East Region Fan Poll

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AUKaz00

I'd categorize my rankings as a mix of art and science.  I try to balance my expectations for each team going forward - kind of a "who would win" subjective test - with what has actually occurred so far in the season.  Starting the year, I like to look at the point differential from the previous year to try and identify an initial core of teams to consider, then make adjustments due to graduation and on field results.  I also like to consider close games in light of which team was at home, so losing by 2 points on the road will cause me to consider both teams roughly equal, though a skim of the game log (or view of the stream if I was able to catch it) can highlight oddities to the final score which I'll also consider. 

So, all of that to say, I like to look at the standings, scores, rankings in multiple ways and likely gain a slightly different result than other pollsters.  What I love about the ERFP is that the aggregate, and its nuance of ranks, is fairly agreeable to all.  Even if a computer provided 20% of the rankings this week!
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Looking at this next weekend's games for the Fan Poll teams, does anyone see any losers except for either Hobart or SJF  ?
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Kind of surprised there were zero votes for Springfield in Wk 1. I suppose that'll change if they can beat a tough Kean team. App is one of the better D3QB's I saw last season. Should be one of the better Wk 2 games in the nation, not just the east.
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wesleydad

Quote from: ITH radio on September 06, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Kind of surprised there were zero votes for Springfield in Wk 1. I suppose that'll change if they can beat a tough Kean team. App is one of the better D3QB's I saw last season. Should be one of the better Wk 2 games in the nation, not just the east.

will keep that in mind if I have to keep looking for teams to add to the list because other teams keep losing.

Bartman

Quote from: ITH radio on September 06, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Kind of surprised there were zero votes for Springfield in Wk 1. I suppose that'll change if they can beat a tough Kean team. App is one of the better D3QB's I saw last season. Should be one of the better Wk 2 games in the nation, not just the east.
Agree they are deserving, certainly if they beat Kean
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D3MAFAN

Quote from: Bartman on September 07, 2017, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on September 06, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Kind of surprised there were zero votes for Springfield in Wk 1. I suppose that'll change if they can beat a tough Kean team. App is one of the better D3QB's I saw last season. Should be one of the better Wk 2 games in the nation, not just the east.
Agree they are deserving, certainly if they beat Kean

I was looking at that too. I was a bit late on my votes after a long labor day, but will definitely consider them after beating a sound WNE team.

Boxer7806

Can't wait to see what this poll looks like after this week.

dlippiel

Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 07, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: Bartman on September 07, 2017, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on September 06, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Kind of surprised there were zero votes for Springfield in Wk 1. I suppose that'll change if they can beat a tough Kean team. App is one of the better D3QB's I saw last season. Should be one of the better Wk 2 games in the nation, not just the east.
Agree they are deserving, certainly if they beat Kean

I was looking at that too. I was a bit late on my votes after a long labor day, but will definitely consider them after beating a sound WNE team.

After the strong start the Pride should at the very least begin to receive votes this week. It will be interesting how it shakes out.

wesleydad

Quote from: dlip on September 10, 2017, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 07, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: Bartman on September 07, 2017, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on September 06, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Kind of surprised there were zero votes for Springfield in Wk 1. I suppose that'll change if they can beat a tough Kean team. App is one of the better D3QB's I saw last season. Should be one of the better Wk 2 games in the nation, not just the east.
Agree they are deserving, certainly if they beat Kean

I was looking at that too. I was a bit late on my votes after a long labor day, but will definitely consider them after beating a sound WNE team.

After the strong start the Pride should at the very least begin to receive votes this week. It will be interesting how it shakes out.

watched them yesterday, moved onto my list.

Bartman

Brockport was picked by 50% of D3 staff pickers to be upset of the week(however,beat IC 31-0), I still see them as #1 in East after 2 impressive wins.Arguments for Del Val and Frosty as #1 are also valid until we see more from these teams. 
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wesleydad

Quote from: Bartman on September 10, 2017, 10:11:11 AM
Brockport was picked by 50% of D3 staff pickers to be upset of the week(however,beat IC 31-0), I still see them as #1 in East after 2 impressive wins.Arguments for Del Val and Frosty as #1 are also valid until we see more from these teams.

