East Region Fan Poll

[labart96]

In general I think the East Region is showing parity across the board.  Any given Saturday and pretty much any top team from the LL, E8, NJAC, MAC, etc could beat the other (well, maybe not the MAC - kind of a down year for them). 

Makes the playoff prospects very interesting.  Unfortunately I don't see the East Region Champ hanging with anyone once the Regionals or Semis roll around.  I think that Wesley (MSU loss not withstanding) and/or Muhlenberg from the CC would still be favored by a TD if not 10 pts against any of the LL, E8, NJAC, or MAC champs.  It's just one of those years.

I am still not buying SJF as a "Tier 1".  Of course the 2 TD win at IC is impressive, but the loss to Wick shows that this year's SJF squad is not on the same level as the 2006 team.  I am still sticking to my guns that Robinson was a once in 20 yrs type of player and even with a lot of returning starters, losing him does make SJF a little less extraordinary.

At this stage I'd lump everyone except for TCNJ in Tier 2.  The fact that they've wrapped up the NJAC with a week to play is impressive no matter how you slice it.  The contenders in the LL and E8 races should be so lucky.

[Jonny Utah]

In general I think the East Region is showing parity across the board.  Any given Saturday and pretty much any top team from the LL, E8, NJAC, MAC, etc could beat the other. 

Makes the playoff prospects very interesting.  Unfortunately I don't see the East Region Champ hanging with anyone once the Regionals or Semis roll around.  I think that Wesley (MSU loss not withstanding) and/or Muhlenberg from the CC would still be favored by a TD if not 10 pts against any of the LL, E8, NJAC, or MAC champs.  It's just one of those years.

I am still not buying SJF as a "Tier 1".  Of course the 2 TD win at IC is impressive, but the loss to Wick shows that this year's SJF squad is not on the same level as the 2006 team.  Robinson was once in 20 yrs type of players and even with a lot of returning starters, losing him does make SJF a little less extraordinary.

At this stage I'd lump everyone except for TCNJ in Tier 2.  The fact that they've wrapped up the NJAC with a week to play is impressive no matter how you slice it.  The contenders in the LL and E8 races should be so lucky.

Yea but if you put 2 points the other way (sjf/wick), we would still be talking about SJF being one of the best teams in the country right now.  TCNJ has a loss too, as well as 6 close games to all sorts of teams....

[labart96]

In general I think the East Region is showing parity across the board.  Any given Saturday and pretty much any top team from the LL, E8, NJAC, MAC, etc could beat the other. 

Makes the playoff prospects very interesting.  Unfortunately I don't see the East Region Champ hanging with anyone once the Regionals or Semis roll around.  I think that Wesley (MSU loss not withstanding) and/or Muhlenberg from the CC would still be favored by a TD if not 10 pts against any of the LL, E8, NJAC, or MAC champs.  It's just one of those years.

I am still not buying SJF as a "Tier 1".  Of course the 2 TD win at IC is impressive, but the loss to Wick shows that this year's SJF squad is not on the same level as the 2006 team.  Robinson was once in 20 yrs type of players and even with a lot of returning starters, losing him does make SJF a little less extraordinary.

At this stage I'd lump everyone except for TCNJ in Tier 2.  The fact that they've wrapped up the NJAC with a week to play is impressive no matter how you slice it.  The contenders in the LL and E8 races should be so lucky.

Yea but if you put 2 points the other way (sjf/wick), we would still be talking about SJF being one of the best teams in the country right now.  TCNJ has a loss too, as well as 6 close games to all sorts of teams....

True to an extent, but even if they didn't lose to Wick I still wouldn't be on the SJF wagon.  Don't get me wrong, I think the Cardinals are a very good team, but one of the best the country?  Not this season.  Losing Robinson was huge.  I never believed the #5 ranking in the preseason and still don't believe the SJF hype.  Maybe they will prove me wrong, but until then I will remain a skeptic.

[Jonny Utah]

In general I think the East Region is showing parity across the board.  Any given Saturday and pretty much any top team from the LL, E8, NJAC, MAC, etc could beat the other. 

Makes the playoff prospects very interesting.  Unfortunately I don't see the East Region Champ hanging with anyone once the Regionals or Semis roll around.  I think that Wesley (MSU loss not withstanding) and/or Muhlenberg from the CC would still be favored by a TD if not 10 pts against any of the LL, E8, NJAC, or MAC champs.  It's just one of those years.

I am still not buying SJF as a "Tier 1".  Of course the 2 TD win at IC is impressive, but the loss to Wick shows that this year's SJF squad is not on the same level as the 2006 team.  Robinson was once in 20 yrs type of players and even with a lot of returning starters, losing him does make SJF a little less extraordinary.

