East Region Fan Poll

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Saxon73

Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 06, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on October 06, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
OK Guys,

Let's take a realistic look at the East. If the season would end today ther is no team that could host a bracket. The (4) would be UWW, MTU, MHB and Wesley. This is coming from a Montclair homer. I firmly believe that there is no current team in the East that could beat those (4). This is not a knock on the East, but reality is what it is. I also question RPI at #10 and not Alfred. I think Alfred beat them and I was the only one who voted for Alfred?

Your argument on Alfred held up until they lost to Hartwick. The Ithaca loss didn't hurt them but Hartwick loss is bad.  The RPI game could have gone either way.
Alfred's 1st team QB, Johnson, was injured half way through the 3rd QTR and he didn't return. I don't know if that is general knowledge, or if it would have impacted the voting.  Don't know what the problem is but, with a bye next week he will have some time to heal.
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rams1102

Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 06, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on October 06, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
OK Guys,

Let's take a realistic look at the East. If the season would end today ther is no team that could host a bracket. The (4) would be UWW, MTU, MHB and Wesley. This is coming from a Montclair homer. I firmly believe that there is no current team in the East that could beat those (4). This is not a knock on the East, but reality is what it is. I also question RPI at #10 and not Alfred. I think Alfred beat them and I was the only one who voted for Alfred?

Your argument on Alfred held up until they lost to Hartwick. The Ithaca loss didn't hurt them but Hartwick loss is bad.  The RPI game could have gone either way.

How about Alfred beating Buff St. I realize you can only play the games on your schedule, but who has RPI beat to make them #10. Does that mean Montclair at 3-1 with a loss to Del-Val should get consideration. Only Kidding.  :)
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lewdogg11

Quote from: rams1102 on October 07, 2014, 07:14:06 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 06, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on October 06, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
OK Guys,

Let's take a realistic look at the East. If the season would end today ther is no team that could host a bracket. The (4) would be UWW, MTU, MHB and Wesley. This is coming from a Montclair homer. I firmly believe that there is no current team in the East that could beat those (4). This is not a knock on the East, but reality is what it is. I also question RPI at #10 and not Alfred. I think Alfred beat them and I was the only one who voted for Alfred?



Your argument on Alfred held up until they lost to Hartwick. The Ithaca loss didn't hurt them but Hartwick loss is bad.  The RPI game could have gone either way.

How about Alfred beating Buff St. I realize you can only play the games on your schedule, but who has RPI beat to make them #10. Does that mean Montclair at 3-1 with a loss to Del-Val should get consideration. Only Kidding.  :)

For what it's worth, RPI and Hobarts common opponent results have been similar. Like I said, I have about 13 teams left to make this poll the rest of the year. It's all that realistically are 'Top 10'. Alfred sits at 11 and one win can get them back in.  However, with the E8 schedule, I have a hard time seeing Alfred finishing higher than 5-5 with the Hartwick loss.  They are probably 6th best in the E8 after this past week after looking strong early in the season.

Jonny Utah

Quote from: rams1102 on October 07, 2014, 07:14:06 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 06, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on October 06, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
OK Guys,

Let's take a realistic look at the East. If the season would end today ther is no team that could host a bracket. The (4) would be UWW, MTU, MHB and Wesley. This is coming from a Montclair homer. I firmly believe that there is no current team in the East that could beat those (4). This is not a knock on the East, but reality is what it is. I also question RPI at #10 and not Alfred. I think Alfred beat them and I was the only one who voted for Alfred?

Your argument on Alfred held up until they lost to Hartwick. The Ithaca loss didn't hurt them but Hartwick loss is bad.  The RPI game could have gone either way.

How about Alfred beating Buff St. I realize you can only play the games on your schedule, but who has RPI beat to make them #10. Does that mean Montclair at 3-1 with a loss to Del-Val should get consideration. Only Kidding.  :)

I think the hartwick loss is what puts rpi over alfred.  Although I have a feeling Hartwick may be better than what they did in the ithaca game.  That could have been an aberration and just one of those games where you just play like shizz and it is what it is.

lewdogg11

Quote from: Jonny "Utes" Utah on October 07, 2014, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: rams1102 on October 07, 2014, 07:14:06 AM
Quote from: LewDogg11 on October 06, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Quote from: rams1102 on October 06, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
OK Guys,

Let's take a realistic look at the East. If the season would end today ther is no team that could host a bracket. The (4) would be UWW, MTU, MHB and Wesley. This is coming from a Montclair homer. I firmly believe that there is no current team in the East that could beat those (4). This is not a knock on the East, but reality is what it is. I also question RPI at #10 and not Alfred. I think Alfred beat them and I was the only one who voted for Alfred?

