East Region Fan Poll

Started by pg04, July 05, 2007, 09:44:54 PM

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Pat Coleman

There's precedent for Plymouth State staying home at 9-1. In 2005, three two-loss Pool C teams went ahead of 8-1 Bridgewater State and Cal Lutheran. Similarly, Monmouth stayed home at 9-1 in 2004 in favor of 8-2 Christopher Newport.

Winning percentage isn't the only thing. I think the regional rankings will show that this week.

It's not an oddity coming together, it's a non-story.
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Frank Rossi

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 21, 2007, 09:45:41 PM
There's precedent for Plymouth State staying home at 9-1. In 2005, three two-loss Pool C teams went ahead of 8-1 Bridgewater State and Cal Lutheran. Similarly, Monmouth stayed home at 9-1 in 2004 in favor of 8-2 Christopher Newport.

Winning percentage isn't the only thing. I think the regional rankings will show that this week.

It's not an oddity coming together, it's a non-story.

As I said, winning percentage is NOT the only thing.  PSU is going to have a jump in SoS this week, if I had to guess.  The table is set for them to have a legitimate argument this year with just 35 teams right now at 0 or 1 loss in the entire country.  By the end of the season in three weeks, there could be only 24 or 25 teams in that position (excluding NEFC and NESCAC) -- add the NEFC winner and maybe four teams with 2 or more losses winning their conferences.  That's just 29 teams out of 32.  The Committee is going to have to justify picking three two-loss teams from Pool C over a potentiall one-loss NEFC runner-up this year.  That's going to be tough to justify, especially if the East Region can't easily muster any Pool C teams (the E8 is about the only remaining hope in that department), and if PSU's SoS remains at its current level. 

My point is that while there may be history for PSU to be shafted at 9-1, this isn't the same type of season the way the standings are panning out.

FisherAlum05

If Plymouth State gets a Pool C at 9-1, over an 8-2 runner up from the E8 NJAC or LL, that would be crazy.  Going 8-2 in these conferences is tough.  I'm not bashing the NEFC, just praising the parity that exists in the big East region conferences.  If Plymouth State at 9-1 got in over, say, 8-2 Fisher or 8-2 Hobart or 8-2 New Jersey or 8-2 Cortland, I would be very surprised.  But not that surprised I guess since crazier things have happened. 

All I know is that things are turning out to be very exciting in the East and I think it tells us just how competitive the football is in our region.  We should be proud!
St. John Fisher College...King of the East

Frank Rossi

Quote from: FisherAlum05 on October 22, 2007, 01:39:55 PM
If Plymouth State gets a Pool C at 9-1, over an 8-2 runner up from the E8 NJAC or LL, that would be crazy.  Going 8-2 in these conferences is tough.  I'm not bashing the NEFC, just praising the parity that exists in the big East region conferences.  If Plymouth State at 9-1 got in over, say, 8-2 Fisher or 8-2 Hobart or 8-2 New Jersey or 8-2 Cortland, I would be very surprised.  But not that surprised I guess since crazier things have happened. 

All I know is that things are turning out to be very exciting in the East and I think it tells us just how competitive the football is in our region.  We should be proud!

All I can say is for you to keep your eye on the SoS over the next few weeks if teams keep winning in this scenario.

Pat Coleman

Ehh, we used to use OWP and OOWP in the past and the committee knew how to deal with teams in closed conferences. Those OOWPs almost always revert to .500 because there are little to no outside games.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Frank Rossi

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2007, 02:27:47 PM
Ehh, we used to use OWP and OOWP in the past and the committee knew how to deal with teams in closed conferences. Those OOWPs almost always revert to .500 because there are little to no outside games.

Yeah, I think I point out how the OOWP looks like baseball standings -- with very few teams outside the .425 to .575 thresholds.  Plymouth State's biggest schedule anomaly is that it has a non-conference game...against Coast Guard.  Love that one.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 22, 2007, 02:34:20 PM
Yeah, I think I point out how the OOWP looks like baseball standings -- with very few teams outside the .425 to .575 thresholds.  Plymouth State's biggest schedule anomaly is that it has a non-conference game...against Coast Guard.  Love that one.

