East Region Fan Poll

[Ice Bear]

Didn't mean any disrespect to IWU or North Central or the CCIW in general.  Let's distill what I meant into simple, easy to digest fragments:

- North Central is the best non-champion in the North region
- North Central is demonstrably better than Illinois Wesleyan and should beat them, probably comfortably, on Saturday
- If North Central is looking ahead to the tournament or otherwise not focused singularly on this game, Illinois Wesleyan- while not as good as North Central- is good enough to beat the Cardinals if the Cardinals don't have their act together.  For precedent, please refer to Concordia-Moorhead v. St. John's (2019). 

I apologize to any other Trap Game Strict Constructionists out there that I may have offended with my careless and irresponsible use of that particular colloquialism.

Ice Bear says this impressive word play is only expected from the NESCAC board. Wally, Ice says you should repost this over there to remind "those people" that there are some bright spots outside of the NESCAC world. That was some Wu-tang swordsmen type **** right there.

Ice gives a +K to WW!

[Saxon73]

Didn't mean any disrespect to IWU or North Central or the CCIW in general.  Let's distill what I meant into simple, easy to digest fragments:

- North Central is the best non-champion in the North region
- North Central is demonstrably better than Illinois Wesleyan and should beat them, probably comfortably, on Saturday
- If North Central is looking ahead to the tournament or otherwise not focused singularly on this game, Illinois Wesleyan- while not as good as North Central- is good enough to beat the Cardinals if the Cardinals don't have their act together.  For precedent, please refer to Concordia-Moorhead v. St. John's (2019). 

I apologize to any other Trap Game Strict Constructionists out there that I may have offended with my careless and irresponsible use of that particular colloquialism.

Ice Bear says this impressive word play is only expected from the NESCAC board. Wally, Ice says you should repost this over there to remind "those people" that there are some bright spots outside of the NESCAC world. That was some Wu-tang swordsmen type **** right there.

Ice gives a +K to WW!

Saxon73 ((and this is my first and probably last ever third person post)) appreciates this verbal exchange.  There have been comments in the past that the Alfred posters were prone to unusually precise and accurate grammar and spelling.  This may be attributed to the general aged wisdom of the three usual suspects or their background.  Pep of course has confessed many times to his journalism background; SaxonTad's profession involves word smithing, ((he can divulge if he so desires)) and Saxon73 has the coveted Glass Science degree in which most posters would likely recognize the inherent technical precision and accuracy therein.  I believe no one of us three were football players, ((although Saxon73 was all conference in a different sport,)) Saxon73 is in wonderment as to why, with the distinguished history of Alfred football, there are not posts from actual former players.

Saxon73 feels akin to Ice Bear and Union College although he decided to choose the Alfred program, however his younger brother did go to Union and went on to the local word smith college minutes from Shocktown.  To add a little background in the spirit of Pep's historical magnificence, the first instructors for what became Alfred University were Union College graduates.

By coincidence, Saxon73 worked in Indiana for some time in a town on the Wabash river, not far from Wabash College and Saxon73 experienced the supreme hospitality of the people of the the Midwest. Saxon73 can compare this to his life experience having grown up near Utica NY and after college lived also in Myrtle Beach SC, State College PA, Albuquerque NM and Milford Ct.

Approaching 69 years of age, Saxon73 hopes the younger, more exuberant posters will continue to enjoy the opportunity Pat Coleman has established, which enables such an opportunity to meet and share thoughts, feelings and experience of D3 sports.

May each and all posters relish today's experience and carry on.

[Ice Bear]

Didn't mean any disrespect to IWU or North Central or the CCIW in general.  Let's distill what I meant into simple, easy to digest fragments:

- North Central is the best non-champion in the North region
- North Central is demonstrably better than Illinois Wesleyan and should beat them, probably comfortably, on Saturday
- If North Central is looking ahead to the tournament or otherwise not focused singularly on this game, Illinois Wesleyan- while not as good as North Central- is good enough to beat the Cardinals if the Cardinals don't have their act together.  For precedent, please refer to Concordia-Moorhead v. St. John's (2019). 

I apologize to any other Trap Game Strict Constructionists out there that I may have offended with my careless and irresponsible use of that particular colloquialism.

Ice Bear says this impressive word play is only expected from the NESCAC board. Wally, Ice says you should repost this over there to remind "those people" that there are some bright spots outside of the NESCAC world. That was some Wu-tang swordsmen type **** right there.

