East Region Fan Poll

Started by pg04, July 05, 2007, 09:44:54 PM

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MRMIKESMITH

Will post the poll with the voters that have turned in ballots. I'll add in Hansen and Massey for replacement...

MRMIKESMITH

Rank      Team             Previous    Points   
1t)    Salisbury (3)         1         57
1t)    Delaware Valley (3)   4         57
3)     Union                 2         46
4)     Wesley                3         35
5)     Hobart                7         32
6)     Brockport             8         30
7)     Stevenson             9         22
8)     Ithaca                5         15
9)     WNE                   6         12
10)    WPI                   t10       10


Dropped Out: Cortland State

RV) Middlebury (3), Montclair State (2), Cortland State(1)



Voters: MANDGSU, RAMS1102, DUTCH BOY, Ufanbill, Oline89, Bartman, Massey Ratings*, Hansen Ratings*

*Massey Ratings and Hansen Ratings replaced Dutch Boy and RAMS1102 for final rankings.

Thank You to all the voters that participated in this years ER rankings. Enjoy the remaining of the year and watch D3 Sports.


Bartman

#7082
Thanks for finishing this FANOFD3. It was interesting to see how our local voters placed the teams vs. D3.com. The top 4 were pretty close in both polls, the rest of the D3 poll is not as knowledgeable as the ERFP (IMO). Hobart didn't even get any points in the D3 poll, of course , I might not be totally objective  ;)



Quote from: FANOFD3 on January 07, 2020, 07:56:06 AM
Rank      Team             Previous    Points             D3.com
1t)    Salisbury (3)         1         57                   Del Val
1t)    Delaware Valley (3)   4         57                     Salisbury
3)     Union                 2         46                    Wesley
4)     Wesley                3         35                       Union
5)     Hobart                7         32                    Brockport
6)     Brockport             8         30                       Ithaca
7)     Stevenson             9         22                     Stevenson
8)     Ithaca                5         15                        WNE
9)     WNE                   6         12                         WPI
10)    WPI                   t10       10


Dropped Out: Cortland State

RV) Middlebury (3), Montclair State (2), Cortland State(1)



Voters: MANDGSU, RAMS1102, DUTCH BOY, Ufanbill, Oline89, Bartman, Massey Ratings*, Hansen Ratings*

*Massey Ratings and Hansen Ratings replaced Dutch Boy and RAMS1102 for final rankings.

Thank You to all the voters that participated in this years ER rankings. Enjoy the remaining of the year and watch D3 Sports.


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Oline89

#7083
My guess is that the national guys didn't take the post season win (Hobart) and the loss (Ithaca) into consideration. 


Quote from: Bartman on January 07, 2020, 06:21:45 PM
Thanks for finishing this FANOFD3. It was interesting to see how our local voters placed the teams vs. D3.com. The top 4 were pretty close in both polls, the rest of the D3 poll is not as knowledgeable as the ERFP (IMO). Hobart didn't even get any points in the D3 poll, of course , I might not be totally objective  ;)



Quote from: FANOFD3 on January 07, 2020, 07:56:06 AM
Rank      Team             Previous    Points             D3.com
1t)    Salisbury (3)         1         57                   Del Val
1t)    Delaware Valley (3)   4         57                     Salisbury
3)     Union                 2         46                    Wesley
4)     Wesley                3         35                       Union
5)     Hobart                7         32                    Brockport
6)     Brockport             8         30                       Ithaca
7)     Stevenson             9         22                     Stevenson
8)     Ithaca                5         15                        WNE
9)     WNE                   6         12                         WPI
10)    WPI                   t10       10


Dropped Out: Cortland State

RV) Middlebury (3), Montclair State (2), Cortland State(1)



Voters: MANDGSU, RAMS1102, DUTCH BOY, Ufanbill, Oline89, Bartman, Massey Ratings*, Hansen Ratings*

*Massey Ratings and Hansen Ratings replaced Dutch Boy and RAMS1102 for final rankings.

