East Region Fan Poll

[ExTartanPlayer]

I hear you, and that comment wasn't really directed at you.  I saw one of the teams called "stooges" in one of the threads, and it caused me to pause.
I think most of us have an issue with the powers that worked the system to create AQs for groups of teams that don't earn it in play or strength of schedule etc...especially when some more deserving teams get left out...but I direct my ire towards the NCAA (as I do with many other issues) and the manipulative conference leadership that created the system.  The players are playing in the conferences that are dictated, and they don't have any control of that, so i'll not denigrate their teams for that...

Actually, I spent the last several years defending the NEFC for not being as bad as some posters here made them out to be, too.  I probably shouldn't have used "stooges" as the word there, as an ex-player I often find myself defending players/teams from fan-bashing because I know that it's not as easy as it looks.  So sure, I'll apologize for that.  Replace "stooges" with "not quite as good teams" if you like.

I stand by the general tone of the initial post, which is that it's ridiculous for Husson or WPI to be getting a vote from someone that is not voting for Delaware Valley.  Agreeing with LD here; I believe DelVal would beat both teams by several scores.  This isn't a situation like Curry and/or Framingham State, both of whom eventually notched wins and/or highly-competitive-losses to prove that they were capably of competing with the region's "very good but not great" teams.

[AUPepBand]

Husson is a solid football team. They were very much in the game against Alfred (who many pollsters have climbing the poll). I wish they weren't in Bangor Maine so they could put together a better non-league schedule, and we'd have a better body of evidence to work off of. As it looks right now, they have TWO open weeks in a row before entering into league play. Nothing they do in league will help them gain or keep poll votes. So I'd be hard pressed to see them remaining in the poll in the weeks to come.

That being said they'll likely end the season as an 8-1 team with an AQ, and because of the 500 mile rule they'll either host or get a favorable New England match up in the first round...and we'll still have nothing to go off of besides a solid performance against a good (maybe real good?) Alfred team.

Pep heard that Husson was so much into the game with Alfred that it was rumored that the Eagles stalked the Saxons and, in fact, followed them back to Western New York some 12+ hours from Bangor where on Saterday it was actually reported that the Eagles were spotted hovering around Alfred on a nearby hillside, in a downpour no less. Seems like they didn't want that game to end. Truth is stranger than fiction!

On Saxon Warriors!

[Bombers798891]

That being said they'll likely end the season as an 8-1 team with an AQ, and because of the 500 mile rule they'll either host or get a favorable New England match up in the first round...and we'll still have nothing to go off of besides a solid performance against a good (maybe real good?) Alfred team.

And ultimately, that's nothing to be bummed about. To some degree, we're just arguing about stuff to argue. It doesn't really matter if Husson (or whoever wins the ECFC) is worse than Alfred (or whatever team they lose to OOC). What truly matters in the system we have, is that the ECFC teams win the right games to get where we all want to go

[lewdogg11]

I just put my pole in, and I have to tell ya, what a cluster #%*!.  The MAC is a complete S-show. I'm putting teams in the top 10 from that conference that ive never voted for in all my years doing this. Ithaca impressed yesterday for sure, but what does that do to Hobart?  Not much I don't think, but enough to make you wonder. Cortland...no idea with them. Do they even have a defense?  Do they need a defense?  I will say, Husson didn't crack my top 10 this week. WPI moved up to like 16 on my board. But we've seen this before from them so I'm not holding my breath. This season is wack so far. Interested to see the cumulative vote.

[jmcozenlaw]

I just put my pole in, and I have to tell ya, what a cluster #%*!.  The MAC is a complete S-show. I'm putting teams in the top 10 from that conference that ive never voted for in all my years doing this. Ithaca impressed yesterday for sure, but what does that do to Hobart?  Not much I don't think, but enough to make you wonder. Cortland...no idea with them. Do they even have a defense?  Do they need a defense?  I will say, Husson didn't crack my top 10 this week. WPI moved up to like 16 on my board. But we've seen this before from them so I'm not holding my breath. This season is wack so far. Interested to see the cumulative vote.

"The MAC is a complete S-show". Oh, ye LewDogg knows so very, very little about the essence of competitive balance within a conference. Give me a conference where six or seven teams have a shot......where every game means something......vs. a conference where teams are always playing for second place behind Mount Youngstown State Union, University of Wisconsin ww, Johns Hopkins and this year, Wesley. I'll take close games in a conference where the differences between 1 and 5/6 are miniscule vs. #1 being light years ahead, and a couple of teams "battling" for runner up.

