East Region Fan Poll

[RowanPhan]

Rank      Team             Previous    Points   
1)     Ithaca  (6)            1         60   
2)     Salisbury              2         54
3)     Union                  3t        45
4)     Cortland               3t        42
5)     Delaware Valley        5         32
6)     Brockport              7         31
7)     Wesley                 6         29
8t)     Hobart                 8         11
8t)     WPI                    8t        11 
10)     Endicott               9t        9


Dropped Out: Alfred

RV) Alfred (2), Stevenson (2), WNE (2)

Key Game(s):
Ithaca (#1) v. Union (#3) , Endicott (#10) vs. WNE (RV), Cortland (#4) v. Brockport (#6), SUNY-Maritime (NR) v. Gallaudet (NR)

Voters: MANDGSU, RAMS1102, DUTCH BOY, Ufanbill, Oline89, Bartman

This group does a great job compiling the weekly fan poll, I appreciate all the effort that goes into it!

[gordonmann]

I agree that Union is probably at #4, but I'm confused as to why people have DelVal so high, when Wesley beat them @ DelVal...

I'm not saying this is the case, but it's possible that Del Val has improved and Wesley has regressed since the two played a quadruple overtime in the second game of the season. E.J. Lee who ran for +100 yards against Del Val has also been hurt since the game after they played the Aggies.

Personally I think you guys have Del Val slotted just about right. I'd consider them 5 or 6 in the region, depending on what you want to do with Wesley.

[Doid23]

I should have been more specific, confused about why DelVal is above Wesley. I don't have an issue with DelVal being 5th.

[wesleydad]

Rank      Team             Previous    Points   
1)     Ithaca  (6)            1         60   
2)     Salisbury              2         54
3)     Union                  3t        45
4)     Cortland               3t        42
5)     Delaware Valley        5         32
6)     Brockport              7         31
7)     Wesley                 6         29
8t)     Hobart                 8         11
8t)     WPI                    8t        11 
10)     Endicott               9t        9


Dropped Out: Alfred

RV) Alfred (2), Stevenson (2), WNE (2)

Key Game(s):
Ithaca (#1) v. Union (#3) , Endicott (#10) vs. WNE (RV), Cortland (#4) v. Brockport (#6), SUNY-Maritime (NR) v. Gallaudet (NR)

Voters: MANDGSU, RAMS1102, DUTCH BOY, Ufanbill, Oline89, Bartman

Looks to me like this is a what do you think would happen based on results poll rather than a vote for a team just because they are winning or beat someone else poll.  The what if vs. actual results issue that always comes up.  Wesley is the perfect example, they are winning games but not impressively, so what do you do with them.  The win against Del Val and close loss on the scoreboard to Salisbury, the game wasn't really that close from what I saw, says they are a top team in the east.  I have no problem with anyone who thinks that Union, Cortland, Brockport, or Del Val, if they played them again, would beat them.  How good are they?  no idea.  If they are a top team in the East are they losing to Endicott by 17 at the half?  Do they have to score on a last ditch drive and then win in overtime against a good but not top east team in Montclair?  On the other hand, they have beaten those teams and if they play to the ability could likely beat everyone ahead of them including Ithaca.  Anywhere from 3 to 7 fits, just depends on how you vote.  I actually like how the voting is going, since it is opinion you might as well vote on your opinion.

[rams1102]

I agree with wesleydad that opinion plays a large part. As of today 1&2 are a lock. The Pollsters who played the game or had a son who played can be more objective. I kicked the round ball in College so I am more opionated. The LL and the E8 will play out by the next 3 games. Now here is question. How many Teams in the Top 10 Today have the ability to go 3 deep in the NCAA's and list them. Here I go : Ithaca, Salisbury, B-Port, Del Val and Wesley as of Today.

[UfanBill]

I agree with wesleydad that opinion plays a large part. As of today 1&2 are a lock. The Pollsters who played the game or had a son who played can be more objective. I kicked the round ball in College so I am more opionated. The LL and the E8 will play out by the next 3 games. Now here is question. How many Teams in the Top 10 Today have the ability to go 3 deep in the NCAA's and list them. Here I go : Ithaca, Salisbury, B-Port, Del Val and Wesley as of Today.

So you're discounting the #2 and #3 teams in our poll? As of today that simply cannot be done. Ithaca, Salisbury, Del Val and Wesley surely have a clear path to the tourney but so do Cortland and Union and I would argue if either one does get in, they would be a force to be reckoned with. The Bombers and the Gulls have been dominate but Brockport, Del Val and Wesley, not so much. Look barring the committee sending Mt. Union east again ANY of these teams can win 3...first they have to get there.

Speaking of the tourney...There are 4 New England conferences that will all get an AQ. Let's review what's going on there.

NEWMAC...We've been looking at WPI all year but Springfield and especially MIT are not out of it. Springfield would need help but MIT still has WPI and Springfield to play. If they sweep those games they're in.

CCC...All eyes have been on Endicott but Western New England is still undefeated. They play this week.

