East Region Fan Poll

[bman]

Guess I'll get out my blender tomorrow when going through the teams for the weekly ranking. 

I'll just toss them in...
Maybe I'll just make WNE #1...

[Bartman]

NCAA  needs to double the field and add a week to the tournament. This season is Crazy.

[wesleydad]

Looking at the regional rankings there is as good a chance as any that Wesley stays at #1.  Is there any chance a 2 loss Cortland or Framingham move up to #1.  The only team that might jump to #1 is Albright and that means they would have to jump both Cortland and Framingham which is not likely.  I have to figure that Salisbury moves into the top 10.  The only 1 loss teams in the rankings are Wesley, Albright, and Framingham.  I am thinking Wesley, Albright, Cortland, and Framingham in some order next and then who knows.  Stevenson probably drops out and Salisbury moved in.  With Del Val losing Wesley is likely the first team on the board for the east and if Salisbury moves into rankings and North Central moves into the North than a 1-1 RRO and decent SOS should get Wesley in.  Then I would look for a potential rematch with Salisbury in round 2 with the winner going to alliance for the region final.  This week was just crazy around the region.  Insanity.

[D3MAFAN]

Okay, let's play a game. The first person to name their team, will be my number 1 team this week.

[jknezek]

Okay, let's play a game. The first person to name their team, will be my number 1 team this week.

Western New England!

[pg04]

Obviously, Western New England is the class of the Eastern Region. 

[AUPepBand]

Pep has a suggestion as an easy solution for pollsters puzzling about the #1 team in the East Region: Amherst (7-0)!! 

Then go ahead and play 52-pick-up with the rest of your East Region teams...

[AUKaz00]

i am going to ignore all h2h stuff since there are so many games that contradict other games and go with records.  I still think Wesley is the best team even after the mess I saw today.  Since everyone has at least 1 loss it almost goes back to the beginning of the year.  They were the best team then and I think still the best team now.  I will talk about the game today on the NJAC board.  The only other team in the discussion to me at this point for #1 is Salisbury.  All this means is that Mount will be on top of a bracket that has a lot of east teams in it since there is so many good teams in the west.  Looks like someone will have to go to Mount in the quarters.

I started over from scratch as well, writing down records and point differential for all the teams.  Looking at that along with who lost to who (by how much and where), I think I have a handle on this mess.  For the record, in my rankings I like to factor in a home field advantage of 3 points to try and simulate who would win on a neutral field, so for instance the St. Lawrence 2 point loss at Hobart suddenly looks a little better for the Larries.  As subjective as anything else at this point, I guess.

[wally_wabash]

Looking at the regional rankings there is as good a chance as any that Wesley stays at #1.  Is there any chance a 2 loss Cortland or Framingham move up to #1.  The only team that might jump to #1 is Albright and that means they would have to jump both Cortland and Framingham which is not likely.  I have to figure that Salisbury moves into the top 10.  The only 1 loss teams in the rankings are Wesley, Albright, and Framingham.  I am thinking Wesley, Albright, Cortland, and Framingham in some order next and then who knows.  Stevenson probably drops out and Salisbury moved in.  With Del Val losing Wesley is likely the first team on the board for the east and if Salisbury moves into rankings and North Central moves into the North than a 1-1 RRO and decent SOS should get Wesley in.  Then I would look for a potential rematch with Salisbury in round 2 with the winner going to alliance for the region final.  This week was just crazy around the region.  Insanity.

I really don't see a logical reason for Wesley to be ranked ahead of Albright given the common opponent result.  From a poll perspective, sure.  People can and will pretty universally vote Wesley ahead of Albright.  But for the regional rankings, I think you have to pretty blatantly ignore some things to wind up with Wesley in front of Albright. 

[ExTartanPlayer]

Looking at the regional rankings there is as good a chance as any that Wesley stays at #1.  Is there any chance a 2 loss Cortland or Framingham move up to #1.  The only team that might jump to #1 is Albright and that means they would have to jump both Cortland and Framingham which is not likely.  I have to figure that Salisbury moves into the top 10.  The only 1 loss teams in the rankings are Wesley, Albright, and Framingham.  I am thinking Wesley, Albright, Cortland, and Framingham in some order next and then who knows.  Stevenson probably drops out and Salisbury moved in.  With Del Val losing Wesley is likely the first team on the board for the east and if Salisbury moves into rankings and North Central moves into the North than a 1-1 RRO and decent SOS should get Wesley in.  Then I would look for a potential rematch with Salisbury in round 2 with the winner going to alliance for the region final.  This week was just crazy around the region.  Insanity.

