East Region Fan Poll

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Ice Bear

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MRMIKESMITH

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We witness some surprising fireworks this pass(t) weekend and not so much from others. The Good thing is we still have two east region teams in the final eight. Some tough games, according to Massey, Salisbury has a 15% chance and Delaware Valley a 13%.


Key Game(s):

Salisbury (#1) vs. Muhlenberg (S#2) and North Central (N#3) vs. Delaware Valley (#4)

wesleydad

Quote from: MANDGSU on December 02, 2019, 11:49:32 AM
We witness some surprising fireworks this pass(t) weekend and not so much from others. The Good thing is we still have two east region teams in the final eight. Some tough games, according to Massey, Salisbury has a 15% chance and Delaware Valley a 13%.


Key Game(s):

Salisbury (#1) vs. Muhlenberg (S#2) and North Central (N#3) vs. Delaware Valley (#4)

I think Salisbury has a much better chance of winning than Del Val does.  Both teams are playing really good squads, but I would give the Gulls a 50/50 shot where I would have Del Val at a 1 in 4 shot.

Bartman

Salisbury vs. Muhlenberg should be a great game, but Kory David is the DC for Muhlenberg and will definitely have a plan to use his athletes against the Seagulls. In addition ,if Union could pass against the Seagulls, the Mules have even a better passing game. My guess is Muhlenberg 52 Salisbury 45.

NCC has an incredible offense that should challenge Del Vals defense. This game will be a great barometer on the strengths of the East v. Central. I hope the Aggies pull it off, but I think NCC 42 and Delaware Valley 28...hope I'm wrong.
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Max McGee

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: wesleydad on December 02, 2019, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: MANDGSU on December 02, 2019, 11:49:32 AM
We witness some surprising fireworks this pass(t) weekend and not so much from others. The Good thing is we still have two east region teams in the final eight. Some tough games, according to Massey, Salisbury has a 15% chance and Delaware Valley a 13%.


Key Game(s):

Salisbury (#1) vs. Muhlenberg (S#2) and North Central (N#3) vs. Delaware Valley (#4)

I think Salisbury has a much better chance of winning than Del Val does.  Both teams are playing really good squads, but I would give the Gulls a 50/50 shot where I would have Del Val at a 1 in 4 shot.

Wesleydad.........you are being far too kind. I give them about a 1 in 100. Playing the team who just put 59 on Mount Union, on the road, and now coming back home. I've got NCC by 34.

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: MANDGSU on December 02, 2019, 11:49:32 AM
We witness some surprising fireworks this pass(t) weekend and not so much from others. The Good thing is we still have two east region teams in the final eight. Some tough games, according to Massey, Salisbury has a 15% chance and Delaware Valley a 13%.


Key Game(s):

Salisbury (#1) vs. Muhlenberg (S#2) and North Central (N#3) vs. Delaware Valley (#4)

Given that, with traffic, Muhlenberg is about 4-5 hours North (and a tad bit East) of Salisbury AND an hour North of DelVal......................I'll always count Muhlenberg as an "Eastern" team, regardless of these funky D3 regional alignments. Thus, one Eastern team is guaranteed to get to the Final Four. ;)

wesleydad

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on December 06, 2019, 02:03:45 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 02, 2019, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: MANDGSU on December 02, 2019, 11:49:32 AM
We witness some surprising fireworks this pass(t) weekend and not so much from others. The Good thing is we still have two east region teams in the final eight. Some tough games, according to Massey, Salisbury has a 15% chance and Delaware Valley a 13%.


Key Game(s):

Salisbury (#1) vs. Muhlenberg (S#2) and North Central (N#3) vs. Delaware Valley (#4)

I think Salisbury has a much better chance of winning than Del Val does.  Both teams are playing really good squads, but I would give the Gulls a 50/50 shot where I would have Del Val at a 1 in 4 shot.

Wesleydad.........you are being far too kind. I give them about a 1 in 100. Playing the team who just put 59 on Mount Union, on the road, and now coming back home. I've got NCC by 34.

Not kind at all. Del Val has a strong defense and can get pressure sending 4.  They will play to keep everything in front of them.  If they can make NCC put drives together instead of big plays they will be in it.  I am not sure how their D compares to Wheaton's but if it is close they can win this game.

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: wesleydad on December 07, 2019, 10:17:34 AM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on December 06, 2019, 02:03:45 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 02, 2019, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: MANDGSU on December 02, 2019, 11:49:32 AM
We witness some surprising fireworks this pass(t) weekend and not so much from others. The Good thing is we still have two east region teams in the final eight. Some tough games, according to Massey, Salisbury has a 15% chance and Delaware Valley a 13%.


