East Region Fan Poll

[AUPepBand]

another week of carnage.  starting to turn into 52 pick up.  put the names on paper except for wesley, shuffle them up and whoever is on top is #2.  there is so little to separate them and they all have beaten someone else on the list and lost to someone not on the list.  the regional ranking will be very interesting.  looking ahead to the playoffs, if wesley wins out, are they the #3 top seed behind Mount and Linfield but ahead of hardin simmons who looks like they would be the top south team.  i think linfield gets the west top over oshkosh.  i also expect some shuffling of teams to strengthen up the weaker looking east bracket.  st thomas looks like they could also be a top seed consideration.  this could be an interesting next few weeks around the nation.

Masterful word picture of the East Region Fan Poll!  +K

You know how regional rankings for basketball and soccer have a variety of number of teams ranked, from region to region?
Perhaps the NCAA Football Committee will offer up an East Regional Ranking of:
1) Wesley (8-0)

That's it. There are no more teams in the East deserving of a regional ranking.

[wesleydad]

another week of carnage.  starting to turn into 52 pick up.  put the names on paper except for wesley, shuffle them up and whoever is on top is #2.  there is so little to separate them and they all have beaten someone else on the list and lost to someone not on the list.  the regional ranking will be very interesting.  looking ahead to the playoffs, if wesley wins out, are they the #3 top seed behind Mount and Linfield but ahead of hardin simmons who looks like they would be the top south team.  i think linfield gets the west top over oshkosh.  i also expect some shuffling of teams to strengthen up the weaker looking east bracket.  st thomas looks like they could also be a top seed consideration.  this could be an interesting next few weeks around the nation.

Masterful word picture of the East Region Fan Poll!  +K

You know how regional rankings for basketball and soccer have a variety of number of teams ranked, from region to region?
Perhaps the NCAA Football Committee will offer up an East Regional Ranking of:
1) Wesley (8-0)

That's it. There are no more teams in the East deserving of a regional ranking.

+1 very funny.  sadly maybe true in the larger scheme of things.  hopefully as east team or 2 will end up in another bracket and win a game or 2 to make the east look better than it currently does nationwide.

[Div3Fan]

hopefully as east team or 2 will end up in another bracket and win a game or 2 to make the east look better than it currently does nationwide.

This is what I'm hoping for. Will bring clarity to whether the east is actually down, or if there happens to be more parity this year.

[bman]

I'm wondering how much this carnage actually will hurt the region come playoffs.  I get the sense that there has to be some movement from the South and North to even out the bracket is inevitable...

[bman]

Uproar alert....
I am working on my poll, and I will be upfront in that it will look vastly different than in previous weeks.

But H@ll...why not...

I'll be glad to discuss....

[Bartman]

IMO St. Lawrence should be given stronger recognition in this poll. If St.Lawrence handles Hobart(a big IF since Hobart offense finally read the playbook and Sweeney is now healthy), I think they are #2 in the East , especially after their one loss to a Morrisville team that took care of Cortland this weekend. I know the counter will be the LL league lost the tough OOC games early in the season, but I have watched the improvement in the league( SLU, RPI, Rochester as examples) during conference play and the LL is stronger than many here may believe. Alfred also deserves strong recognition as they look like the most balanced team in the E8 , especially as defense becomes the differentiator into the deep fall. I am not convinced the best of the MAC , runner up to Wesley in the NJAC or Western New England has anything over SLU or Alfred at this point in the season.  I have no Ballot, but interested in final outcome here and Regional rankings.

[wesleydad]

IMO St. Lawrence should be given stronger recognition in this poll. If St.Lawrence handles Hobart(a big IF since Hobart offense finally read the playbook and Sweeney is now healthy), I think they are #2 in the East , especially after their one loss to a Morrisville team that took care of Cortland this weekend. I know the counter will be the LL league lost the tough OOC games early in the season, but I have watched the improvement in the league( SLU, RPI, Rochester as examples) during conference play and the LL is stronger than many here may believe. Alfred also deserves strong recognition as they look like the most balanced team in the E8 , especially as defense becomes the differentiator into the deep fall. I am not convinced the best of the MAC , runner up to Wesley in the NJAC or Western New England has anything over SLU or Alfred at this point in the season.  I have no Ballot, but interested in final outcome here and Regional rankings.

no issue here, I have St Lawrence 3, behind wesley and del val.  I have alfred 7 behind cortland due to h2h result.  after wesley you can argue for almost anyone at this point.  I have del val at 2 purely on other teams losing.  too many this team beat that team who beat the other team who beat another team who beat someone else.  crazy.

