East Region Fan Poll

[Jonny Utah]

who left Hobart off there ballot? i also believe Hartwick is getting a bad rep from soopafifty7...they have one bad loss but have beat an array of quality teams...i know they have been a doormat in the past but lets give credit where credit is due...i dont think anyone should have left them off a their ballot

Valid question.  Hobart actually has 2 losses (both on last second, game ending plays), but Hobart could have won either game.  Also, both the teams that barely beat Hobart are a combined 9-0 on the season.

I would challenge anyone who thinks Hobart is a "doormat".  That was certainly true for prior to the mid 90's, but since then Bart's program has been very strong.  In 2006, Bart was coming off its fifth consecutive postseason appearance (and sixth in the past seven seasons).  Hobart also boasts the highest winning perc

entage of any Division III team in New York State since the start of the 2000 season.  The Statesmen have won 77.1% of the time during that time frame, logging an impressive 54-16 mark (keep in mind this stat was before the 2007 started - regardless, even a 56-18 mark is still a very solid 75.6% since 2000).

I would argue that Hobart was pretty good in the early 1990s. (I think the #1 defense in the country in 1993........I guess that could be considered mid-nineties too)

But whats more interesting about the guy who left Hobart out, is that they had RPI at #1.

But I would also argue that nothing Hobart has done prior to last year should really be considered in this poll.  (which I had them in the middle of the pack)

[superman57]

I'm not bashing Wick...but wick needs to prove that they can win on the road...when you get smoked by WNEC and then win two very close games at home...prove it to me on saterday...stay within a touchdown of Alfred and you have my respect

[labart96]

who left Hobart off there ballot? i also believe Hartwick is getting a bad rep from soopafifty7...they have one bad loss but have beat an array of quality teams...i know they have been a doormat in the past but lets give credit where credit is due...i dont think anyone should have left them off a their ballot

Valid question.  Hobart actually has 2 losses (both on last second, game ending plays), but Hobart could have won either game.  Also, both the teams that barely beat Hobart are a combined 9-0 on the season.

I would challenge anyone who thinks Hobart is a "doormat".  That was certainly true for prior to the mid 90's, but since then Bart's program has been very strong.  In 2006, Bart was coming off its fifth consecutive postseason appearance (and sixth in the past seven seasons).  Hobart also boasts the highest winning perc

entage of any Division III team in New York State since the start of the 2000 season.  The Statesmen have won 77.1% of the time during that time frame, logging an impressive 54-16 mark (keep in mind this stat was before the 2007 started - regardless, even a 56-18 mark is still a very solid 75.6% since 2000).

I would argue that Hobart was pretty good in the early 1990s. (I think the #1 defense in the country in 1993........I guess that could be considered mid-nineties too)

But whats more interesting about the guy who left Hobart out, is that they had RPI at #1.

But I would also argue that nothing Hobart has done prior to last year should really be considered in this poll.  (which I had them in the middle of the pack)

We did have the #1 D in 93 and should have had our first NCAA playoff appearance if not for those damn RPI Engineers.  That 20-15 loss was crushing.  Especially after we had shut out the #2 team in the Country the week before 10-0.

Bart struggled a bit from 94-96 (going a combined 12-18), but starting having winning seasons in 97.

[Jonny Utah]

who left Hobart off there ballot? i also believe Hartwick is getting a bad rep from soopafifty7...they have one bad loss but have beat an array of quality teams...i know they have been a doormat in the past but lets give credit where credit is due...i dont think anyone should have left them off a their ballot

Valid question.  Hobart actually has 2 losses (both on last second, game ending plays), but Hobart could have won either game.  Also, both the teams that barely beat Hobart are a combined 9-0 on the season.

I would challenge anyone who thinks Hobart is a "doormat".  That was certainly true for prior to the mid 90's, but since then Bart's program has been very strong.  In 2006, Bart was coming off its fifth consecutive postseason appearance (and sixth in the past seven seasons).  Hobart also boasts the highest winning perc

entage of any Division III team in New York State since the start of the 2000 season.  The Statesmen have won 77.1% of the time during that time frame, logging an impressive 54-16 mark (keep in mind this stat was before the 2007 started - regardless, even a 56-18 mark is still a very solid 75.6% since 2000).

I would argue that Hobart was pretty good in the early 1990s. (I think the #1 defense in the country in 1993........I guess that could be considered mid-nineties too)

But whats more interesting about the guy who left Hobart out, is that they had RPI at #1.