Thank You to all the voters that participated in this years ER rankings. Enjoy the remaining of the year and watch D3 Sports.



ITH radio

Copied this over from our FB page. It's kind of silly, I know, but hey, keep an open mind and have some fun with it like I did, if you're up for it.



Call me crazy, but I had this idea. It's kind of "fantasy football" but bear with me. Note there are some caveats (e.g., this assumes that a NESCAC team or two wouldn't be able to or otherwise join in).

Anyway, here goes:

"COVID-shuffle" / regional realignment. Goal would be a shortened but still decent sized regular season, so games would have to be mostly equitable, so teams in pods could play teams out of pods (e.g., Norwich vs. Springfield) to get to 7 or 8 regular season games.

Granite Mountain Pod (6)
• UNE
• Husson
• Maine Maritime
• Plymouth State
• Norwich
• Castleton State

South Shore Pod (6)
• Salve
• Curry
• Mass-Maritime
• Mass-Dartmouth
• Bridgewater State
• USCGA

City Pod (8 – maybe pull in USCGA or just have that be USMMA's one OOP rivalry game)
• West Conn
• William Paterson
• FDU-Florham
• Montclair State
• Rowan
• Wesley*
• USMMA
• SUNY-Maritime

Central/West Mass (10 – split into two mini-pods. Left WPI out for now given RPI and MIT decisions. They are still TBD, but have to imagine pressure is on their president to not play for PR reasons)
Worcester area ("East")
o Becker
o Anna Maria
o Dean
o Framingham St
o Worcester St
Springfield area ("West")
o Springfield
o WNE
o Nichols
o Fitchburg St
o Westfield St

Upstate NY Pod (14-team split)
"East" (7 teams)
o SLU
o Union
o Hartwick
o Utica
o Morrisville State
o Ithaca
o Cortland (could move them or IC into West as an OOP game and put a team like Hobart here instead)
"West" (7 teams)
o Hobart
o Rochester
o Buff State
o Brockport
o SJFC
o Alfred
o Alfred State

Keystone Pod (10 teams, two mini-pods, could be more if some of PAC is brought in)
• 9 PA MAC teams plus Keystone (ECFC)

Out of scope:
Southeast Pod (also would split into 7 team mini pods)
• 9 ODAC plus Catholic, Gallaudet, CNU, Salisbury and Stevenson

Also - we could possibly pull in the SE if we had a secondary PA group, e.g., the PAC which has 8 teams planning to play this fall (at the moment).

For "playoff bids"

Granite winner vs. South Shore winner = play-in (i.e., NNE pod winners).

Other pod winners will be easy if a team goes undefeated, but a little trickier in round robin and would require tiebreakers if multiple teams have one loss, kind of like how it is already.

Playoff Rd 1 (neutral, single site bubble – probably in West MA (Stagg Field?) or maybe Albany area (UofA or similar) which are probably the most equidistant location to all the others, give or take an hour or so.

Game 1 - City Champ vs. North NE Champ
Game 2 - Upstate East vs. Upstate West
Game 3 - Central MA vs. Western MA
Game 4 - Keystone 1 vs. Keystone 2 Champ

Rd 2

Game 1 vs. Game 2 winner
Game 3 vs. Game 4 winner

Regional Championship

Game 1vs2 winner vs. Game 3vs4 winner

What do you think?
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MRMIKESMITH

With Covid season ending and some schedules being released. I would be interested to have two pre-season polls. A "Too Early" and one right before the season start. Thoughts?

UfanBill

Quote from: FANOFD3 on May 21, 2021, 06:45:29 PM
With Covid season ending and some schedules being released. I would be interested to have two pre-season polls. A "Too Early" and one right before the season start. Thoughts?

