East Region Fan Poll

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bman

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Quote from: bman on November 09, 2015, 11:35:12 AM
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Quote from: wally_wabash on November 09, 2015, 10:59:35 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 07, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
Looking at the regional rankings there is as good a chance as any that Wesley stays at #1.  Is there any chance a 2 loss Cortland or Framingham move up to #1.  The only team that might jump to #1 is Albright and that means they would have to jump both Cortland and Framingham which is not likely.  I have to figure that Salisbury moves into the top 10.  The only 1 loss teams in the rankings are Wesley, Albright, and Framingham.  I am thinking Wesley, Albright, Cortland, and Framingham in some order next and then who knows.  Stevenson probably drops out and Salisbury moved in.  With Del Val losing Wesley is likely the first team on the board for the east and if Salisbury moves into rankings and North Central moves into the North than a 1-1 RRO and decent SOS should get Wesley in.  Then I would look for a potential rematch with Salisbury in round 2 with the winner going to alliance for the region final.  This week was just crazy around the region.  Insanity.

I really don't see a logical reason for Wesley to be ranked ahead of Albright given the common opponent result.  From a poll perspective, sure.  People can and will pretty universally vote Wesley ahead of Albright.  But for the regional rankings, I think you have to pretty blatantly ignore some things to wind up with Wesley in front of Albright.

Agreed.  I was wondering if a team had ever stayed ranked #1 in a week where they lost.  But for the regional rankings, I think Albright has to go ahead of Wesley thanks to the favorable common-opponent result with Salisbury, and that probably means Albright #1, as incredible and strange as that looks.

Like wally said: for poll purposes, we have room for a little discretion to take into account things like "Albright needed a crazy fourth-quarter comeback to beat Salisbury" and "Wesley has been more dominant all season against better competition" and plausibly vote Wesley over Albright.  But in the rankings, which are really supposed to more rigidly adhere to h2h and common-opponent stuff where possible, I think it will be Albright / Wesley / Cortland / Framingham.  And I have no idea how they will order Del Val, St. Lawrence, Stevenson, and the rest.  Alfred could move way up this week depending on how much they slam the teams who just lost.

From a fan poll perspective, I just can't do that...
It doesn't pass the smell test.
Wesley would beat Albright by 4 TDs min right now....
Maybe.  But Albright would score 40 points though.  And isn't that really the issue?

I'm not sure they would...which is why I'm not voting for them in the 1 spot... ;)
As for the Regional ranking, I am sure they are calculating away on SOS, SOOS, common opponents, number of pros drafted, and any number of other variables, which all will result in the same conclusion...
The East is a mess and they will import a #1 into the region, regardless of who falls out as 1 in the East...

PA_wesleyfan

Johns Hopkins fits into the southern half of the east. So maybe they bring them east. Doesn't make much logistical sense to move Wesley  or Salisbury south though they
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Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2015, 02:48:49 PM
Johns Hopkins fits into the southern half of the east. So maybe they bring them east. Doesn't make much logistical sense to move Wesley  or Salisbury south though they

Wishful thinking. Regardless, maybe this mess of the East allows a team to stay on their heels and play much better come playoff and maybe knock off a top team from another region. Highly unlikely from someone who follows D3Football often, but we can hope and wish the best to each team.

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Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 09, 2015, 02:48:49 PM
Johns Hopkins fits into the southern half of the east. So maybe they bring them east. Doesn't make much logistical sense to move Wesley  or Salisbury south though they

That's what happened last year. Could see a scenario like SLU vs. Cort in Rd 1, winner goes to MD to play JHU who'll host MAC champ or something like that.
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@d3jason

How po'ed are you if you are Hopkins and you have to see Wesley in the first round again like 2013?

jknezek

Quote from: @d3jason on November 10, 2015, 02:15:04 PM
How po'ed are you if you are Hopkins and you have to see Wesley in the first round again like 2013?

More likely fall to someone like W&L this time around.

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Quote from: jknezek on November 10, 2015, 02:16:21 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on November 10, 2015, 02:15:04 PM
How po'ed are you if you are Hopkins and you have to see Wesley in the first round again like 2013?

More likely fall to someone like W&L this time around.

I would think Salisbury would go to Hopkins since both are in Maryland and Wesley to Albright, with the winner facing each other the following round.

jknezek

Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on November 10, 2015, 02:47:44 PM
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Quote from: @d3jason on November 10, 2015, 02:15:04 PM
How po'ed are you if you are Hopkins and you have to see Wesley in the first round again like 2013?

More likely fall to someone like W&L this time around.

I would think Salisbury would go to Hopkins since both are in Maryland and Wesley to Albright, with the winner facing each other the following round.

That won't matter much as long as it is inside 500 miles. W&L traveled 460+ miles to Hobart in 2012 when there were plenty of closer options. They will set up the brackets in the first round best versus worst, as much as possible, holding to the 500 miles constraint.

Saxon73

 Not to pick on Norwich, but it would be 493 miles to Hopkins  ??? ???
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jknezek

Quote from: Saxon73 on November 10, 2015, 02:58:20 PM
Not to pick on Norwich, but it would be 493 miles to Hopkins  ??? ???

498 according to TES. That would be a long bus trip. Especially covering a ton of congested I95 miles between New Haven CT to the outskirts of Baltimore. Google says 8 hours. I'm guessing a bus you are talking at least 11 hours each way. No way you average much over 50 mph between constructions, wrecks, and where ever you time it to hit rush hour.

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Week 10 Fan Poll

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1   Wesley ( 4 )8-1561at William Paterson
2   Albright ( 1 )8-1533vs. Lebanon Valley
3   Salisbury6-2509vs. Frostburg State
4   Stevenson7-2276at FDU-Florham
5   Alfred7-2268at St. John Fisher
6   Western New England ( 1 )9-0247vs. Salve Regina
7t  Delaware Valley7-2222vs. Widener
7t  St. Lawrence7-2224vs. Merchant Marine
9   Framingham State8-118NRat Worcester State
10  Cortland State7-21610at Ithaca


Dropping Out:
Rowan


Also Receiving votes:               
Rowan 6
Salve Regina 4
Widener 3
RPI 2
Hobart 1
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Wesley (1,1,1,2,4,1)
Albright (3,2,2,1,2,3)
Salisbury (2,3,3,3,3,2)
Stevenson (5,6,5,5,10,8)
Alfred (6,5,9,8,8,4)
Western New England (10,9,10,7,1,5)
Delaware Valley (8,8,4,4,9,NR)
St. Lawrence (7,7,7,6,NR,6)
Framingham State (4,NR,NR,9,6,7)
Cortland State (9,4,NR,10,5,NR)
Rowan (NR,10,6,NR,NR,NR)
Salve Regina (NR,NR,NR,NR,7,NR)
Widener (NR,NR,8,NR,NR,NR)
RPI (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,9)
Hobart (NR,NR,NR,NR,NR,10)


Key Matchups:
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jknezek

I love the "1" vote for WNEC...

pg04

At this point I think WNEC is probably underrated by at least 4 of the voters based just on the ineptness of the region. There is something to be said of winning them all.

jknezek

Quote from: pg04 on November 10, 2015, 04:14:58 PM
At this point I think WNEC is probably underrated by at least 4 of the voters based just on the ineptness of the region. There is something to be said of winning them all.

I tend to agree. Winning counts. But I still like that they run from 1 to 10. Also like Del Val and Stephenson with the big range. Nothing like a seasons worth of games to come up with the end game of, "who the frick knows?"  And yes, I think the SRFP could look somewhat similar for some teams this week.

bman

Admittedly befuddled by the 2 "4" votes received by Del Val...