MASCAC...Framingham St. has quietly taken over but still has a game against 2nd place Bridgewater. A Bridgewater win there could create a 3-way tie with W. Conn.

ECFC...This is where things get really messy. Dean is going to be the champ but they're ineligible to go to the tourney this year. SUNY-Maritime and Gallaudet play this week to determine who gets the bid, maybe. With dominate Husson leaving this is a bad league but very competitive, where it seems everyone except Dean can beat anyone else, strange things could still happen. We'll probably see a .500 team get in.      

[Ice Bear]

I agree with wesleydad that opinion plays a large part. As of today 1&2 are a lock. The Pollsters who played the game or had a son who played can be more objective. I kicked the round ball in College so I am more opionated. The LL and the E8 will play out by the next 3 games. Now here is question. How many Teams in the Top 10 Today have the ability to go 3 deep in the NCAA's and list them. Here I go : Ithaca, Salisbury, B-Port, Del Val and Wesley as of Today.

Ice is not overly high on his Dutchmen in relation to the top 2/3 in the region and/or the top 25 on a national level (he thinks everyone knows that from his posts throughout the season thus far). With that said he really disagrees with the two bolded teams on the list. IIBHO Union and Cortland would defeat the likes of Del Val, Wesley, and maybe B-Port (although Ice believes there has been a resurgence there since getting pasted by Hobart, whom Union defeated mind you). Del Val and Wesley have no shot at winning three games in the tourney...B-Port couldn't do it last year with Joe G. Ice would rank these three in the the following order: B-Port, Wesley, and then Del Val (the MAC is really down this year IIBHO). Union and Cortland would be ahead of all three.

[Ithaca798891]

Salisbury is a tough team to figure. It's all matchups. They could go up against an otherwise meh team that is disciplined enough with the right personnel upfront, and have a hard go of things.

[jmcozenlaw]

Salisbury is a tough team to figure. It's all matchups. They could go up against an otherwise meh team that is disciplined enough with the right personnel upfront, and have a hard go of things.

I would love to see DelVal's defense, finally healthy all year, play Salisbury. THAT would be an intriguing matchup. The Nobile brothers are pretty decent.

[D O.C.]

Love the optimism here

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[wesleydad]

I agree with wesleydad that opinion plays a large part. As of today 1&2 are a lock. The Pollsters who played the game or had a son who played can be more objective. I kicked the round ball in College so I am more opionated. The LL and the E8 will play out by the next 3 games. Now here is question. How many Teams in the Top 10 Today have the ability to go 3 deep in the NCAA's and list them. Here I go : Ithaca, Salisbury, B-Port, Del Val and Wesley as of Today.

Ice is not overly high on his Dutchmen in relation to the top 2/3 in the region and/or the top 25 on a national level (he thinks everyone knows that from his posts throughout the season thus far). With that said he really disagrees with the two bolded teams on the list. IIBHO Union and Cortland would defeat the likes of Del Val, Wesley, and maybe B-Port (although Ice believes there has been a resurgence there since getting pasted by Hobart, whom Union defeated mind you). Del Val and Wesley have no shot at winning three games in the tourney...B-Port couldn't do it last year with Joe G. Ice would rank these three in the the following order: B-Port, Wesley, and then Del Val (the MAC is really down this year IIBHO). Union and Cortland would be ahead of all three.

Based on what I have seen this year, Wesley is more likely to go in round 1 then in round 3.  I am just hoping that the majority of these teams end up in the same bracket and it gets to play out on the field.  I am thinking that if Wesley and Salisbury both get in one of them ends up in the "south bracket".

[MRMIKESMITH]

Salisbury is a tough team to figure. It's all matchups. They could go up against an otherwise meh team that is disciplined enough with the right personnel upfront, and have a hard go of things.

I would love to see DelVal's defense, finally healthy all year, play Salisbury. THAT would be an intriguing matchup. The Nobile brothers are pretty decent.

I agree with these comments. Since Salisbury runs a "unique" system that heavily relies on the run, teams with a stout front seven will always cause trouble for the scheme, since passing the ball naturally is not as strong and certain years is non existent. However,  if you have any weak link in the front seven or lack discipline,  it will demoralize you. 

[RowanPhan]

Salisbury is a tough team to figure. It's all matchups. They could go up against an otherwise meh team that is disciplined enough with the right personnel upfront, and have a hard go of things.

I would love to see DelVal's defense, finally healthy all year, play Salisbury. THAT would be an intriguing matchup. The Nobile brothers are pretty decent.

I agree with these comments. Since Salisbury runs a "unique" system that heavily relies on the run, teams with a stout front seven will always cause trouble for the scheme, since passing the ball naturally is not as strong and certain years is non existent. However,  if you have any weak link in the front seven or lack discipline,  it will demoralize you.

I agree. I have followed another option team for over 15 years (Navy) and they'll beat more talented teams all the time, but they'll struggle against teams who are simply bigger especially on the DL (big guys beat up little guys).

[MRMIKESMITH]

Big changes this week...looks like we will have an elimination game for the Cortaca Jug game...