East Region Fan Poll

[wesleydad]

but I am curious how they will fair against better defenses (i.e. St. Thomas, Wheaton, and UW-Oshkosh).

*clears throat loudly*

Need a cough drop?

The way things are going, I expect they will get the chance to see how they do against a "good defense".  Rowan supposedly has one and that didn't go well for them.  The secondary was really good, yet struggled to cover everything Wesley has to throw at them.  I am more concerned about how they do against a really good offense.

[@d3jason]

but I am curious how they will fair against better defenses (i.e. St. Thomas, Wheaton, and UW-Oshkosh).

*clears throat loudly*

Need a cough drop?

The way things are going, I expect they will get the chance to see how they do against a "good defense".  Rowan supposedly has one and that didn't go well for them.  The secondary was really good, yet struggled to cover everything Wesley has to throw at them. I am more concerned about how they do against a really good offense.

This.
I would say that Rowan is as athletic and physical as any of those defenses. Wesley didn't have to punt. They threw two interceptions and turned it over on downs a few times in Rowan territory.

[D3MAFAN]

but I am curious how they will fair against better defenses (i.e. St. Thomas, Wheaton, and UW-Oshkosh).

*clears throat loudly*

Need a cough drop?

The way things are going, I expect they will get the chance to see how they do against a "good defense".  Rowan supposedly has one and that didn't go well for them.  The secondary was really good, yet struggled to cover everything Wesley has to throw at them. I am more concerned about how they do against a really good offense.

This.
I would say that Rowan is as athletic and physical as any of those defenses. Wesley didn't have to punt. They threw two interceptions and turned it over on downs a few times in Rowan territory.

Choosing not to punt or fg and turning the ball on downs is pretty much the same in my book.

[AUKaz00]

Week 8 Fan Poll

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Wesley ( 7 )	7-0	70	1	at Montclair State
2   Salisbury	5-1	60	3	vs. Christopher Newport
3t  Cortland State	7-1	51	5	at Morrisville State
3t  Delaware Valley	6-1	51	6	vs. Lebanon Valley
5   Albright	6-1	38	2	at King's
6   Rowan	5-2	34	4	vs. Frostburg State
7   St. Lawrence	6-1	24	9	vs. WPI
8   Western New England	7-0	17	7	at MIT
9   Stevenson	6-1	16	8	vs. Endicott
10t Alfred	5-2	8	NR	at Brockport State
10t Buffalo State	5-2	8	NR	at Hartwick

Dropping Out:
Framingham State


Also Receiving votes:               
Framingham State 6
Frostburg State 2
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Wesley (1,1,1,1,1,1,1)
Salisbury (2,2,5,2,2,2,2)
Cortland State (3,6,3,3,3,5,3)
Delaware Valley (4,4,2,5,4,3,4)
Albright (5,7,4,6,5,6,6)
Rowan (6,3,7,4,NR,4,8)
St. Lawrence (9,9,6,8,8,8,5)
Western New England (7,10,8,10,6,9,10)
Stevenson (8,8,10,7,10,7,NR)
Alfred (NR,NR,NR,9,9,NR,7)
Buffalo State (NR,5,NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Framingham State (10,NR,NR,NR,7,10,NR)
Frostburg State (NR,NR,9,NR,NR,NR,NR)


Key Matchups:

[@d3jason]

but I am curious how they will fair against better defenses (i.e. St. Thomas, Wheaton, and UW-Oshkosh).

*clears throat loudly*

Need a cough drop?

The way things are going, I expect they will get the chance to see how they do against a "good defense".  Rowan supposedly has one and that didn't go well for them.  The secondary was really good, yet struggled to cover everything Wesley has to throw at them. I am more concerned about how they do against a really good offense.

This.
I would say that Rowan is as athletic and physical as any of those defenses. Wesley didn't have to punt. They threw two interceptions and turned it over on downs a few times in Rowan territory.

Choosing not to punt or fg and turning the ball on downs is pretty much the same in my book.

Not if you make it. 