As you were

[wesleydad]

I just put my pole in, and I have to tell ya, what a cluster #%*!.  The MAC is a complete S-show. I'm putting teams in the top 10 from that conference that ive never voted for in all my years doing this. Ithaca impressed yesterday for sure, but what does that do to Hobart?  Not much I don't think, but enough to make you wonder. Cortland...no idea with them. Do they even have a defense?  Do they need a defense?  I will say, Husson didn't crack my top 10 this week. WPI moved up to like 16 on my board. But we've seen this before from them so I'm not holding my breath. This season is wack so far. Interested to see the cumulative vote.

Lew, it is crazy but fun.  I saw Widener against Rowan and thought they would be limited offensively against a good defense.  Albright's comeback against Salisbury looks even more impressive with how Salisbury crushed Montclair yesterday.  The top is pretty solid with Wesley, Rowan, Ithaca, and Cortland, after that who knows.  But I am having fun trying to figure it out.

[bman]

Albright seems to throw a monkey wrench into my general opinion that it isn't so much that the other teams have stepped up, but that the usual top 3 (WU, Lyco and DVU) have sunk back to the pack.  Call it re-tooling or whatever you will...
The Albright result against SU, seems more impressive given SU's results, but I am keeping in mind that SU beat Montclair, who also lost to DVU, which makes that win a bit less impressive...

Hopefully I can see a bit of video, before I submit my picks...

[D3MAFAN]

I just put my pole in, and I have to tell ya, what a cluster #%*!.  The MAC is a complete S-show. I'm putting teams in the top 10 from that conference that ive never voted for in all my years doing this. Ithaca impressed yesterday for sure, but what does that do to Hobart?  Not much I don't think, but enough to make you wonder. Cortland...no idea with them. Do they even have a defense?  Do they need a defense?  I will say, Husson didn't crack my top 10 this week. WPI moved up to like 16 on my board. But we've seen this before from them so I'm not holding my breath. This season is wack so far. Interested to see the cumulative vote.

Lew, it is crazy but fun.  I saw Widener against Rowan and thought they would be limited offensively against a good defense.  Albright's comeback against Salisbury looks even more impressive with how Salisbury crushed Montclair yesterday.  The top is pretty solid with Wesley, Rowan, Ithaca, and Cortland, after that who knows.  But I am having fun trying to figure it out.

I agree, it is going to be very interesting to see how the rankings shape up. There were some games that had me " ", really? Nevertheless, I am only sold on one team (Wesley), the others I am awaiting to see how that next couple weeks shape out, but at least it is very interesting across all the conferences in the East.

[rams1102]

My poll is in. The top 4 is a no brainer. Then Steve#5 and Alfred#6. Now the rest B-Port, Hob, Alb & Utc. Right now 1 Beast then Ith & Row. I still think things will shake out after Week #5.

[lewdogg11]

I just put my pole in, and I have to tell ya, what a cluster #%*!.  The MAC is a complete S-show. I'm putting teams in the top 10 from that conference that ive never voted for in all my years doing this. Ithaca impressed yesterday for sure, but what does that do to Hobart?  Not much I don't think, but enough to make you wonder. Cortland...no idea with them. Do they even have a defense?  Do they need a defense?  I will say, Husson didn't crack my top 10 this week. WPI moved up to like 16 on my board. But we've seen this before from them so I'm not holding my breath. This season is wack so far. Interested to see the cumulative vote.

"The MAC is a complete S-show". Oh, ye LewDogg knows so very, very little about the essence of competitive balance within a conference. Give me a conference where six or seven teams have a shot......where every game means something......vs. a conference where teams are always playing for second place behind Mount Youngstown State Union, University of Wisconsin ww, Johns Hopkins and this year, Wesley. I'll take close games in a conference where the differences between 1 and 5/6 are miniscule vs. #1 being light years ahead, and a couple of teams "battling" for runner up.

