6)
Widener (10,NR,6,9,7)
Hartwick (NR,9,8,7,NR)
Ithaca (NR,NR,NR,8,8)
Lebanon Valley (NR,8,NR,10,NR)
Buffalo State (8,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Brockport State (9,NR,NR,NR,NR)
Framingham State (NR,NR,9,NR,NR)
Cortland State (NR,NR,NR,NR,10)
St. Lawrence (NR,10,NR,NR,NR)
Western Connecticut (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
#2 St. John Fisher at #9 Hartwick
#7 Alfred at #10 Ithaca

It's kind of weird that Rowan would be higher than Delaware Valley, I see that Rowan got two 4 place votes, but I didn't see two 3rd place votes for Delaware Valley. I would think that you would compare head-to-head as consideration, unless there was some type of anomaly during the two teams head-to-head matchup.

[AUPepBand]

Pep finds it odd that Framingham State (4-1), a team that nipped Western Connecticut (3-1) 14-12, just got by UMass-Dartmouth (1-3) 21-14, and lost to Rowan (3-1), would get 2 votes in the d3football.com Top 25 poll, the same number of points the Rams got in the East Region Fan Poll.

Pep thinks that close loss to Cortland State last year in the NCAA playoffs is getting old. 

[lewdogg11]

Kaz00, it looks like there may be something up with Rowan and Del Valley.  They look to have the same votes on your breakdown.  Not sure if this came into play with the vote tally or not.

[AUPepBand]

Kaz00, it looks like there may be something up with Rowan and Del Valley.  They look to have the same votes on your breakdown.  Not sure if this came into play with the vote tally or not.

Pep is thinking he copied it incorrectly because their point totals are different and there are a few "5"s missing. Probably doesn't affect outcome in any way, IMHO.