Ice gives a +K to WW!

Saxon73 ((and this is my first and probably last ever third person post)) appreciates this verbal exchange.  There have been comments in the past that the Alfred posters were prone to unusually precise and accurate grammar and spelling.  This may be attributed to the general aged wisdom of the three usual suspects or their background.  Pep of course has confessed many times to his journalism background; SaxonTad's profession involves word smithing, ((he can divulge if he so desires)) and Saxon73 has the coveted Glass Science degree in which most posters would likely recognize the inherent technical precision and accuracy therein.  I believe no one of us three were football players, ((although Saxon73 was all conference in a different sport,)) Saxon73 is in wonderment as to why, with the distinguished history of Alfred football, there are not posts from actual former players.

Saxon73 feels akin to Ice Bear and Union College although he decided to choose the Alfred program, however his younger brother did go to Union and went on to the local word smith college minutes from Shocktown.  To add a little background in the spirit of Pep's historical magnificence, the first instructors for what became Alfred University were Union College graduates.

By coincidence, Saxon73 worked in Indiana for some time in a town on the Wabash river, not far from Wabash College and Saxon73 experienced the supreme hospitality of the people of the the Midwest. Saxon73 can compare this to his life experience having grown up near Utica NY and after college lived also in Myrtle Beach SC, State College PA, Albuquerque NM and Milford Ct.

Approaching 69 years of age, Saxon73 hopes the younger, more exuberant posters will continue to enjoy the opportunity Pat Coleman has established, which enables such an opportunity to meet and share thoughts, feelings and experience of D3 sports.

May each and all posters relish today's experience and carry on.

Ice Bear gives a huge +k! Great post!

[Nescacman]

To our new friends on this thread....

While all of you on this thread are worried about such trivial matters as who is going to make the D3 football tourney, over in the D3 alternative universe, also known as the NESCAC, we are focused on the "Battle of the Birds" (Wesleyan v. Hartford State aka Trinity College), the "Biggest Little Game in America" (Amherst v. Williams) and Middlebury v. Tufts (Middlebury trying to become the first team in the NESCAC ever to go 9-0).

More interestingly, the Hartford NBC affiliate did a feature story on Andrus Field, the home of the Wesleyan Cardinals, "the oldest, longest continuously used college football field in America"....pretty good stuff...best game day experience in the NESCAC, hands-down IOO...great tailgating close to the field with no restrictions, great setting and excellent D3 football, NESCAC-style...enjoy a gift from the NESCAC to our friends throughout the Northeast...

https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/on-air/as-seen-on/Wesleyan-Football-Field-Rich-in-History_Hartford-564612732.html

[MRMIKESMITH]

Interesting Week 10 to say the least. Week 10 gave us the upsets the scares and the whole shebang.

[Bartman]

I am totally messed up now......I have no idea where to place Ithaca, and Union gets a "Wesleyesque" win over Utica so Salisbury is definitely No.1 for me .....well, I'll give it a shot

[MRMIKESMITH]

I think the committee thought process doesn't change to much as both MIT and WPI won and that keeps Ithaca from entering the bracket due to H2H results against RPI. Thus not giving Union that 2 RRO win, that would have moved them into #1 or #2. If the committee goes on and places Ithaca at best #10, then IMHO, you would have no choice but to put Union at a bear minimum #2. With that, see my projected East Region Rankings:

1. Salisbury (#7) (9-0) (2-0) (.482) - Clinched Pool A
2. Wesley  (#12) (9-1)(2-1) (.535) - Pool C
3. Delaware Valley (#13) (9-1)(1-1) (.520) - Clinched Pool A
4. Union (#14) (10-0)(1-0) (.508) - Clinched Pool A
5. Western New England (NR) (9-0)(1-0) (.491) - Clinched Pool A
6. Stevenson (ORV) (8-2) (0-2) (.532) - CC/MAC Bowl
7. Endicott (8-2) (0-2)(.517) - NE Bowl
8. MIT (7-2) (1-0) (.514) - Clinched Pool A
9. Hobart (NR) (8-2)(0-1) (.564)
10. WPI  (NR) (9-1) (0-1)(.482) - NE Bowl
11. Ithaca (ORV) (8-2)(0-1) (.538) - ECAC
12. Wilkes (8-2)(0-2) (.466) - CC/MAC/ECAC
13. Brockport (#22) (8-2)(0-1) (.533) - Clinched Pool A
14. Framingham State (8-2)(0-1)(.544) - Clinched Pool A
15. Cortland (ORV) (8-2)(0-0) (.466) - NY Bowl