I really don't see a logical reason for Wesley to be ranked ahead of Albright given the common opponent result.  From a poll perspective, sure.  People can and will pretty universally vote Wesley ahead of Albright.  But for the regional rankings, I think you have to pretty blatantly ignore some things to wind up with Wesley in front of Albright.

Agreed.  I was wondering if a team had ever stayed ranked #1 in a week where they lost.  But for the regional rankings, I think Albright has to go ahead of Wesley thanks to the favorable common-opponent result with Salisbury, and that probably means Albright #1, as incredible and strange as that looks.

Like wally said: for poll purposes, we have room for a little discretion to take into account things like "Albright needed a crazy fourth-quarter comeback to beat Salisbury" and "Wesley has been more dominant all season against better competition" and plausibly vote Wesley over Albright.  But in the rankings, which are really supposed to more rigidly adhere to h2h and common-opponent stuff where possible, I think it will be Albright / Wesley / Cortland / Framingham.  And I have no idea how they will order Del Val, St. Lawrence, Stevenson, and the rest.  Alfred could move way up this week depending on how much they slam the teams who just lost.

[bman]

Looking at the regional rankings there is as good a chance as any that Wesley stays at #1.  Is there any chance a 2 loss Cortland or Framingham move up to #1.  The only team that might jump to #1 is Albright and that means they would have to jump both Cortland and Framingham which is not likely.  I have to figure that Salisbury moves into the top 10.  The only 1 loss teams in the rankings are Wesley, Albright, and Framingham.  I am thinking Wesley, Albright, Cortland, and Framingham in some order next and then who knows.  Stevenson probably drops out and Salisbury moved in.  With Del Val losing Wesley is likely the first team on the board for the east and if Salisbury moves into rankings and North Central moves into the North than a 1-1 RRO and decent SOS should get Wesley in.  Then I would look for a potential rematch with Salisbury in round 2 with the winner going to alliance for the region final.  This week was just crazy around the region.  Insanity.

I really don't see a logical reason for Wesley to be ranked ahead of Albright given the common opponent result.  From a poll perspective, sure.  People can and will pretty universally vote Wesley ahead of Albright.  But for the regional rankings, I think you have to pretty blatantly ignore some things to wind up with Wesley in front of Albright.

Agreed.  I was wondering if a team had ever stayed ranked #1 in a week where they lost.  But for the regional rankings, I think Albright has to go ahead of Wesley thanks to the favorable common-opponent result with Salisbury, and that probably means Albright #1, as incredible and strange as that looks.

Like wally said: for poll purposes, we have room for a little discretion to take into account things like "Albright needed a crazy fourth-quarter comeback to beat Salisbury" and "Wesley has been more dominant all season against better competition" and plausibly vote Wesley over Albright.  But in the rankings, which are really supposed to more rigidly adhere to h2h and common-opponent stuff where possible, I think it will be Albright / Wesley / Cortland / Framingham.  And I have no idea how they will order Del Val, St. Lawrence, Stevenson, and the rest.  Alfred could move way up this week depending on how much they slam the teams who just lost.

From a fan poll perspective, I just can't do that...
It doesn't pass the smell test.
Wesley would beat Albright by 4 TDs min right now....

[wally_wabash]

Looking at the regional rankings there is as good a chance as any that Wesley stays at #1.  Is there any chance a 2 loss Cortland or Framingham move up to #1.  The only team that might jump to #1 is Albright and that means they would have to jump both Cortland and Framingham which is not likely.  I have to figure that Salisbury moves into the top 10.  The only 1 loss teams in the rankings are Wesley, Albright, and Framingham.  I am thinking Wesley, Albright, Cortland, and Framingham in some order next and then who knows.  Stevenson probably drops out and Salisbury moved in.  With Del Val losing Wesley is likely the first team on the board for the east and if Salisbury moves into rankings and North Central moves into the North than a 1-1 RRO and decent SOS should get Wesley in.  Then I would look for a potential rematch with Salisbury in round 2 with the winner going to alliance for the region final.  This week was just crazy around the region.  Insanity.

I really don't see a logical reason for Wesley to be ranked ahead of Albright given the common opponent result.  From a poll perspective, sure.  People can and will pretty universally vote Wesley ahead of Albright.  But for the regional rankings, I think you have to pretty blatantly ignore some things to wind up with Wesley in front of Albright.

Agreed.  I was wondering if a team had ever stayed ranked #1 in a week where they lost.  But for the regional rankings, I think Albright has to go ahead of Wesley thanks to the favorable common-opponent result with Salisbury, and that probably means Albright #1, as incredible and strange as that looks.