[AUPepBand]

Week 8 Fan Poll

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Wesley ( 7 )	7-0	70	1	at Montclair State
2   Salisbury	5-1	60	3	vs. Christopher Newport
3t  Cortland State	7-1	51	5	at Morrisville State
3t  Delaware Valley	6-1	51	6	vs. Lebanon Valley
5   Albright	6-1	38	2	at King's
6   Rowan	5-2	34	4	vs. Frostburg State
7   St. Lawrence	6-1	24	9	vs. WPI
8   Western New England	7-0	17	7	at MIT
9   Stevenson	6-1	16	8	at Wilkes
10t Alfred	5-2	8	NR	at Brockport State
10t Buffalo State	5-2	8	NR	at Hartwick

Dropping Out:
Framingham State


Also Receiving votes:               
Framingham State 6
Frostburg State 2
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Wesley (1,1,1,1,1,1,1)
Salisbury (2,2,5,2,2,2,2)
Cortland State (3,6,3,3,3,5,3)
Delaware Valley (4,4,2,5,4,3,4)
Albright (5,7,4,6,5,6,6)
Rowan (6,3,7,4,NR,4,8)
St. Lawrence (9,9,6,8,8,8,5)
Western New England (7,10,8,10,6,9,10)
Stevenson (8,8,10,7,10,7,NR)
Alfred (NR,NR,NR,9,9,NR,7)
Buffalo State (NR,5,NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Framingham State (10,NR,NR,NR,7,10,NR)
Frostburg State (NR,NR,9,NR,NR,NR,NR)

Please note correction in schedule from Kaz00's post.

[jknezek]

I love that Salisbury has all 2s and a 5! You guys have a hard region. The North and South are only a mess after 5, you guys are duking it out at 2.

[bman]

I love that Salisbury has all 2s and a 5! You guys have a hard region. The North and South are only a mess after 5, you guys are duking it out at 2.

Here's how I see it:

Team                 
1   Wesley
2t   Salisbury
2t  Cortland State
2t  Delaware Valley
2t   Albright
2t   Rowan
2t   St. Lawrence
2t   Western New England 
2t   Stevenson
2t Alfred
2t Buffalo State
2t Framingham State
2t Frostburg St.
12t  everyone else...

[ExTartanPlayer]

I love that Salisbury has all 2s and a 5! You guys have a hard region. The North and South are only a mess after 5, you guys are duking it out at 2.

I think the tough thing about Salisbury is that they have a h2h loss to Albright.  I totally understand folks thinking that Del Val beating Albright is enough to drop Albright a few slots, and move Salisbury up to #2, but I presume that the #5 vote for Salisbury is the person who has Albright at #4 because they don't want to violate the h2h result between teams with otherwise comparable resumes (and then Del Val presumably is ahead of Albright and Salisbury on this ballot).  I think that's defensible.  It's kind of like bman's post...there are so many 1-loss teams that have a loss to someone else in the lot that you really can put them all into a hat, pick any two, and who knows who will win. 

I have to admit that I'm vaguely intrigued by the surprising Frostburg State, who took a pounding from Wesley and has quietly kept on trucking with just that 1 loss.  They might end up losing to Salisbury by 40, or maybe they'll pull a stunner and put the East into even more chaos.

(Actually, if that happens, you could make a pretty strong case for taking Frostburg from currently being unranked all the way up to #2; they would have beaten one of the other highly regarded poll contenders for the #2 spot, and would only have a loss to #1).

[dlippiel]

I love that Salisbury has all 2s and a 5! You guys have a hard region. The North and South are only a mess after 5, you guys are duking it out at 2.

I think the tough thing about Salisbury is that they have a h2h loss to Albright.  I totally understand folks thinking that Del Val beating Albright is enough to drop Albright a few slots, and move Salisbury up to #2, but I presume that the #5 vote for Salisbury is the person who has Albright at #4 because they don't want to violate the h2h result between teams with otherwise comparable resumes (and then Del Val presumably is ahead of Albright and Salisbury on this ballot).  I think that's defensible.  It's kind of like bman's post...there are so many 1-loss teams that have a loss to someone else in the lot that you really can put them all into a hat, pick any two, and who knows who will win. 

I have to admit that I'm vaguely intrigued by the surprising Frostburg State, who took a pounding from Wesley and has quietly kept on trucking with just that 1 loss.  They might end up losing to Salisbury by 40, or maybe they'll pull a stunner and put the East into even more chaos.

(Actually, if that happens, you could make a pretty strong case for taking Frostburg from currently being unranked all the way up to #2; they would have beaten one of the other highly regarded poll contenders for the #2 spot, and would only have a loss to #1).

entertaining point tart!

[wesleydad]

I love that Salisbury has all 2s and a 5! You guys have a hard region. The North and South are only a mess after 5, you guys are duking it out at 2.

I think the tough thing about Salisbury is that they have a h2h loss to Albright.  I totally understand folks thinking that Del Val beating Albright is enough to drop Albright a few slots, and move Salisbury up to #2, but I presume that the #5 vote for Salisbury is the person who has Albright at #4 because they don't want to violate the h2h result between teams with otherwise comparable resumes (and then Del Val presumably is ahead of Albright and Salisbury on this ballot).  I think that's defensible.  It's kind of like bman's post...there are so many 1-loss teams that have a loss to someone else in the lot that you really can put them all into a hat, pick any two, and who knows who will win. 