"Too early"???...It's never too early to discuss D3football. This year's season in the East will be interesting, unpredictable and possibly shocking. With a handful of teams participating in Fall/Spring football did they get a jump on everybody else ??? or did the teams that just practiced fall and spring, without taking their game out of house, perfect their schemes? Then there's the question about just who is going to be on respective rosters this fall. Will most of last year's seniors take advantage of their Covid year? Have a lot of them moved on? Who transferred out to show up on a rival roster? Did younger players arrive that will seize key spots? Remember teams have 2 years of recruits added to their rosters. What about coaching changes? Schedule changes? Remember some programs have been lost. Wesley being the most prominent. ALL big questions.

At first glance the same powerful programs will probably still be on top but somewhere someplace a team has outworked, out recruited and out prepared to change and improve on what they've done in the past, and will surprise.

I'd be privileged to participate in the ERFP again this year. 
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MRMIKESMITH

Quote from: UfanBill on June 08, 2021, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: FANOFD3 on May 21, 2021, 06:45:29 PM
With Covid season ending and some schedules being released. I would be interested to have two pre-season polls. A "Too Early" and one right before the season start. Thoughts?

"Too early"???...It's never too early to discuss D3football. This year's season in the East will be interesting, unpredictable and possibly shocking. With a handful of teams participating in Fall/Spring football did they get a jump on everybody else ??? or did the teams that just practiced fall and spring, without taking their game out of house, perfect their schemes? Then there's the question about just who is going to be on respective rosters this fall. Will most of last year's seniors take advantage of their Covid year? Have a lot of them moved on? Who transferred out to show up on a rival roster? Did younger players arrive that will seize key spots? Remember teams have 2 years of recruits added to their rosters. What about coaching changes? Schedule changes? Remember some programs have been lost. Wesley being the most prominent. ALL big questions.

At first glance the same powerful programs will probably still be on top but somewhere someplace a team has outworked, out recruited and out prepared to change and improve on what they've done in the past, and will surprise.

I'd be privileged to participate in the ERFP again this year.

If I get some more interest, either on this page or via DM, will get it going.

RowanPhan

Quote from: UfanBill on June 08, 2021, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: FANOFD3 on May 21, 2021, 06:45:29 PM
With Covid season ending and some schedules being released. I would be interested to have two pre-season polls. A "Too Early" and one right before the season start. Thoughts?

"Too early"???...It's never too early to discuss D3football. This year's season in the East will be interesting, unpredictable and possibly shocking. With a handful of teams participating in Fall/Spring football did they get a jump on everybody else ??? or did the teams that just practiced fall and spring, without taking their game out of house, perfect their schemes? Then there's the question about just who is going to be on respective rosters this fall. Will most of last year's seniors take advantage of their Covid year? Have a lot of them moved on? Who transferred out to show up on a rival roster? Did younger players arrive that will seize key spots? Remember teams have 2 years of recruits added to their rosters. What about coaching changes? Schedule changes? Remember some programs have been lost. Wesley being the most prominent. ALL big questions.

At first glance the same powerful programs will probably still be on top but somewhere someplace a team has outworked, out recruited and out prepared to change and improve on what they've done in the past, and will surprise.

I'd be privileged to participate in the ERFP again this year.
I resonate with this post.  So many interesting topics, questions, and threads heading into the 2021 fall football season.  I more so think about these questions and topics as they relate to Rowan, but I bet they are relevant to all the programs. 

Go Rowan! Brown & Gold!

ITH radio

The weird part is getting us long-time fans to think outside the "East-North-South-West" boxes.

Region 1, as proposed now, would consist of:

CCC, ECFC, MASCAC, NESCAC (non-NCAA playoff, obviously), NEWMAC and MAC

Region 2 would be:

E8, LL, NJAC and CC (so no longer a "south" conf)

Region 3-6 has a breakout of the other conferences with UMHB likely being moved into Region 3 (mostly SE schools from the SAA, ODAC, etc), Region 4 including UMU / OAC, Region 5 (CCIW) and Region 6 (a super region of sorts with the MIAC, WIAC and NWC in it).