That's actually not an anomaly. All of the NEFC teams play a crossover game. Plymouth has an non-conference game, but it's against Mount Ida.

Also remember Plymouth State can only go 8-1.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Frank Rossi

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2007, 02:38:25 PM
Quote from: Frank Rossi on October 22, 2007, 02:34:20 PM
Yeah, I think I point out how the OOWP looks like baseball standings -- with very few teams outside the .425 to .575 thresholds.  Plymouth State's biggest schedule anomaly is that it has a non-conference game...against Coast Guard.  Love that one.

That's actually not an anomaly. All of the NEFC teams play a crossover game. Plymouth has an non-conference game, but it's against Mount Ida.

Also remember Plymouth State can only go 8-1.

Yep, my bad on that -- Only two games left for them.

pg04

Well 3 people have yet to put in the poll, if I don't get at least 9 I will not post. 

FisherAlum05

PG,

I would have done the poll.  If people aren't doing it, why did they volunteer in the first place?  Let me know if you need me to do it.  Unless its too late.  After work, D3 football and this board is basically my life.  Sad, I know.
St. John Fisher College...King of the East

pg04

Unfortunately we have a Fisher voter(s) already.  Also for consistency sake of the poll it's better to keep the same people, but thanks for offering....We'll see if the missing parties show up! 

union89

Quote from: FisherAlum05 on October 22, 2007, 07:35:34 PM
PG,

I would have done the poll.  If people aren't doing it, why did they volunteer in the first place?  Let me know if you need me to do it.  Unless its too late.  After work, D3 football and this board is basically my life.  Sad, I know.


Can we all relax a bit....due by 8 pm....

lewdogg11

Quote from: Union89 on October 22, 2007, 07:56:01 PM
Quote from: FisherAlum05 on October 22, 2007, 07:35:34 PM
PG,

I would have done the poll.  If people aren't doing it, why did they volunteer in the first place?  Let me know if you need me to do it.  Unless its too late.  After work, D3 football and this board is basically my life.  Sad, I know.


Can we all relax a bit....due by 8 pm....

Seriously, relax.  We don't need more guys ranking SJF 1, 2, AND 3. 

Jonny Utah

Quote from: Union89 on October 22, 2007, 07:56:01 PM
Quote from: FisherAlum05 on October 22, 2007, 07:35:34 PM
PG,

I would have done the poll.  If people aren't doing it, why did they volunteer in the first place?  Let me know if you need me to do it.  Unless its too late.  After work, D3 football and this board is basically my life.  Sad, I know.


Can we all relax a bit....due by 8 pm....

Heres my top 10.....

1- The Boston Red Sox
2- Randy Moss' hands
3- Tom Brady's arm
4- The 1994 Ithaca College Football team
5- The Boston Celtics
6- Josh Beckett
7- Bill Belichick's evil brain
6- Coco Crisp's spot on the bench
7- Manny Ramirez's post-game interviews
8- The choking throats of every New York Yankee
9- Eric Mangini's defensive signals
10- Eric Gagne's last inning of his Red Sox career.....

11- My first grade teacher who taught me to count to 11......

lewdogg11

Quote from: Jonny Utah on October 22, 2007, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: Union89 on October 22, 2007, 07:56:01 PM
Quote from: FisherAlum05 on October 22, 2007, 07:35:34 PM
PG,

I would have done the poll.  If people aren't doing it, why did they volunteer in the first place?  Let me know if you need me to do it.  Unless its too late.  After work, D3 football and this board is basically my life.  Sad, I know.


Can we all relax a bit....due by 8 pm....

Heres my top 10.....

1- The Boston Red Sox
2- Randy Moss' hands
3- Tom Brady's arm
4- The 1994 Ithaca College Football team
5- The Boston Celtics
6- Josh Beckett
7- Bill Belichick's evil brain
6- Coco Crisp's spot on the bench
7- Manny Ramirez's post-game interviews
8- The choking throats of every New York Yankee
9- Eric Mangini's defensive signals
10- Eric Gagne's last inning of his Red Sox career.....

11- My first grade teacher who taught me to count to 11......

Say what you want about Coco, he is a pimp with the ladies...