[MRMIKESMITH]

Rank      Team             Previous    Points   
1)     Salisbury (6)         t1        60
2)     Union                 t1        54 
3)     Brockport             4         42
4)     Delaware Valley       t5        41
5)     Wesley                t5        36
6)     Cortland              7         27
7)     WNE                   9         23 
8)     Hobart                8         19
9)     Ithaca                3          9
t10)    Stevenson             10         8
t10)    WPI                   ORV        8


Dropped Out: None

RV) Endicott (2)

Key Game(s):
RPI v. Union (#2) , Ithaca (#9) vs. Cortland (#6), WPI (#10) vs. Norwich (NR), Springfield (NR) vs. MIT (NR)

Voters: MANDGSU, RAMS1102, DUTCH BOY, Ufanbill, Oline89, Bartman

[MRMIKESMITH]

My Pre-Regional (Outlook) Bracket:

1. Mount Union vs. SUNY-Maritime
2. Muhlenberg vs. MIT
3. Union vs. Western New England
4. Brockport vs. Susquehanna

1. UMHB vs. Redlands
2. Chapman vs. Linfield
3. Bridgewater (Va.) vs. Wesley
4. Berry vs. Huntington

1. Wheaton (Ill.) vs. Hanover
2. Salisbury vs. Framingham State
3. Delaware Valley vs. John Carroll
4. Case Western vs. Wabash

1. UW-Whitewater vs. Martin Luther
2. St. Johns vs. Aurora
3. North Central (Ill.) vs. MWC CHAMP
4. Central vs. Hope

[ITH radio]

https://www.facebook.com/D3Huddle/videos/550003979128370/

Our ERR reaction

[MRMIKESMITH]

So here is my updated take:

1. Mount Union (N1)(#1) vs. SUNY-Maritime (NR)(NR)
2. Muhlenberg (S2)(#5) vs. Framingham State (NR)(NR)
3. Wesley (E2)(#12) vs. Western New England (E6)(NR)
4. Union (E4)(#14) vs. Brockport (E5)(#22)

1. UMHB (S1)(#2) vs. Huntington (NR)(NR)
2. Chapman (W2)(#13) vs. Linfield (W7)(#19)
3. Delaware Valley (E3)(#11) vs. Central (W5)(#25)
4. Redlands (W3)(#18) vs. Berry (S6)(#23)

1. Salisbury (E1)(#7) vs. NEWMAC CHAMP (NR)(NR)
2. Wheaton (Ill.) (N2)(#4) vs. Hanover (N9)(NR)
3. Case Western (S5)(#20) vs. Wabash (N7)(NR)
4. Bridgewater (Va.) (S3)(#21) vs. Susquehanna (S4)(#16)

1. UW-Whitewater (W1)(#3) vs. Martin Luther (NR)(NR)
3. North Central (Ill.) (N3)(#6) vs. Monmouth (W8)(NR)
2. St. Johns (W4)(#8) vs. Aurora (N6)(NR)(NR)
4. Hope (N4)(ORV) vs. Wartburg (W6) (#24)

[UfanBill]

So here is my updated take:

1. Mount Union (N1)(#1) vs. SUNY-Maritime (NR)(NR)
2. Muhlenberg (S2)(#5) vs. Framingham State (NR)(NR)
3. Wesley (E2)(#12) vs. Western New England (E6)(NR)
4. Union (E4)(#14) vs. Brockport (E5)(#22)

1. UMHB (S1)(#2) vs. Huntington (NR)(NR)
2. Chapman (W2)(#13) vs. Linfield (W7)(#19)
3. Delaware Valley (E3)(#11) vs. Central (W5)(#25)
4. Redlands (W3)(#18) vs. Berry (S6)(#23)

1. Salisbury (E1)(#7) vs. NEWMAC CHAMP (NR)(NR)
2. Wheaton (Ill.) (N2)(#4) vs. Hanover (N9)(NR)
3. Case Western (S5)(#20) vs. Wabash (N7)(NR)
4. Bridgewater (Va.) (S3)(#21) vs. Susquehanna (S4)(#16)

1. UW-Whitewater (W1)(#3) vs. Martin Luther (NR)(NR)
3. North Central (Ill.) (N3)(#6) vs. Monmouth (W8)(NR)
2. St. Johns (W4)(#8) vs. Aurora (N6)(NR)(NR)
4. Hope (N4)(ORV) vs. Wartburg (W6) (#24)

Really ...very creative how you managed to find a path for all your favorites to the semi's. Come on man. 