Key Game(s):

Salisbury (#1) vs. Muhlenberg (S#2) and North Central (N#3) vs. Delaware Valley (#4)

I think Salisbury has a much better chance of winning than Del Val does.  Both teams are playing really good squads, but I would give the Gulls a 50/50 shot where I would have Del Val at a 1 in 4 shot.

Wesleydad.........you are being far too kind. I give them about a 1 in 100. Playing the team who just put 59 on Mount Union, on the road, and now coming back home. I've got NCC by 34.

Not kind at all. Del Val has a strong defense and can get pressure sending 4.  They will play to keep everything in front of them.  If they can make NCC put drives together instead of big plays they will be in it.  I am not sure how their D compares to Wheaton's but if it is close they can win this game.

Wesleydad, I must give kudos. You were right.......................and many here (myself included) were way, way, way wrong.

Let's see...........................

Oline89: NCC - 61        DelVal - 14 "DelVal gets Orangutan Mashed"

Johnny Utah: NCC - 56     DelVal - 14

Ice Bear: NCC - 52     DelVal - 10

Machiavelli: "DelVal gets absolutely destroyed". No score, but that comment puts a score in the Oline89 range of 61 - 10

Thank God we don't do predictions for a living!! :)

Total yardage: NCC - 365 (5.14 yards per play)     DelVal - 324 (5.40 yards per play)

QB Comparison: Gagliardi Finalist - 23/33, 263 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT / One Year Starter (and non-Gagliardi Finalist) - 21/36, 232 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT

Rushing Yardage: NCC - 38-102 (2.7 per carry & Greenfield held to 95 yards on 28 attempts)     DelVal - 23-92 (4.0 per carry)

**Both teams had two sacks

Statistically speaking, an incredibly close game. The huge difference was the Nigro fumble on the NCC 15 yard line. They score and it's a 24-21 game. From 17-0 at halftime to a fumble away from 24-21, to a team that went into Mount Union and put 59 points up on the road.

This DelVal defense was much better than anybody thought (see the NCC score predictions of 61, 56 and 52), especially for game #3 on the road. They gave up slightly less than half the yardage and half the points that NCC put up at Mount Union. I think the close score will shock many.......................and the game was much, much closer than the final score indicates.

DelVal has seven defensive starters back next year, starting with two more years from the Nobile brothers (DE's), their best LB and their entire secondary (3 sophs and 1 junior). This defense could be scary again next year as the LB depth in the program is very deep. Offensively, if the backup QB can hold down the fort next year, they have many returnees at RB, WR and on the OL.

With a better seeding and 2, maybe (unlikely though) 3 home games, they could return to the National Quarterfinals, maybe even the semi's if they catch a huge break here or there. All in all, a fantastic, and unexpected great season given the number of new offensive starters and youth across the board. If they have a good recruiting year, they might be right back in the National Quarters (third time in the last four years) next season!

Great job Aggies!!


Bartman

Quote from: Bartman on December 04, 2019, 05:46:25 PM
Salisbury vs. Muhlenberg should be a great game, but Kory David is the DC for Muhlenberg and will definitely have a plan to use his athletes against the Seagulls. In addition ,if Union could pass against the Seagulls, the Mules have even a better passing game. My guess is Muhlenberg 52 Salisbury 45.

NCC has an incredible offense that should challenge Del Vals defense. This game will be a great barometer on the strengths of the East v. Central. I hope the Aggies pull it off, but I think NCC 42 and Delaware Valley 28...hope I'm wrong.
Well I got the winning teams right but I thought the offenses would be more productive based on last week. Congrats to Delaware Valley and Salisbury for putting up a good fight today. Seasons to be proud of. Going forward I am a total Mules fan with Coach Mine(Hobart 2003) and DC Kory David who will get them past NCC with defense and just enough offense. Muhlenberg is an East team in my opinion, so I'm all in . With Mt. Union and Mary Hardin Baylor out, my prediction for the Stagg Bowl: St John's vs. Muhlenberg.
"I never graduated from Iowa, but I was only there for two terms - Truman's and Eisenhower's."
Alex Karras
"When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time."
Max McGee

MRMIKESMITH

Quote from: Bartman on December 07, 2019, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: Bartman on December 04, 2019, 05:46:25 PM
Salisbury vs. Muhlenberg should be a great game, but Kory David is the DC for Muhlenberg and will definitely have a plan to use his athletes against the Seagulls. In addition ,if Union could pass against the Seagulls, the Mules have even a better passing game. My guess is Muhlenberg 52 Salisbury 45.