[bman]

IMO St. Lawrence should be given stronger recognition in this poll. If St.Lawrence handles Hobart(a big IF since Hobart offense finally read the playbook and Sweeney is now healthy), I think they are #2 in the East , especially after their one loss to a Morrisville team that took care of Cortland this weekend. I know the counter will be the LL league lost the tough OOC games early in the season, but I have watched the improvement in the league( SLU, RPI, Rochester as examples) during conference play and the LL is stronger than many here may believe. Alfred also deserves strong recognition as they look like the most balanced team in the E8 , especially as defense becomes the differentiator into the deep fall. I am not convinced the best of the MAC , runner up to Wesley in the NJAC or Western New England has anything over SLU or Alfred at this point in the season.  I have no Ballot, but interested in final outcome here and Regional rankings.

I reshuffled the deck, but I have the Larries way up there as well...

[AUPepBand]

Will be interesting to see whether Buffalo State gets a #5 vote from Kaz again this week....
Still puzzled by the Bengals laying an egg in the bird cage. Perhaps the Cardinals can also lay an egg in the Hawks' nest on the hill.

[gordonmann]

If Del Val is the third best team in this region, that says a lot. While they are getting better, they are not a Top 20 team as the national poll suggests. I don't think the coaching staff would disagree.

Del Val has had a good program for a while now, so it's tough to sell them as underdogs. But the Aggies have overachieved this year after replacing every starter from last season, most of the defense and both kickers. They've already lost their best offensive lineman and leading tackler to season-ending injuries and took a while to settle on a quarterback.

They are a young team that won some games they probably shouldn't have (Stevenson, Albright) and lost one they shouldn't have. Hard to imagine they are going to win the league with all that's happened, though the coaching staff deserves major credit for navigating all these changes.

For what it's worth, I think Albright is Top 25 worthy. They are well balanced, have a really nice corps of receivers and good run defense. Against Del Val their All-American kicker missed three kicks and they had two red zone chances turn into an interception and a fourth-and-half-a-yard stop. Del Val isn't going to apologize for winning the game, but I don't know if they beat Albright three games in a five-game series.

[ExTartanPlayer]

If Del Val is the third best team in this region, that says a lot. While they are getting better, they are not a Top 20 team as the national poll suggests. I don't think the coaching staff would disagree.

Del Val has had a good program for a while now, so it's tough to sell them as underdogs. But the Aggies have overachieved this year after replacing every starter from last season, most of the defense and both kickers. They've already lost their best offensive lineman and leading tackler to season-ending injuries and took a while to settle on a quarterback.

They are a young team that won some games they probably shouldn't have (Stevenson, Albright) and lost one they shouldn't have. Hard to imagine they are going to win the league with all that's happened, though the coaching staff deserves major credit for navigating all these changes.

For what it's worth, I think Albright is Top 25 worthy. They are well balanced, have a really nice corps of receivers and good run defense. Against Del Val their All-American kicker missed three kicks and they had two red zone chances turn into an interception and a fourth-and-half-a-yard stop. Del Val isn't going to apologize for winning the game, but I don't know if they beat Albright three games in a five-game series.

Yeah, I was kind of thinking that the gap in the D3fb poll between Del Val (18th) and Albright (10 total points in the ORV) seemed a little large.  I am a believer in sticking to h2h results where possible in the rankings and would have Del Val ranked ahead of Albright, but I think I'd have them very close together if I were a top 25 voter.

[dlippiel]

IMO St. Lawrence should be given stronger recognition in this poll. If St.Lawrence handles Hobart(a big IF since Hobart offense finally read the playbook and Sweeney is now healthy), I think they are #2 in the East , especially after their one loss to a Morrisville team that took care of Cortland this weekend. I know the counter will be the LL league lost the tough OOC games early in the season, but I have watched the improvement in the league( SLU, RPI, Rochester as examples) during conference play and the LL is stronger than many here may believe. Alfred also deserves strong recognition as they look like the most balanced team in the E8 , especially as defense becomes the differentiator into the deep fall. I am not convinced the best of the MAC , runner up to Wesley in the NJAC or Western New England has anything over SLU or Alfred at this point in the season.  I have no Ballot, but interested in final outcome here and Regional rankings.

