East Region Fan Poll

[UfanBill]

Thanks for identifying yourself as voter#2 rams1102. Wesleydad has also graciously admitted that he is #4. #5 seems to support the NYS leagues so I think I know who that is. Don't misinterpret me. It is not required that anyone divulge their identity or rankings. I just want the poll to be more objective. In doing some research on the history of the ERFP board by going back to it's beginning in 2007, I see that it was started by pg04, an admitted Brockport supporter. I don't know if he's still involved. The present compiler is UKaz00, an Alfred guy. I assume he's a voter. Originally there were 10 pollsters and the rule was only one per team so it was required for all to state their allegiance. All 10 pollsters were identified but their rankings have always been secret unless divulged by themselves. This is done by showing only the voting distribution. Over the years pollsters/voters have come and gone and now there are only five. I'm not sure if more are desired or solicited. It would undoubtedly make for a better poll if there were ten or more. I have some interest as may others.

[AUPepBand]

The science of the bottom 5 of top 10 rankings in the ERFP this year is difficult .... I may be looking at which uniforms or mascot I like the best

Pep is quite partial to purple with a stripe or two of gold. Quite frankly, Pep likes the AU unis best of all....and the Saxon mascot was runner-up in a recent nationwide competition. Actually, the results were definitely skewed by bots as the Saxons, leading by 60% to 40% in the last day of balloting, were overtaken overnight by those foxy Vixens of Sweet Briar College. Just sayin'!!

On Saxon Warriors!

[wesleydad]

Thanks for identifying yourself as voter#2 rams1102. Wesleydad has also graciously admitted that he is #4. #5 seems to support the NYS leagues so I think I know who that is. Don't misinterpret me. It is not required that anyone divulge their identity or rankings. I just want the poll to be more objective. In doing some research on the history of the ERFP board by going back to it's beginning in 2007, I see that it was started by pg04, an admitted Brockport supporter. I don't know if he's still involved. The present compiler is UKaz00, an Alfred guy. I assume he's a voter. Originally there were 10 pollsters and the rule was only one per team so it was required for all to state their allegiance. All 10 pollsters were identified but their rankings have always been secret unless divulged by themselves. This is done by showing only the voting distribution. Over the years pollsters/voters have come and gone and now there are only five. I'm not sure if more are desired or solicited. It would undoubtedly make for a better poll if there were ten or more. I have some interest as may others.

UfanBill, I have no problem stating who I put down and will gladly explain why I put them there.  No reason doing it if you are not going to justify your opinion.  I know I go out of my way to be impartial and am probably harder on Wesley than most because I have a good idea of how good they are and where they will end up in the east most years.  Currently I think they would beat Del Val if they played them again and would probably beat Brockport, but I can not make them #1 in the east because they lost to Del Val, how poorly they played in the game does not matter, H2H wins unless there is some really weird issue.  In the end if polls do not lead to discussion why are we doing one?  I like them.

[rams1102]

Thanks for identifying yourself as voter#2 rams1102. Wesleydad has also graciously admitted that he is #4. #5 seems to support the NYS leagues so I think I know who that is. Don't misinterpret me. It is not required that anyone divulge their identity or rankings. I just want the poll to be more objective. In doing some research on the history of the ERFP board by going back to it's beginning in 2007, I see that it was started by pg04, an admitted Brockport supporter. I don't know if he's still involved. The present compiler is UKaz00, an Alfred guy. I assume he's a voter. Originally there were 10 pollsters and the rule was only one per team so it was required for all to state their allegiance. All 10 pollsters were identified but their rankings have always been secret unless divulged by themselves. This is done by showing only the voting distribution. Over the years pollsters/voters have come and gone and now there are only five. I'm not sure if more are desired or solicited. It would undoubtedly make for a better poll if there were ten or more. I have some interest as may others.

I try to be as impartial as I can. I have a little problem with the New England Teams but do my best. Framingham has lurked for a few years but the other powers seem to change. As a Montclair Homer it has been a tough stretch. . As I said before Del Val, B-Port and Wesley can go 2 deep in the playoffs(depending on the match-up's) but not 3 deep. I wish they could.