NCC has an incredible offense that should challenge Del Vals defense. This game will be a great barometer on the strengths of the East v. Central. I hope the Aggies pull it off, but I think NCC 42 and Delaware Valley 28...hope I'm wrong.
Well I got the winning teams right but I thought the offenses would be more productive based on last week. Congrats to Delaware Valley and Salisbury for putting up a good fight today. Seasons to be proud of. Going forward I am a total Mules fan with Coach Mine(Hobart 2003) and DC Kory David who will get them past NCC with defense and just enough offense. Muhlenberg is an East team in my opinion, so I'm all in . With Mt. Union and Mary Hardin Baylor out, my prediction for the Stagg Bowl: St John's vs. Muhlenberg.

It was a tough pill to swallow today, the offense really didn't really do anything that would had force the Mules out of their initial gameplan, somewhat upsetting, but not out of offensive philosophy the past 15 to 20 years. I think the cap for Salisbury is the quarters until they truly decide to go option shot-gun spread and committ to using their skill positions to the max. Defensively, I think there was some carry-over from the Union game, which was upsetting to see, but they settled quickly, but still gave up multiple 3rd downs. Salisbury has many of their players returning in key positions offensively. Will lose a key lb and dl, but return a good bunch. Nevertheless, the philosophy offensively has to continue to grow off the passing success and defensively figure out less complicated coverage schemes or hope spring ball and this year experience help with anticipation on basic routes. It was a fun ride, I thought we'd win and still think if we had thrown some bubbles out of pistol and such, we'd had been more successful and would have put more pressure on the Mules defense instead of letting them dictate the flow of game.

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: Bartman on December 07, 2019, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: Bartman on December 04, 2019, 05:46:25 PM
Salisbury vs. Muhlenberg should be a great game, but Kory David is the DC for Muhlenberg and will definitely have a plan to use his athletes against the Seagulls. In addition ,if Union could pass against the Seagulls, the Mules have even a better passing game. My guess is Muhlenberg 52 Salisbury 45.

NCC has an incredible offense that should challenge Del Vals defense. This game will be a great barometer on the strengths of the East v. Central. I hope the Aggies pull it off, but I think NCC 42 and Delaware Valley 28...hope I'm wrong.
Well I got the winning teams right but I thought the offenses would be more productive based on last week. Congrats to Delaware Valley and Salisbury for putting up a good fight today. Seasons to be proud of. Going forward I am a total Mules fan with Coach Mine(Hobart 2003) and DC Kory David who will get them past NCC with defense and just enough offense. Muhlenberg is an East team in my opinion, so I'm all in . With Mt. Union and Mary Hardin Baylor out, my prediction for the Stagg Bowl: St John's vs. Muhlenberg.

It's not your opinion, it's a geographical fact. Forget the insane D-III regional crapola. Muhlenberg is and will always be an east team. Period. End of story.

jmcozenlaw

21 - 0 with 5 minutes left in the first quarter. I said it all week, had Nigro not fumbled at the 10 and made it a 24 - 21 game..................and had DelVal pulled off the miracle and beat North Central on the road, I would have LOVED their chances at Muhlenberg. Absolutely loved their chances!

I honestly do believe that DelVal had a better defense than Muhlenberg. They gave up 31 for the entire game (on the road) and Muhlenberg has already given up 21.

Ah, what could have been. Woulda. Coulda. Shoulda. Horseshoes and hand grenades (for those enough to remember that reference) ;)

jmcozenlaw

35 - 0, on the road, with 7 minutes left in the half.

If DelVal isn't placed ahead of Muhlenberg in the final D3 Top 25.....................it's borderline criminal (even Pat would have to agree ;) )

Greenfield had 28 rushes, at home, last week and didn't even reach 100 yards. He's got 112 so far today!

Kamienski had 7 catches for 82 yards and 1 TD. He's got 4 in the FIRST HALF (so far) today and 8 catches for 61 yards. Yikes!!!!!!

Kory David needs to go back to the drawing board for the second half!!

Teamski

Yeah, this is a disaster in progress.....

-Ski
Wesley College Football.... A Winning Tradition not to be soon forgotten!

jmcozenlaw

Math is my game. Numbers are my life (manage risk capital for people with a lot of money..........and continue to short volatility thru leveraged ETP's and ETN's ).

Here are a few numbers:

Muhlenberg has given up 7 more points, AT HOME, at THE HALF than DelVal did to North Central, ON THE ROAD, FOR THE GAME.

Muhlenberg gave up 334 yards in the FIRST HALF. DelVal gave up, on the road, 365 yards, FOR THE GAME.

Greenfield has run for 132 yards in the FIRST HALF. DelVal held him to 95 on 28 carries, FOR THE GAME.

Kamienski has 11 catches for 132 yards AND 4 TD's in the FIRST HALF. DelVal gave him 7 catches for 82 yards and 1 TD, FOR THE GAME.

Math is beautiful. Math has irrefutable laws. Math is beautiful, she's sassy. I love you math. ;)