As you were

Woa woah woah, step back from the ledge.  Take a few deep breaths.  Nowhere did I say the MAC stinks.  I said it's a sh##show.  Which it is.  Stevenson and Albright at the moment are undefeated both with 2 nice wins.  And then your usual suspects, DelVal, Lyco, and Widener haven't started great and might not be up to par.  I don't think many people on these boards(outside of the MAC) are familiar with Stevenson or Albright, so things are in disarray.  It's great for the conference I guess.  It doesn't mean the conference stinks.  Let's now remove our small girl panties and step into our magic undies.  It's all going to be ok.

As I was...

[Jonny Utah]

I just put my pole in, and I have to tell ya, what a cluster #%*!.  The MAC is a complete S-show. I'm putting teams in the top 10 from that conference that ive never voted for in all my years doing this. Ithaca impressed yesterday for sure, but what does that do to Hobart?  Not much I don't think, but enough to make you wonder. Cortland...no idea with them. Do they even have a defense?  Do they need a defense?  I will say, Husson didn't crack my top 10 this week. WPI moved up to like 16 on my board. But we've seen this before from them so I'm not holding my breath. This season is wack so far. Interested to see the cumulative vote.

"The MAC is a complete S-show". Oh, ye LewDogg knows so very, very little about the essence of competitive balance within a conference. Give me a conference where six or seven teams have a shot......where every game means something......vs. a conference where teams are always playing for second place behind Mount Youngstown State Union, University of Wisconsin ww, Johns Hopkins and this year, Wesley. I'll take close games in a conference where the differences between 1 and 5/6 are miniscule vs. #1 being light years ahead, and a couple of teams "battling" for runner up.

As you were

Woa woah woah, step back from the ledge.  Take a few deep breaths.  Nowhere did I say the MAC stinks.  I said it's a sh##show.  Which it is.  Stevenson and Albright at the moment are undefeated both with 2 nice wins.  And then your usual suspects, DelVal, Lyco, and Widener haven't started great and might not be up to par.  I don't think many people on these boards(outside of the MAC) are familiar with Stevenson or Albright, so things are in disarray.  It's great for the conference I guess.  It doesn't mean the conference stinks.  Let's now remove our small girl panties and step into our magic undies.  It's all going to be ok.

As I was...

The SEC is a ****e show this year.  As it is every year.

As you were.

[pg04]

I just put my pole in, and I have to tell ya, what a cluster #%*!.  The MAC is a complete S-show. I'm putting teams in the top 10 from that conference that ive never voted for in all my years doing this. Ithaca impressed yesterday for sure, but what does that do to Hobart?  Not much I don't think, but enough to make you wonder. Cortland...no idea with them. Do they even have a defense?  Do they need a defense?  I will say, Husson didn't crack my top 10 this week. WPI moved up to like 16 on my board. But we've seen this before from them so I'm not holding my breath. This season is wack so far. Interested to see the cumulative vote.

"The MAC is a complete S-show". Oh, ye LewDogg knows so very, very little about the essence of competitive balance within a conference. Give me a conference where six or seven teams have a shot......where every game means something......vs. a conference where teams are always playing for second place behind Mount Youngstown State Union, University of Wisconsin ww, Johns Hopkins and this year, Wesley. I'll take close games in a conference where the differences between 1 and 5/6 are miniscule vs. #1 being light years ahead, and a couple of teams "battling" for runner up.

As you were

Woa woah woah, step back from the ledge.  Take a few deep breaths.  Nowhere did I say the MAC stinks.  I said it's a sh##show.  Which it is.  Stevenson and Albright at the moment are undefeated both with 2 nice wins.  And then your usual suspects, DelVal, Lyco, and Widener haven't started great and might not be up to par.  I don't think many people on these boards(outside of the MAC) are familiar with Stevenson or Albright, so things are in disarray.  It's great for the conference I guess.  It doesn't mean the conference stinks.  Let's now remove our small girl panties and step into our magic undies.  It's all going to be ok.

As I was...

The SEC is a ****e show this year.  As it is every year.

As you were.

I can attest that people in SEC Country are quite delusional. Hoping the down of all the teams helps out UGA.

[bman]

I just put my pole in, and I have to tell ya, what a cluster #%*!.  The MAC is a complete S-show. I'm putting teams in the top 10 from that conference that ive never voted for in all my years doing this. Ithaca impressed yesterday for sure, but what does that do to Hobart?  Not much I don't think, but enough to make you wonder. Cortland...no idea with them. Do they even have a defense?  Do they need a defense?  I will say, Husson didn't crack my top 10 this week. WPI moved up to like 16 on my board. But we've seen this before from them so I'm not holding my breath. This season is wack so far. Interested to see the cumulative vote.