At this stage I'd lump everyone except for TCNJ in Tier 2.  The fact that they've wrapped up the NJAC with a week to play is impressive no matter how you slice it.  The contenders in the LL and E8 races should be so lucky.

Yea but if you put 2 points the other way (sjf/wick), we would still be talking about SJF being one of the best teams in the country right now.  TCNJ has a loss too, as well as 6 close games to all sorts of teams....

True to an extent, but even if they didn't lose to Wick I still wouldn't be on the SJF wagon.  Don't get me wrong, I think the Cardinals are a very good team, but one of the best the country?  Not this season.  Losing Robinson was huge.  I never believed the #5 ranking in the preseason and still don't believe the SJF hype.  Maybe they will prove me wrong, but until then I will remain a skeptic.

Yea I really have no idea what teams have what good players comming back.  Im never sold on anybody at the beginning of the season....

[SJFF82]

In general I think the East Region is showing parity across the board.  Any given Saturday and pretty much any top team from the LL, E8, NJAC, MAC, etc could beat the other. 

Makes the playoff prospects very interesting.  Unfortunately I don't see the East Region Champ hanging with anyone once the Regionals or Semis roll around.  I think that Wesley (MSU loss not withstanding) and/or Muhlenberg from the CC would still be favored by a TD if not 10 pts against any of the LL, E8, NJAC, or MAC champs.  It's just one of those years.

I am still not buying SJF as a "Tier 1".  Of course the 2 TD win at IC is impressive, but the loss to Wick shows that this year's SJF squad is not on the same level as the 2006 team.  Robinson was once in 20 yrs type of players and even with a lot of returning starters, losing him does make SJF a little less extraordinary.

At this stage I'd lump everyone except for TCNJ in Tier 2.  The fact that they've wrapped up the NJAC with a week to play is impressive no matter how you slice it.  The contenders in the LL and E8 races should be so lucky.

Yea but if you put 2 points the other way (sjf/wick), we would still be talking about SJF being one of the best teams in the country right now.  TCNJ has a loss too, as well as 6 close games to all sorts of teams....

True to an extent, but even if they didn't lose to Wick I still wouldn't be on the SJF wagon.  Don't get me wrong, I think the Cardinals are a very good team, but one of the best the country?  Not this season.  Losing Robinson was huge.  I never believed the #5 ranking in the preseason and still don't believe the SJF hype.  Maybe they will prove me wrong, but until then I will remain a skeptic.

I think that there are over 300 D3 teams in the country...how many do you think are better than SJF?  Nonetheless I do agree with what I believe to be your overall point that they are not as good as last year.  Bottom line is that they are still the consensus choice to represent the East in the final 4...

[DanPadavona]

Yea but I dont think anyone is saying that Hartwick is the best team in the league.  In fact, if you took a poll, Im sure most people would say Hartwick is the 4th best team in the league ahead of 5th best Springfield. 

I have a hard time resolving that, since they beat SJF and Ithaca head-to-head.  Also, I think Ithaca is playing a lot better now than they were at the beginning of the year.  I'm not sure Fisher could win convincingly at Butterfield in Week 11.

I really have no feel for how this is going to play out Jonny.  My guess is Cortland gets left out even if they win Cortaca, because the TCNJ loss was so convincing, and the Brockport loss is rather ugly in retrospect.  I haven't seen quite this much parity in the East in a long time.  In some ways, that is not a good thing.  Because there may not be a team good enough to win out of region once we hit the semi finals.

[Jonny Utah]

Yea but I dont think anyone is saying that Hartwick is the best team in the league.  In fact, if you took a poll, Im sure most people would say Hartwick is the 4th best team in the league ahead of 5th best Springfield. 

I have a hard time resolving that, since they beat SJF and Ithaca head-to-head.  Also, I think Ithaca is playing a lot better now than they were at the beginning of the year.  I'm not sure Fisher could win convincingly at Butterfield in Week 11.

I really have no feel for how this is going to play out Jonny.  My guess is Cortland gets left out even if they win Cortaca, because the TCNJ loss was so convincing, and the Brockport loss is rather ugly in retrospect.  I haven't seen quite this much parity in the East in a long time.  In some ways, that is not a good thing.  Because there may not be a team good enough to win out of region once we hit the semi finals.

Yea I think Cortland or Ithaca needs to blow out each other in order for either to make it.  Utica beating Hartwick seems like the biggest help IC could get.

[mpf1975]

Yea but I dont think anyone is saying that Hartwick is the best team in the league.  In fact, if you took a poll, Im sure most people would say Hartwick is the 4th best team in the league ahead of 5th best Springfield. 