But I would also argue that nothing Hobart has done prior to last year should really be considered in this poll.  (which I had them in the middle of the pack)

We did have the #1 D in 93 and should have had our first NCAA playoff appearance if not for those damn RPI Engineers.  That 20-15 loss was crushing.  Especially after we had shut out the #2 team in the Country the week before 10-0.

Bart struggled a bit from 94-96 (going a combined 12-18), but starting having winning seasons in 97.

Buff St. was #2 in the country I forgot about that.....

[union89]

who left Hobart off there ballot? i also believe Hartwick is getting a bad rep from soopafifty7...they have one bad loss but have beat an array of quality teams...i know they have been a doormat in the past but lets give credit where credit is due...i dont think anyone should have left them off a their ballot

Valid question.  Hobart actually has 2 losses (both on last second, game ending plays), but Hobart could have won either game.  Also, both the teams that barely beat Hobart are a combined 9-0 on the season.

I would challenge anyone who thinks Hobart is a "doormat".  That was certainly true for prior to the mid 90's, but since then Bart's program has been very strong.  In 2006, Bart was coming off its fifth consecutive postseason appearance (and sixth in the past seven seasons).  Hobart also boasts the highest winning perc

entage of any Division III team in New York State since the start of the 2000 season.  The Statesmen have won 77.1% of the time during that time frame, logging an impressive 54-16 mark (keep in mind this stat was before the 2007 started - regardless, even a 56-18 mark is still a very solid 75.6% since 2000).

I would argue that Hobart was pretty good in the early 1990s. (I think the #1 defense in the country in 1993........I guess that could be considered mid-nineties too)

But whats more interesting about the guy who left Hobart out, is that they had RPI at #1.

But I would also argue that nothing Hobart has done prior to last year should really be considered in this poll.  (which I had them in the middle of the pack)

I hate to admit, it is I.....U89 who left Hobart off my ballot.  I wrestled with this one, but feel that a team I had ranked #9 pre-season....then loses 2 games deserves to be either #10 or just outside the top 10 (which is where I have them).  I never claimed Hobart was a doormat, but to state they had ridiculas defenses in the late '90's and early '00's is irrelevant to this arguement.

Granted, Hobart lost 2 close games to good teams, they also have not dominated anyone in their wins.  I respect the program, but a team which started at #9 does not deserve to move up while giving up over 30 points a game IMO. 

[lewdogg11]

I think there was some miscommunication where someone called Hartwick a doormat, and it got mistaken as Hobart because there was a comment about Hobart int he same paragraph. 

i don't think anyone thinks of Hobart as a doormat.

[labart96]

Given the history between Bart and Union, I am not surprised that a Union alum would leave Bart off their list - probably the same reason that I left Union off my list too 

[union89]

Given the history between Bart and Union, I am not surprised that a Union alum would leave Bart off their list - probably the same reason that I left Union off my list too 

Hobart is far ahead of Union my friend....hopefully both will be there late in the season.

[superman57]

I think there was some miscommunication where someone called Hartwick a doormat, and it got mistaken as Hobart because there was a comment about Hobart int he same paragraph. 

i don't think anyone thinks of Hobart as a doormat.

It's RPI that is the doormat... just kidding

[rams1102]

The 1 thru 4 or 4 thru 1, I have no problems with. I would like to hear some logic for TCNJ (6) IMHO should be lower, Hobart (5) should be lower, and Montclair (9), should be higher. I know I'm a homer for Montclair, but down to #9

[labart96]

I agree with you in a way about Montclair.  However, they could have been dropped down b/c of Springfield's subsequent spanking at the hands of Alfred after Week 3.  Suddenly MSU's Week 2 narrow victory over them carried less wait.

Obviously I am a homer too, but Hobart at #5 makes sense to me. 

[labart96]

Given the history between Bart and Union, I am not surprised that a Union alum would leave Bart off their list - probably the same reason that I left Union off my list too 

Hobart is far ahead of Union my friend....hopefully both will be there late in the season.

This may be true now, but there's a long way to go to Week/Game 9.

I will agree, however, that so far Bart's QB and offense have been playing much better than expected (at least after the fumble rama in Week 1), but Bart's D is still an issue in my book.

[Boxer7806]

in regards to my earlier post i was not referring Hobart to a doormat but Hartwick as the doormat...sorry about the confusion... but i still do believe Hartwick is not getting the respect they deserved...home field advantage in D3 is overrated i believe and beating st johns fisher and ithaca at home or not should garner respect from the rest of the leauge in my eyes

[superman57]

no obviously homefield means a lot to wick beacuse they got routed by WNEC...so lets wait and see what they do against a very dangerous Alfred

[Boxer7806]

Does anyone in the poll believe that Hartwick will go to Alfred this weekend or win?