[MRMIKESMITH]

Wow...quite a bit of chatter going on. I do like it. I think there are 3 to 4 clear cut teams that we are all confident can win two rounds or beyond. This goes hand in hand based off of the regional bracket. I think most teams worthy of reaching the 3 round will reach it regardless of the first two rounds? Upsets will happen in both 1st and 2nd rounds, but after that, typically the better teams (Usually Top 8 to 16) per D 3 will usually be there except for teams that matchup the second round due to region. Again, due to budget constraint, we will have teams not make it past both the 1st and 2nd rounds due to budget constraints, however if you are as good as you are, you will be there. I think everyone on the list can be beaten and aren't good enough to make numerous mistakes and win against the teams on the current list. As wesleydad mentioned some teams ceilings are higher than others and those teams are currently in the Top 4 and have the record to be there NOW. We still have three more weeks, RR come out next week, then things gets really interesting. Also, just a FYI, I am not a voter, but have no problems with the teams where they are currently.

[wesleydad]

nothing to change this week.  all of my teams won or were off.  Next week has some good ones.

[Bartman]

OK,  I have not changed my top 5, but I have to admit I decided to change my voting philosophy from last week(last week I rated based on gut,recent wins against teams with higher SOS and discounting early season h2h )...this time I went with a more traditional best record sort(only 9-1 or better), took H2H wins into account regardless of when it happened in the season(so I put Husson ahead of Union, although , I think Union would win today), Salisbury has a lower SOS than either Husson or Union or the one loss MASCAC teams, but I still rated Salisbury higher than the MASCAC teams based on recent point differentials , and I voted the MASCAC's in order of SOS , which left Fram St out(although my gut tells me Fram St. will beat WesConn).  This eliminated most of the "gut feel" input I gave to last week. It is  difficult to compare between conferences  because there is very little to evaluate other than a handful of games ,SOS and historical records between conferences....so I used a more "clinical" approach this week based on the thin data available, and sucked in my gut.

[D3MAFAN]

My top 5 teams didn't change much. I still using somewhat an eye-test while ranking the bottom and using H2H as my deciding factor. I am curious what the RR will show. I think my RAMS chances slid as Cortland loss to St. John Fisher.

[rams1102]

My top 3 remained (B-Port, Del Val & Wesley) then I slid Salisbury into #4 and Frostburg from #4 to #5 then (Spring, Husson, Union, Fram & Plymouth). A lot of good games this week and a lot of movement to probably come in the Poll.

[Bartman]

My top 3 remained (B-Port, Del Val & Wesley) then I slid Salisbury into #4 and Frostburg from #4 to #5 then (Spring, Husson, Union, Fram & Plymouth). A lot of good games this week and a lot of movement to probably come in the Poll.

Rams,
     Curious on your moving Salisbury to #4 (which is your opinion , and may end up being right when they play Frosty) , but I watched the Wesley / Frosty game and if I did not know the score, I would have given the edge to Frostburg. They had over 500 yards against a traditionally tough D3 defense and controlled the ball for 37 minutes of the game. Now, Wesley won this tight contest , so no argument, but this was Frosty's only lost. Salisbury lost a close game to Albright, which is no Wesley...just my opinion.....the next 2 weeks will be very interesting

[AUKaz00]

Week 9 Fan Poll 

Team	Record	Points	Last Rating	Next Week
1   Brockport State ( 3 )	8-0	48	1t	vs. Alfred
2   Delaware Valley ( 2 )	8-0	47	1t	at Misericordia
3   Wesley	7-1	40	3	vs. #5t Salisbury
4   Frostburg State	7-1	34	4	vs. Kean
5t  Salisbury	7-1	27	6	at #3 Wesley
5t  Springfield	8-0	27	5	at Maine Maritime
7   Husson	7-1	17	8	vs. Alfred State
8   Union	7-1	12	7	at Ithaca
9t  Framingham State	7-1	6	9t	vs. Western Connecticut
9t  Plymouth State	8-1	6	9t	at Fitchburg State

Also Receiving votes:               
Trinity 4
Widener 4
Western Connecticut 3
                     
            
Voting Distribution:            