Your argument on Alfred held up until they lost to Hartwick. The Ithaca loss didn't hurt them but Hartwick loss is bad.  The RPI game could have gone either way.

How about Alfred beating Buff St. I realize you can only play the games on your schedule, but who has RPI beat to make them #10. Does that mean Montclair at 3-1 with a loss to Del-Val should get consideration. Only Kidding.  :)

I think the hartwick loss is what puts rpi over alfred.  Although I have a feeling Hartwick may be better than what they did in the ithaca game.  That could have been an aberration and just one of those games where you just play like shizz and it is what it is.

Totally in agreement about Hartwick, but based on their recent history, they can knock off good teams but are inconsistent so tough to get a feel for them so far this year.

AUKaz00

Week 6 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Hobart( 5 )6-0501Open
2   St. John Fisher4-1413at Utica
3   Widener5-0384vs. Wilkes
4   Delaware Valley5-0376at Stevenson
5   Buffalo State5-1317Open
6   Ithaca4-1202at Frostburg State
7   Salisbury3-2199vs. Hartwick
8   Rowan3-2178vs. Morrisville State
9   Lycoming5-1145Open
10  St. Lawrence5-15NROpen


Dropped Out:
RPI


Also Receiving votes:               
Framingham State 2
Morrisville State 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Hobart (1,1,1,1,1)
St. John Fisher (2,2,5,3,2)
Widener (6,4,2,2,3)
Delaware Valley (3,3,3,4,5)
Buffalo State (4,5,4,5,6)
Ithaca (8,7,7,6,7)
Salisbury (5,6,8,9,8)
Lycoming (7,8,6,8,9)
Rowan (NR,10,9,7,4)
St. Lawrence (9,9,NR,10,NR)
Framingham State (NR,NR,10,NR,10)
Morrisville State (10,NR,NR,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
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D3MAFAN

Quote from: AUKaz00 on October 14, 2014, 10:06:19 AM
Week 6 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Hobart( 5 )6-0501Open
2   St. John Fisher4-1413at Utica
3   Widener5-0384vs. Wilkes
4   Delaware Valley5-0376at Stevenson
5   Buffalo State5-1317Open
6   Ithaca4-1202at Frostburg State
7   Salisbury3-2199vs. Hartwick
8   Rowan3-2178vs. Morrisville State
9   Lycoming5-1145Open
10  St. Lawrence5-15NROpen


Dropped Out:
RPI


Also Receiving votes:               
Framingham State 2
Morrisville State 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Hobart (1,1,1,1,1)
St. John Fisher (2,2,5,3,2)
Widener (6,4,2,2,3)
Delaware Valley (3,3,3,4,5)
Buffalo State (4,5,4,5,6)
Ithaca (8,7,7,6,7)
Salisbury (5,6,8,9,8)
Lycoming (7,8,6,8,9)
Rowan (NR,10,9,7,4)
St. Lawrence (9,9,NR,10,NR)
Framingham State (NR,NR,10,NR,10)
Morrisville State (10,NR,NR,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:

I think the Rowan vs. Morrisville State is a key matchup and the Delaware Valley vs. Stevenson. Other than that, I can't really argue the rankings, looks fine and I understand why the teams are ranked where they are.

AUKaz00

Week 7 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Hobart( 5 )6-0501at RPI
2   St. John Fisher5-1412at Alfred State
3   Widener6-0403at #6t Lycoming
4   Delaware Valley6-0374vs. Misericordia
5   Buffalo State5-1305vs. Utica
6t  Lycoming5-1219vs. #3 Widener
6t  Rowan4-2218at Montclair State
8   Salisbury4-2147at Ithaca
9   St. Lawrence5-1810vs. Springfield
10  Framingham State5-15NRat Plymouth State