[wesleydad]

So here is my updated take:

1. Mount Union (N1)(#1) vs. SUNY-Maritime (NR)(NR)
2. Muhlenberg (S2)(#5) vs. Framingham State (NR)(NR)
3. Wesley (E2)(#12) vs. Western New England (E6)(NR)
4. Union (E4)(#14) vs. Brockport (E5)(#22)

1. UMHB (S1)(#2) vs. Huntington (NR)(NR)
2. Chapman (W2)(#13) vs. Linfield (W7)(#19)
3. Delaware Valley (E3)(#11) vs. Central (W5)(#25)
4. Redlands (W3)(#18) vs. Berry (S6)(#23)

1. Salisbury (E1)(#7) vs. NEWMAC CHAMP (NR)(NR)
2. Wheaton (Ill.) (N2)(#4) vs. Hanover (N9)(NR)
3. Case Western (S5)(#20) vs. Wabash (N7)(NR)
4. Bridgewater (Va.) (S3)(#21) vs. Susquehanna (S4)(#16)

1. UW-Whitewater (W1)(#3) vs. Martin Luther (NR)(NR)
3. North Central (Ill.) (N3)(#6) vs. Monmouth (W8)(NR)
2. St. Johns (W4)(#8) vs. Aurora (N6)(NR)(NR)
4. Hope (N4)(ORV) vs. Wartburg (W6) (#24)

Really ...very creative how you managed to find a path for all your favorites to the semi's. Come on man. 

Doesn't that mean Wesley would possibly have to beat your favorite team to get there?  or don't you think your team is good enough to do the same thing?

[MRMIKESMITH]

So here is my updated take:

1. Mount Union (N1)(#1) vs. SUNY-Maritime (NR)(NR)
2. Muhlenberg (S2)(#5) vs. Framingham State (NR)(NR)
3. Wesley (E2)(#12) vs. Western New England (E6)(NR)
4. Union (E4)(#14) vs. Brockport (E5)(#22)

1. UMHB (S1)(#2) vs. Huntington (NR)(NR)
2. Chapman (W2)(#13) vs. Linfield (W7)(#19)
3. Delaware Valley (E3)(#11) vs. Central (W5)(#25)
4. Redlands (W3)(#18) vs. Berry (S6)(#23)

1. Salisbury (E1)(#7) vs. NEWMAC CHAMP (NR)(NR)
2. Wheaton (Ill.) (N2)(#4) vs. Hanover (N9)(NR)
3. Case Western (S5)(#20) vs. Wabash (N7)(NR)
4. Bridgewater (Va.) (S3)(#21) vs. Susquehanna (S4)(#16)

1. UW-Whitewater (W1)(#3) vs. Martin Luther (NR)(NR)
3. North Central (Ill.) (N3)(#6) vs. Monmouth (W8)(NR)
2. St. Johns (W4)(#8) vs. Aurora (N6)(NR)(NR)
4. Hope (N4)(ORV) vs. Wartburg (W6) (#24)

Really ...very creative how you managed to find a path for all your favorites to the semi's. Come on man. 

Doesn't that mean Wesley would possibly have to beat your favorite team to get there?  or don't you think your team is good enough to do the same thing?

This was strictly based upon what the ERR set in order for me. Do I switch S3 and S4 with E4 and E5, maybe. I do think that Union makes the jump if Ithaca beats Cortland State, but does that put Ithaca in over Endicott? Not likely.

[Bartman]

Union kicks ass, looks like the best team in the East to me.

Ithaca beats a solid RedDragon team ...Germinerio looks like Colin Kaepernick as Ithaca should move up poll, but not enough for NCAA

Hobart hopes for the invite to the  NYS MegaBowl

Brockport drops in  my poll based on Morrisville win over BPort today.

Wesley, Salisbury and WPI with lopsided wins

Delaware Valley with a squeaker over Widner...is Del Val that good?

Stevenson blanks Lycoming

Endicott finishes 8-2

Intersting to see MANDGSU projections