dlip will say that (he knows it was against Union whose secondary struggles) Hobart's offense was about 10 times better than he expected. He has no idea how they lost to Springfield...none. It seems to dlip that almost every player on that team is an athlete and capable of competing at a high level. Maybe SAturday was their coming out party for 2015 and things are rolling on all cylinders. dlip was impressed with SLU but the Saints must keep their heads up and approach their upcoming meeting with the Pumpkinheads as nothing short of a playoff game.

dlip also feels that SLU is deserving of a high ranking. Not only as a result of Mo'Ville's win over a literally "defenseless" Cortland team but also take into account that the game was the first of the season for both teams. SLU had lofty expectations placed on their shoulders going into this year and dlip really thinks it just took them awhile to get themselves going in that game. Hobart/SLU match-up will be a good one. Honestly, and dlip knows he'll probably get some **** for this but he was as impressed if not more impressed with the athleticism and execution play of Hobart this season than the past two...not saying this is the case just his thoughts.

[AUKaz00]

Did Lewdogg actually retire?...

He's listed as guest now....

this is where we need 'gro to step in and discuss frozen cat turds etc...to reduce the tension...

LD11 and Frank should sit down over some Irish Car Bombs and discuss wooden shoes...it will all be alright....

Well, that puts a kink into the ERFP.

[Bartman]

IMO St. Lawrence should be given stronger recognition in this poll. If St.Lawrence handles Hobart(a big IF since Hobart offense finally read the playbook and Sweeney is now healthy), I think they are #2 in the East , especially after their one loss to a Morrisville team that took care of Cortland this weekend. I know the counter will be the LL league lost the tough OOC games early in the season, but I have watched the improvement in the league( SLU, RPI, Rochester as examples) during conference play and the LL is stronger than many here may believe. Alfred also deserves strong recognition as they look like the most balanced team in the E8 , especially as defense becomes the differentiator into the deep fall. I am not convinced the best of the MAC , runner up to Wesley in the NJAC or Western New England has anything over SLU or Alfred at this point in the season.  I have no Ballot, but interested in final outcome here and Regional rankings.

no issue here, I have St Lawrence 3, behind wesley and del val.  I have alfred 7 behind cortland due to h2h result.  after wesley you can argue for almost anyone at this point.  I have del val at 2 purely on other teams losing.  too many this team beat that team who beat the other team who beat another team who beat someone else.  crazy.

Wesleydad, always enjoy your perspective.  How do feel about Wesley this year? Offensive looks typically awesome, however the defense does not look as intimidating as the team I saw Hobart struggle against in last year's playoffs.

[thewaterboy]

IMO St. Lawrence should be given stronger recognition in this poll. If St.Lawrence handles Hobart(a big IF since Hobart offense finally read the playbook and Sweeney is now healthy), I think they are #2 in the East , especially after their one loss to a Morrisville team that took care of Cortland this weekend. I know the counter will be the LL league lost the tough OOC games early in the season, but I have watched the improvement in the league( SLU, RPI, Rochester as examples) during conference play and the LL is stronger than many here may believe. Alfred also deserves strong recognition as they look like the most balanced team in the E8 , especially as defense becomes the differentiator into the deep fall. I am not convinced the best of the MAC , runner up to Wesley in the NJAC or Western New England has anything over SLU or Alfred at this point in the season.  I have no Ballot, but interested in final outcome here and Regional rankings.

no issue here, I have St Lawrence 3, behind wesley and del val.  I have alfred 7 behind cortland due to h2h result.  after wesley you can argue for almost anyone at this point.  I have del val at 2 purely on other teams losing.  too many this team beat that team who beat the other team who beat another team who beat someone else.  crazy.

Wesleydad, always enjoy your perspective.  How do feel about Wesley this year? Offensive looks typically awesome, however the defense does not look as intimidating as the team I saw Hobart struggle against in last year's playoffs.

Bartman, I'm not wesleydad, but I'm going to offer my perspective anyway  IMO, Wesley's O is perhaps better than last year. Their RB has been able to run between the tackles, so it is not all on Callahan to make stuff happen. It is a much more balanced attack and teams have to respect the run more than in the past IMO. It has shown in the stats as well as Baynard has ran for over 100 yards in every game except for So. Va. and Kean (averaging 125 a game still). The receiving corps has been able to absorb the loss of Koudossou.

The defense to me is a little concerning. Wesley is trying to break in all new LBs, and injuries has made it harder to do that. I think they have the athletes (granted losing Kapepula is hard to replace), but there are a lot of mental errors IMO. i.e. biting too hard on a play action and linebackers being out of position. Growing pains I guess.