Like wally said: for poll purposes, we have room for a little discretion to take into account things like "Albright needed a crazy fourth-quarter comeback to beat Salisbury" and "Wesley has been more dominant all season against better competition" and plausibly vote Wesley over Albright.  But in the rankings, which are really supposed to more rigidly adhere to h2h and common-opponent stuff where possible, I think it will be Albright / Wesley / Cortland / Framingham.  And I have no idea how they will order Del Val, St. Lawrence, Stevenson, and the rest.  Alfred could move way up this week depending on how much they slam the teams who just lost.

From a fan poll perspective, I just can't do that...
It doesn't pass the smell test.
Wesley would beat Albright by 4 TDs min right now....

Maybe.  But Albright would score 40 points though.  And isn't that really the issue? 

[@d3jason]

Wesley and Albright scrimmaged in August. I'm not one to place too much in the first scrimmage of the year. For what it's worth, Wesley was up 28-14 in the half that they both played a game situation.

Wesley's a little banged up on D right now, but bottom line has to play better.

[wesleydad]

Looking at the regional rankings there is as good a chance as any that Wesley stays at #1.  Is there any chance a 2 loss Cortland or Framingham move up to #1.  The only team that might jump to #1 is Albright and that means they would have to jump both Cortland and Framingham which is not likely.  I have to figure that Salisbury moves into the top 10.  The only 1 loss teams in the rankings are Wesley, Albright, and Framingham.  I am thinking Wesley, Albright, Cortland, and Framingham in some order next and then who knows.  Stevenson probably drops out and Salisbury moved in.  With Del Val losing Wesley is likely the first team on the board for the east and if Salisbury moves into rankings and North Central moves into the North than a 1-1 RRO and decent SOS should get Wesley in.  Then I would look for a potential rematch with Salisbury in round 2 with the winner going to alliance for the region final.  This week was just crazy around the region.  Insanity.

I really don't see a logical reason for Wesley to be ranked ahead of Albright given the common opponent result.  From a poll perspective, sure.  People can and will pretty universally vote Wesley ahead of Albright.  But for the regional rankings, I think you have to pretty blatantly ignore some things to wind up with Wesley in front of Albright.

I get that but Albright was 6 in the RR last week.  I do not see them jumping up to 1 despite the common opponent result.  They have a loss which has to come under consideration too.  I just dont see a committee jumping a team over other teams that did not lose.  They were behind Cortland who has 2 loses and Framingham who has 1.  What would make them jump those teams this week if they committee did not think they were better than them last week.  Does Cortland go to 1 and Framingham 2 then Albright 3 and Wesley 4?  How would Cortland be a 1 with 2 loses?  But they are ahead of Framingham based on h2h result.  It will be interesting to see what they do.  I still think Wesley could stay the 1 since prior to last week they looked to be well ahead of the rest of the region.

[D3MAFAN]

Looking at the regional rankings there is as good a chance as any that Wesley stays at #1.  Is there any chance a 2 loss Cortland or Framingham move up to #1.  The only team that might jump to #1 is Albright and that means they would have to jump both Cortland and Framingham which is not likely.  I have to figure that Salisbury moves into the top 10.  The only 1 loss teams in the rankings are Wesley, Albright, and Framingham.  I am thinking Wesley, Albright, Cortland, and Framingham in some order next and then who knows.  Stevenson probably drops out and Salisbury moved in.  With Del Val losing Wesley is likely the first team on the board for the east and if Salisbury moves into rankings and North Central moves into the North than a 1-1 RRO and decent SOS should get Wesley in.  Then I would look for a potential rematch with Salisbury in round 2 with the winner going to alliance for the region final.  This week was just crazy around the region.  Insanity.

I really don't see a logical reason for Wesley to be ranked ahead of Albright given the common opponent result.  From a poll perspective, sure.  People can and will pretty universally vote Wesley ahead of Albright.  But for the regional rankings, I think you have to pretty blatantly ignore some things to wind up with Wesley in front of Albright.

I get that but Albright was 6 in the RR last week.  I do not see them jumping up to 1 despite the common opponent result.  They have a loss which has to come under consideration too.  I just dont see a committee jumping a team over other teams that did not lose.  They were behind Cortland who has 2 loses and Framingham who has 1.  What would make them jump those teams this week if they committee did not think they were better than them last week.  Does Cortland go to 1 and Framingham 2 then Albright 3 and Wesley 4?  How would Cortland be a 1 with 2 loses?  But they are ahead of Framingham based on h2h result.  It will be interesting to see what they do.  I still think Wesley could stay the 1 since prior to last week they looked to be well ahead of the rest of the region.

I think the positioning depends where Delaware Valley and Salisbury fall within the rankings. Del Val has win over a common opponent, but its losses and SOS are worst than Salisbury, so I would say Wesley still is atop, but I wouldn't be surprise to see it Albright 1, Wesley 2, Cortland 3, Framingham 4, and WNE 5. However, the committee may move WNE to #3. Who knows?