Brockport State (1,2,1,2,1)
Delaware Valley (2,1,2,1,2)
Wesley (3,3,3,3,3)
Frostburg State (4,4,5,4,4)
Salisbury (8,6,4,5,5)
Springfield (5,5,6,6,6)
Husson (6,7,7,10,8)
Union (7,8,8,NR,9)
Framingham State (NR,10,9,8,NR)
Plymouth State (10,9,10,9,NR)
Trinity (NR,NR,NR,NR,7)
Widener (NR,NR,NR,7,NR)
Western Connecticut (9,NR,NR,NR,10)


Key Matchups:
#5t Salisbury at #3 Wesley

[rams1102]

My top 3 remained (B-Port, Del Val & Wesley) then I slid Salisbury into #4 and Frostburg from #4 to #5 then (Spring, Husson, Union, Fram & Plymouth). A lot of good games this week and a lot of movement to probably come in the Poll.

Rams,
     Curious on your moving Salisbury to #4 (which is your opinion , and may end up being right when they play Frosty) , but I watched the Wesley / Frosty game and if I did not know the score, I would have given the edge to Frostburg. They had over 500 yards against a traditionally tough D3 defense and controlled the ball for 37 minutes of the game. Now, Wesley won this tight contest , so no argument, but this was Frosty's only lost. Salisbury lost a close game to Albright, which is no Wesley...just my opinion.....the next 2 weeks will be very interesting

My thought was that Salisbury is improving. Montclair beats SoVA by 20+ and expected to see Frostburg really roll them. They did not. I think the loser of the Wesley / Salisbury game could very well be out of the playoffs. I'm sure things will be corrected after Saturday's games. Those were my thoughts as I was voting.

[MRMIKESMITH]

My top 3 remained (B-Port, Del Val & Wesley) then I slid Salisbury into #4 and Frostburg from #4 to #5 then (Spring, Husson, Union, Fram & Plymouth). A lot of good games this week and a lot of movement to probably come in the Poll.

Rams,
     Curious on your moving Salisbury to #4 (which is your opinion , and may end up being right when they play Frosty) , but I watched the Wesley / Frosty game and if I did not know the score, I would have given the edge to Frostburg. They had over 500 yards against a traditionally tough D3 defense and controlled the ball for 37 minutes of the game. Now, Wesley won this tight contest , so no argument, but this was Frosty's only lost. Salisbury lost a close game to Albright, which is no Wesley...just my opinion.....the next 2 weeks will be very interesting

My thought was that Salisbury is improving. Montclair beats SoVA by 20+ and expected to see Frostburg really roll them. They did not. I think the loser of the Wesley / Salisbury game could very well be out of the playoffs. I'm sure things will be corrected after Saturday's games. Those were my thoughts as I was voting.

I agree that Salisbury is improving. However, Frostburg playing a Friday night game against SoVA on their senior day after a short week to prepare for the option (albeit not as talented as Salisbury) is very difficult for any team. I watch the game and Frostburg could have scored a couple more times and they even knelt with under a minute well within 10 yards of the goal line. Nevertheless, you have seen both teams in person and would have a better radar than most.

[Bartman]

My top 3 remained (B-Port, Del Val & Wesley) then I slid Salisbury into #4 and Frostburg from #4 to #5 then (Spring, Husson, Union, Fram & Plymouth). A lot of good games this week and a lot of movement to probably come in the Poll.

Rams,
     Curious on your moving Salisbury to #4 (which is your opinion , and may end up being right when they play Frosty) , but I watched the Wesley / Frosty game and if I did not know the score, I would have given the edge to Frostburg. They had over 500 yards against a traditionally tough D3 defense and controlled the ball for 37 minutes of the game. Now, Wesley won this tight contest , so no argument, but this was Frosty's only lost. Salisbury lost a close game to Albright, which is no Wesley...just my opinion.....the next 2 weeks will be very interesting

My thought was that Salisbury is improving. Montclair beats SoVA by 20+ and expected to see Frostburg really roll them. They did not. I think the loser of the Wesley / Salisbury game could very well be out of the playoffs. I'm sure things will be corrected after Saturday's games. Those were my thoughts as I was voting.

Thanks for your perspective...the next couple of weeks will be interesting

[Upstate]

What???

No votes for Fisher!??!!?

JK, rankings look pretty good!

Love what DVC and Port are doing this year to set up a solid regional bracket!