East Region Fan Poll

[Boxer7806]

DLIP... come on man. A win is a freaking win. Springfield should not be getting any votes ahead of WNEC. Do I think WNEC is a top ten team in the East? No, I do not. I feel 2 loss Endicott is better than they are after watching WNEC this weekend. If anything Union's close losses are looking worst now because the "good" teams they lost to don't look so "good" now. I see little to no rationale for the Springfield vote. But again, who cares, its the ten spot we are talking about here.

Im not sure if Endicott or WNEC are better, but I'd say it's about a coinflip. Sitting at 4-2 with your losses being Framingham and Rowan is not terrible. They could end up 8-2 with their losses being to two conference champs. Had WNEC played the same schedule I think they would most likely have the same record. That will be a good game in a few weeks.

Endicott's other loss is Hobart. Fram's single loss is to Rowan. But I catch your drift.

[ITH radio]

I agree re WNE getting votes ahead of SC based on H2H. I do think SC would probably beat them if they played today, but end of day, the Bears have the H2H, so they'd be ranked above SC.

Curious as to SC-SLU pans out. Could see the Pride "upsetting" the Larries, but really hope SLU wins convincingly so that the potential for an interesting LL "title game" on 11/8 stays in play.

[dlippiel]

DLIP... come on man. A win is a freaking win. Springfield should not be getting any votes ahead of WNEC. Do I think WNEC is a top ten team in the East? No, I do not. I feel 2 loss Endicott is better than they are after watching WNEC this weekend. If anything Union's close losses are looking worst now because the "good" teams they lost to don't look so "good" now. I see little to no rationale for the Springfield vote. But again, who cares, its the ten spot we are talking about here.

Fair enough dude. Dlip does concur that that vote should have hit WNE before Springfield. Dlip loves talking about this stuff even if it is the 10 spot. really hoping WNE wins out in the NEFC man

[dlippiel]

I agree re WNE getting votes ahead of SC based on H2H. I do think SC would probably beat them if they played today, but end of day, the Bears have the H2H, so they'd be ranked above SC.

Curious as to SC-SLU pans out. Could see the Pride "upsetting" the Larries, but really hope SLU wins convincingly so that the potential for an interesting LL "title game" on 11/8 stays in play.

Dlip really pulling for SLU here Baker!

[dlippiel]

dlip had a tough time 5 down...

[ITH radio]

Is this the week the first regional rankings come out? Think it's next week (11/3) but either way, with 3 wkds left we're getting close.

Hoping that some of the non-AQ teams apply for ECACs so we have some good potential matchups there too.

[wally_wabash]

Is this the week the first regional rankings come out? Think it's next week (11/3) but either way, with 3 wkds left we're getting close.

Hoping that some of the non-AQ teams apply for ECACs so we have some good potential matchups there too.

The first published rankings will be on 11/5. 

[ITH radio]

Thx WW.

Here's my initial guess how the East first ranking may play out (assuming all the below win this wkd):

1. HOB
2. DVC (on acct of MSU win)
3. WID
4. SJF
5. MSU
6. FramSt
7. IC
8. HUS
9. END (if MIT wins they could be as high as 5)
10. SLU (barely edges MoSt on H2H and Lyco)

[fisheralum91]

I couldnt disagree more with the Del Val placement in that poll...

Body of work....

[ITH radio]

Keep in mind it's the NCAA, and undefeated teams get a bump in these rankings for better or for worse.

[ExTartanPlayer]

I couldnt disagree more with the Del Val placement in that poll...

Body of work....

"Body of work" doesn't really make sense there, does it? 

DelVal and Widener will be sorted out when they play one another, but for now DelVal has zero losses and wins over 6-1, current-NJAC-leading Montclair, and 5-2 Lycoming, which are  comparable to Fisher's best wins to date (we're not counting games that haven't been played yet), over 5-2 Otterbein and 5-2 Brockport State.  If you're using the "body of work" argument to suggest that St. John Fisher should be ranked over them, um, St. John Fisher's "body of work" includes a loss to a 4-3 Salisbury.  What's the "body of work" argument against Del Val?

[fisheralum91]

I wasnt making a case for Fisher.
I was stating that Del Vals body of work isnt worthy of a number 2.
My opinion.
I agree with your statement re Fisher....I just find it hard to believe that Del Val is a no2.
Yes things will work out down the road...
Understood.
Perhaps my verbiage was incorrect.

[ExTartanPlayer]

I wasnt making a case for Fisher.
I was stating that Del Vals body of work isnt worthy of a number 2.
My opinion.
I agree with your statement re Fisher....I just find it hard to believe that Del Val is a no2.
Yes things will work out down the road...
Understood.

Fair enough. 

My question, then, is that if Del Val's body of work (7-0 with a W against 6-1 NJAC leader) isn't worthy of a number 2, who else does have a body of work that merits such a lofty ranking? 

Widener?  They have basically the same resume as Del Val, although maybe you can argue Widener has been a little more dominant.

SJF, we covered already.

Montclair lost to DelVal.  Nope.

Framingham State, no way.

The Empire 8's cannibalization of itself, while fantastic competition (and indicative of terrific top to bottom conference strength), kinda hurts all of them from a rankings standpoint because it's hard to point to any signature wins for anybody or anyone with a great resume.  They've all beaten each other to the point that no one save SJF will have  a great resume by season's end.

If Del Val just doesn't "feel like" a #2 to you, OK, but then give me an alternative who does merit that ranking.

[fisheralum91]

Gut was Widener.

Heart was Fisher

[ITH radio]

The above is just a prediction. Thought process re DVC is they'd be 8-0 (which the NCAA always values) plus the win over MSU seems better than Widener's win over Rowan who's 4-3 and lost to MSU H2H. Obviously there are also teams in the LL, E8 and others that are (WAY) better than Husson who are likely to run the ECFC table and get the AQ.