Have frosty 1 since they were ranked higher to start the year.  jumped them over del val based on what i saw live vs what i saw on computer.  believe those 3 are ahead of alfred and albright from original 10 i had.

AUPepBand

Quote from: Bartman on September 10, 2017, 10:11:11 AM
Brockport was picked by 50% of D3 staff pickers to be upset of the week(however,beat IC 31-0), I still see them as #1 in East after 2 impressive wins.Arguments for Del Val and Frosty as #1 are also valid until we see more from these teams.

Pep must agree here that Brockport's 31-0 win certainly established the Golden Eagles as the team to beat in the Empire 8. Pep doesn't recall seeing an Empire 8 coaches' pre-season poll. Did Pep miss something or didn't they do it this year?
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Got B-Port #2, Frostburg #1 and Springfield #8.
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AUKaz00

Week 2 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1t  Frostburg State ( 3 )2-0442at Christopher Newport
1t  Brockport State ( 1 )2-0443at St. John Fisher
1t  Delaware Valley ( 1 )2-0441at Wilkes
4   Albright2-0325tat Lycoming
5   Wesley0-1294at TCNJ
6   Alfred1-0275tvs. Utica
7   Hobart1-1179tvs. Shenandoah
8   Salisbury1-1107at Kean
9   Springfield2-09NRat Mount Ida
10  Framingham State2-08NRat Bridgewater State


Also Receiving votes:               
Buffalo State 3
RPI 3
Stevenson 3
Christopher Newport 2
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Frostburg State (1,5,1,3,1)
Brockport State (2,2,2,1,4)
Delaware Valley (3,1,3,2,2)
Albright (4,4,5,4,6)
Wesley (7,3,6,7,3)
Alfred (5,9,4,5,5)
Hobart (6,7,NR,6,8)
Salisbury (9,6,NR,9,10)
Springfield (8,NR,10,8,9)
Framingham State (NR,NR,7,NR,7)
Buffalo State (NR,NR,8,NR,NR)
RPI (NR,NR,9,10,NR)
Stevenson (NR,8,NR,NR,NR)
Christopher Newport (10,10,NR,NR,NR)
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wesleydad

Quote from: AUKaz00 on September 11, 2017, 09:56:15 AM
Week 2 Fan Poll 

       Team                RecordPointsLast RatingNext Week
1t  Frostburg State ( 3 )2-0442at Christopher Newport
1t  Brockport State ( 1 )2-0443at St. John Fisher
1t  Delaware Valley ( 1 )2-0441at Wilkes
4   Albright2-0325tat Lycoming
5   Wesley0-1294at TCNJ
6   Alfred1-0275tvs. Utica
7   Hobart1-1179tvs. Shenandoah
8   Salisbury1-1107at Kean
9   Springfield2-09NRat Mount Ida
10  Framingham State2-08NRat Bridgewater State


Also Receiving votes:               
Buffalo State 3
RPI 3
Stevenson 3
Christopher Newport 2
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Frostburg State (1,5,1,3,1)
Brockport State (2,2,2,1,4)
Delaware Valley (3,1,3,2,2)
Albright (4,4,5,4,6)
Wesley (7,3,6,7,3)
Alfred (5,9,4,5,5)
Hobart (6,7,NR,6,8)
Salisbury (9,6,NR,9,10)
Springfield (8,NR,10,8,9)
Framingham State (NR,NR,7,NR,7)
Buffalo State (NR,NR,8,NR,NR)
RPI (NR,NR,9,10,NR)
Stevenson (NR,8,NR,NR,NR)
Christopher Newport (10,10,NR,NR,NR)

I will start the conversation.  What has Wesley done to remain #3?  They lost the only game they played and their starting QB is out for the rest of the season.  The backup has no track record of anything and just because Wesley has been able to replace QB's before does not mean this will work out as usual.  Trust me, I think I know how good they are going to end up being, but at this point in the season I almost removed them from the top 10 and may have if a few teams had not lost this weekend.  Not a big fan of using reputation as a barometer, rather like using the what have you actually done so far method.  Also not sure about Hobart and Salisbury, but at least they did win this week.  There are some pretty good 2-0 teams out there right now, but they lack the reputation.