"The MAC is a complete S-show". Oh, ye LewDogg knows so very, very little about the essence of competitive balance within a conference. Give me a conference where six or seven teams have a shot......where every game means something......vs. a conference where teams are always playing for second place behind Mount Youngstown State Union, University of Wisconsin ww, Johns Hopkins and this year, Wesley. I'll take close games in a conference where the differences between 1 and 5/6 are miniscule vs. #1 being light years ahead, and a couple of teams "battling" for runner up.

As you were

Woa woah woah, step back from the ledge.  Take a few deep breaths.  Nowhere did I say the MAC stinks.  I said it's a sh##show.  Which it is.  Stevenson and Albright at the moment are undefeated both with 2 nice wins.  And then your usual suspects, DelVal, Lyco, and Widener haven't started great and might not be up to par.  I don't think many people on these boards(outside of the MAC) are familiar with Stevenson or Albright, so things are in disarray.  It's great for the conference I guess.  It doesn't mean the conference stinks.  Let's now remove our small girl panties and step into our magic undies.  It's all going to be ok.

As I was...

Well I think the conference (MAC) kinda stinks right now...
I'm not on a ledge, but when I look at the conference as a whole, there doesn't seem to be any team (including Albright and Stevenson) at this point that looks like it can go a round or two deep in the playoffs...and forget anything further.  And yes, I realize the season is early....I'll revert to my previous point, that the frontrunners seemed to have regressed, rather than the mid pack teams moving forward.   No disrespect toward any of the teams or the conference, but it's just the way I see it right now...

[lewdogg11]

I just put my pole in, and I have to tell ya, what a cluster #%*!.  The MAC is a complete S-show. I'm putting teams in the top 10 from that conference that ive never voted for in all my years doing this. Ithaca impressed yesterday for sure, but what does that do to Hobart?  Not much I don't think, but enough to make you wonder. Cortland...no idea with them. Do they even have a defense?  Do they need a defense?  I will say, Husson didn't crack my top 10 this week. WPI moved up to like 16 on my board. But we've seen this before from them so I'm not holding my breath. This season is wack so far. Interested to see the cumulative vote.

"The MAC is a complete S-show". Oh, ye LewDogg knows so very, very little about the essence of competitive balance within a conference. Give me a conference where six or seven teams have a shot......where every game means something......vs. a conference where teams are always playing for second place behind Mount Youngstown State Union, University of Wisconsin ww, Johns Hopkins and this year, Wesley. I'll take close games in a conference where the differences between 1 and 5/6 are miniscule vs. #1 being light years ahead, and a couple of teams "battling" for runner up.

As you were

Woa woah woah, step back from the ledge.  Take a few deep breaths.  Nowhere did I say the MAC stinks.  I said it's a sh##show.  Which it is.  Stevenson and Albright at the moment are undefeated both with 2 nice wins.  And then your usual suspects, DelVal, Lyco, and Widener haven't started great and might not be up to par.  I don't think many people on these boards(outside of the MAC) are familiar with Stevenson or Albright, so things are in disarray.  It's great for the conference I guess.  It doesn't mean the conference stinks.  Let's now remove our small girl panties and step into our magic undies.  It's all going to be ok.

As I was...

Well I think the conference (MAC) kinda stinks right now...
I'm not on a ledge, but when I look at the conference as a whole, there doesn't seem to be any team (including Albright and Stevenson) at this point that looks like it can go a round or two deep in the playoffs...and forget anything further.  And yes, I realize the season is early....I'll revert to my previous point, that the frontrunners seemed to have regressed, rather than the mid pack teams moving forward.   No disrespect toward any of the teams or the conference, but it's just the way I see it right now...

I would agree with this, minus there being a complete unknown if Stevenson and Albright are even any good.  When have they ever done anything?  Albright has been up and down over the years but never a dominant force.  We just don't know.  I do think i'm gonna just start calling Stevenson 'The Steve'.  I think I can get behind that.

[lewdogg11]

You off gallivantin' with your fancy fool's ball friends at school, while I'm sittin' here all day with nobody to keep me company, except Steve?