Dropped Out:
Ithaca


Also Receiving votes:               
Montclair State 4
Brockport State 1
Ithaca 1
MIT 1
Springfield 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Hobart (1,1,1,1,1)
St. John Fisher (2,5,3,2,2)
Widener (4,2,2,3,4)
Delaware Valley (3,3,4,5,3)
Buffalo State (5,4,5,6,5)
Lycoming (7,6,7,8,6)
Rowan (9,7,6,4,8)
Salisbury (6,9,8,7,NR)
St. Lawrence (8,NR,9,10,9)
Framingham State (NR,8,NR,9,NR)
Montclair State (NR,NR,NR,NR,7)
Brockport State (NR,NR,NR,NR,10)
Ithaca (NR,NR,10,NR,NR)
MIT (NR,10,NR,NR,NR)
Springfield (10,NR,NR,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:
#6t Lycoming at #3 Widener
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ExTartanPlayer

Really pretty minor stuff here, but...someone gave Springfield a #10 vote, but there's no vote for the 6-0 WNEC team that beat them (at Springfield) in week 1, and that confuses me a little bit.  If the h2h (admittedly a close game) wasn't enough to convince you, there's also the fact that WNEC beat Union much more decisively than Springfield did, games played in consecutive weeks.  I don't necessarily think WNEC is all that and a bag of chips (they've had a couple of close calls), I just don't see any rational argument for a vote to Springfield in that 10th spot unless you have WNEC in the top 9.
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Saxon73

With all the strange outcomes this year, Buff St vs. Utica could be a key matchup.  Bengals beware.
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dlippiel

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 20, 2014, 04:37:59 PM
Really pretty minor stuff here, but...someone gave Springfield a #10 vote, but there's no vote for the 6-0 WNEC team that beat them (at Springfield) in week 1, and that confuses me a little bit.  If the h2h (admittedly a close game) wasn't enough to convince you, there's also the fact that WNEC beat Union much more decisively than Springfield did, games played in consecutive weeks.  I don't necessarily think WNEC is all that and a bag of chips (they've had a couple of close calls), I just don't see any rational argument for a vote to Springfield in that 10th spot unless you have WNEC in the top 9.

It wasn't Dlip, however the Pride/WNE game was VERY close. Having seen both teams play twice Dlip  thinks The Pride was/is as good as if not a tad better than WNE. Also IDHO the Union comparison may not be the best. The Dutch are a mother****ing mess right now and are not half the team they were a couple of weeks ago...not that they were very good then either. So Dlip may not fully agree with the ranking here but he thinks it is valid considering what we know. Now of WNE ****ing homogenized everyone they have faced since the Pride game Dlip thinks this would be a bigger deal.

D3MAFAN

Had a tough time in my ballot this week with only looking at live stats for most games, but have to give a big "WOW" in Pat Coleman voice to Frostburg State, I didn't see that coming. Also, I am confused on how Salisbury continues to win, they ran for over 500 yards but gave up 500 yards passing to Hartwick and made some okay receivers look like Nigolian's and Acevedo's of the world. Makes me think that SJF should have thrown that Hail Mary a couple weeks ago, I think it would have worked. I think there was some talk about who should be higher between Del Val and Widener, I personally think Widener defense is better so I have them higher than Del Val on my ballot.

rams1102

Coming from a Montclair homer God Bless you for giving my Red Hawks a vote. More to follow Sat night.
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Boxer7806



DLIP... come on man. A win is a freaking win. Springfield should not be getting any votes ahead of WNEC. Do I think WNEC is a top ten team in the East? No, I do not. I feel 2 loss Endicott is better than they are after watching WNEC this weekend. If anything Union's close losses are looking worst now because the "good" teams they lost to don't look so "good" now. I see little to no rationale for the Springfield vote. But again, who cares, its the ten spot we are talking about here.

ECoastFootball

Quote from: Boxer7806 on October 21, 2014, 12:24:42 PM


DLIP... come on man. A win is a freaking win. Springfield should not be getting any votes ahead of WNEC. Do I think WNEC is a top ten team in the East? No, I do not. I feel 2 loss Endicott is better than they are after watching WNEC this weekend. If anything Union's close losses are looking worst now because the "good" teams they lost to don't look so "good" now. I see little to no rationale for the Springfield vote. But again, who cares, its the ten spot we are talking about here.

Im not sure if Endicott or WNEC are better, but I'd say it's about a coinflip. Sitting at 4-2 with your losses being Framingham and Rowan is not terrible. They could end up 8-2 with their losses being to two conference champs. Had WNEC played the same schedule I think they would most likely have the same record. That will be a good game in a few weeks.