I have to admit that I'm vaguely intrigued by the surprising Frostburg State, who took a pounding from Wesley and has quietly kept on trucking with just that 1 loss.  They might end up losing to Salisbury by 40, or maybe they'll pull a stunner and put the East into even more chaos.

(Actually, if that happens, you could make a pretty strong case for taking Frostburg from currently being unranked all the way up to #2; they would have beaten one of the other highly regarded poll contenders for the #2 spot, and would only have a loss to #1).

entertaining point tart!

I expect Frostburg to lose this weekend to Rowan.  If they win that one, they will move onto my ballot.  I can't put them on right now because they got trounced by Wesley.  As far as Salisbury ahead of Albright despite the h2h.  Salisbury and Albright are even in my mind, actually I think Salisbury is better since they led 23 - 3 in the 4th and blew the game.  I am not sold on Del Val so I put Salisbury second.  It is interesting how each week I almost have to do a new poll since so much changes from the week before.

[CNU85]

I love that Salisbury has all 2s and a 5! You guys have a hard region. The North and South are only a mess after 5, you guys are duking it out at 2.

I think the tough thing about Salisbury is that they have a h2h loss to Albright.  I totally understand folks thinking that Del Val beating Albright is enough to drop Albright a few slots, and move Salisbury up to #2, but I presume that the #5 vote for Salisbury is the person who has Albright at #4 because they don't want to violate the h2h result between teams with otherwise comparable resumes (and then Del Val presumably is ahead of Albright and Salisbury on this ballot).  I think that's defensible.  It's kind of like bman's post...there are so many 1-loss teams that have a loss to someone else in the lot that you really can put them all into a hat, pick any two, and who knows who will win. 

I have to admit that I'm vaguely intrigued by the surprising Frostburg State, who took a pounding from Wesley and has quietly kept on trucking with just that 1 loss.  They might end up losing to Salisbury by 40, or maybe they'll pull a stunner and put the East into even more chaos.

(Actually, if that happens, you could make a pretty strong case for taking Frostburg from currently being unranked all the way up to #2; they would have beaten one of the other highly regarded poll contenders for the #2 spot, and would only have a loss to #1).

entertaining point tart!

I expect Frostburg to lose this weekend to Rowan.  If they win that one, they will move onto my ballot.  I can't put them on right now because they got trounced by Wesley.  As far as Salisbury ahead of Albright despite the h2h.  Salisbury and Albright are even in my mind, actually I think Salisbury is better since they led 23 - 3 in the 4th and blew the game.  I am not sold on Del Val so I put Salisbury second.  It is interesting how each week I almost have to do a new poll since so much changes from the week before.

I have seen both Frostburg and Rowan... that has the potential to be a really fun game to watch!

[dlippiel]

Dlip just worries about the Gulls D. To dlip they are similar to Cortland in that they could put points up on almost anyone in the nation...however when it comes to stopping anyone the story is a little different.

[D3MAFAN]

I love that Salisbury has all 2s and a 5! You guys have a hard region. The North and South are only a mess after 5, you guys are duking it out at 2.

Here's how I see it:

Team                 
1   Wesley
2t   Salisbury
2t  Cortland State
2t  Delaware Valley
2t   Albright
2t   Rowan
2t   St. Lawrence
2t   Western New England 
2t   Stevenson
2t Alfred
2t Buffalo State
2t Framingham State
2t Frostburg St.
12t  everyone else...

Or was it...
1   Wesley
2   Salisbury
3  Cortland State
4  Delaware Valley
5   Albright
6   Rowan
7   St. Lawrence
8   Western New England 
9   Stevenson
10 Alfred
11 Buffalo State
12 Framingham State
13 Frostburg St.
14 everyone else...

[wesleydad]

another week of carnage.  starting to turn into 52 pick up.  put the names on paper except for wesley, shuffle them up and whoever is on top is #2.  there is so little to separate them and they all have beaten someone else on the list and lost to someone not on the list.  the regional ranking will be very interesting.  looking ahead to the playoffs, if wesley wins out, are they the #3 top seed behind Mount and Linfield but ahead of hardin simmons who looks like they would be the top south team.  i think linfield gets the west top over oshkosh.  i also expect some shuffling of teams to strengthen up the weaker looking east bracket.  st thomas looks like they could also be a top seed consideration.  this could be an interesting next few weeks around the nation.