Going to be an interesting shift to say the least.
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jmcozenlaw

Quote from: ITH radio on June 17, 2021, 12:43:21 PM
The weird part is getting us long-time fans to think outside the "East-North-South-West" boxes.

Region 1, as proposed now, would consist of:

CCC, ECFC, MASCAC, NESCAC (non-NCAA playoff, obviously), NEWMAC and MAC

Region 2 would be:

E8, LL, NJAC and CC (so no longer a "south" conf)

Region 3-6 has a breakout of the other conferences with UMHB likely being moved into Region 3 (mostly SE schools from the SAA, ODAC, etc), Region 4 including UMU / OAC, Region 5 (CCIW) and Region 6 (a super region of sorts with the MIAC, WIAC and NWC in it).

Going to be an interesting shift to say the least.

I thought that any "movement" of UMHB would be to the Sam Houston St, Stephen F. Austin Region (said with tongue ever so slightly in cheek ;) )

ITH, can you get a hold of and post the Lindy's Top 25 and Preseason All-American lists somehow? I can't find it anywhere. Thanks!

ITH radio

np - just emailed it to you
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jmcozenlaw

Quote from: ITH radio on June 17, 2021, 01:37:35 PM
np - just emailed it to you

Thanks my friend. They've got DelVal wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overrated imo.

ITH radio

The whole poll is a mess tbh - only 2 ER teams is a joke too, regardless of where they were placed.
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MRMIKESMITH

Quote from: FANOFD3 on July 14, 2021, 01:47:11 PM
Open Dates:
Anna Maria - 9/4 (Wk1), 10/9 (Wk 6)
Gallaudet - 9/4 (Wk1), 9/11 (Wk2), 9/18 (Wk 3), 10/30 (Wk 9)
SUNY-Maritime - 9/4 (Wk1), 10/23 (Wk 8)
Misericordia - 9/4 (Wk 1), 11/13 (Wk 11)
Alvernia - 10/9, 10/23 (Wk 8)
Widener - 10/9 (Wk 6), 10/30 (Wk 9)
West Conn -  10/9 (Wk 6), 11/13 (Wk 11)
Plymouth State - 9/25 (Wk 4), 10/9 (Wk 6)
Curry - 9/25 (Wk 4), 10/23 (Wk 8)
UNE - 9/25 (Wk 4), 10/16 (Wk 7)
MIT - 9/18 (Wk 3), 10/9 (Wk 6)
Merchant Marine - 9/11 (Wk 2), 11/6 (Wk 10)
Salisbury - 9/18 (Wk 3), 10/9 (Wk 6)
Rowan - 9/18 (Wk 3), 10/9 (Wk 6)
TCNJ - 9/18 (Wk 3), 10/30 (Wk 9)
Kean - 9/18 (Wk 3), 11/6 (Wk 10)

Playing Matchmaker -
Widener vs. Alvernia - 10/9, as both teams are within same conference and will give both 8 conference games.
West Conn vs. Plymouth State – 10/9, as both teams are within same conference and will give each team that 8th conference game.
Misericordia vs. Gallaudet - 9/4, good opening game for new head coach that was recently at Gallaudet
SUNY-Maritime vs. Curry – 10/23, good matchup on similar quality teams and is day trip.
MIT vs. Anna Maria – 10/9, I 90 Classic
Gallaudet vs. Merchant Marine – 9/11, a good matchup of similar quality teams.
Salisbury/Rowan/TCNJ vs. Gallaudet – 9/18
MIT vs. Kean – 9/18, Kean only has 9/18 available and MIT is the filler
Rowan vs. Anna Maria – 10/9, good matchup for both teams trying to get to playoffs.

The NJAC teams are pretty much out of luck unless some other Region 3,4,5 or 6 team(s) have availability. UNE open dates can't accommodate non-conference opponents and will need help from Region 3,4,5, or 6.