It's not what people think, its what happens on the field.  Wick beat IC: Wick beat SJF: Wick beat SC: - only loss on the to AU after a killer early schedule.  Wick deserves to be the E8 champ or co-champ.  It is not a fluke - give them some well earned respect. 

By the way, I would not want to play them in the playoffs.  Ask IC or SJF.



I have a hard time resolving that, since they beat SJF and Ithaca head-to-head.  Also, I think Ithaca is playing a lot better now than they were at the beginning of the year.  I'm not sure Fisher could win convincingly at Butterfield in Week 11.

I really have no feel for how this is going to play out Jonny.  My guess is Cortland gets left out even if they win Cortaca, because the TCNJ loss was so convincing, and the Brockport loss is rather ugly in retrospect.  I haven't seen quite this much parity in the East in a long time.  In some ways, that is not a good thing.  Because there may not be a team good enough to win out of region once we hit the semi finals.

Yea I think Cortland or Ithaca needs to blow out each other in order for either to make it.  Utica beating Hartwick seems like the biggest help IC could get.

[mpf1975]

Yea but I dont think anyone is saying that Hartwick is the best team in the league.  In fact, if you took a poll, Im sure most people would say Hartwick is the 4th best team in the league ahead of 5th best Springfield. 

I have a hard time resolving that, since they beat SJF and Ithaca head-to-head.  Also, I think Ithaca is playing a lot better now than they were at the beginning of the year.  I'm not sure Fisher could win convincingly at Butterfield in Week 11.

I really have no feel for how this is going to play out Jonny.  My guess is Cortland gets left out even if they win Cortaca, because the TCNJ loss was so convincing, and the Brockport loss is rather ugly in retrospect.  I haven't seen quite this much parity in the East in a long time.  In some ways, that is not a good thing.  Because there may not be a team good enough to win out of region once we hit the semi finals.

Yea I think Cortland or Ithaca needs to blow out each other in order for either to make it.  Utica beating Hartwick seems like the biggest help IC could get.

[Jonny Utah]

Yea but I dont think anyone is saying that Hartwick is the best team in the league.  In fact, if you took a poll, Im sure most people would say Hartwick is the 4th best team in the league ahead of 5th best Springfield. 

It's not what people think, its what happens on the field.  Wick beat IC: Wick beat SJF: Wick beat SC: - only loss on the to AU after a killer early schedule.  Wick deserves to be the E8 champ or co-champ.  It is not a fluke - give them some well earned respect. 

By the way, I would not want to play them in the playoffs.  Ask IC or SJF.



I have a hard time resolving that, since they beat SJF and Ithaca head-to-head.  Also, I think Ithaca is playing a lot better now than they were at the beginning of the year.  I'm not sure Fisher could win convincingly at Butterfield in Week 11.

I really have no feel for how this is going to play out Jonny.  My guess is Cortland gets left out even if they win Cortaca, because the TCNJ loss was so convincing, and the Brockport loss is rather ugly in retrospect.  I haven't seen quite this much parity in the East in a long time.  In some ways, that is not a good thing.  Because there may not be a team good enough to win out of region once we hit the semi finals.

Yea I think Cortland or Ithaca needs to blow out each other in order for either to make it.  Utica beating Hartwick seems like the biggest help IC could get.

Well no, its not always what happens on the field.  Thats why they include SOS, in region games vs ranked teams and all that other stuff.........

[DanPadavona]

Agreed.  Especially this year when there are so many triangles which cannot be solved for.  If Fisher beats Alfred, then you'll have another one between Fisher, Hartwick, and Alfred.

[pg04]

FYI to all...my computer is on the fritz at home so I will be delayed in posting the Poll.  Hopefully it will be out tomorrow night if I can get all settled...

Sorry for the delay!

[SJFF82]

Yea but I dont think anyone is saying that Hartwick is the best team in the league.  In fact, if you took a poll, Im sure most people would say Hartwick is the 4th best team in the league ahead of 5th best Springfield. 

  I haven't seen quite this much parity in the East in a long time.  In some ways, that is not a good thing.  Because there may not be a team good enough to win out of region once we hit the semi finals.

I agree...I have posted this same position on E8 board.  I do not see a 'Rowanesque' power this year that can compete at the national level.  The East's only hope is that a strong SJF, TCNJ, RPI, or the like takes the monentum of 3 straight play-off victories and turns it into an upset win over a Whitewater or MUC, etc...

[FisherAlum05]

Hopefully the East Region champ can meet the South or West champ in the semi-finals.  That would give us a better chance to meet Mount Union in the Stagg Bowl.  Cause I don't think anybody from the East can beat Mount this season.  BUT I hope I'm wrong!

[lewdogg11]

Hopefully the East Region champ can meet the South or West champ in the semi-finals.  That would give us a better chance to meet Mount Union in the Stagg Bowl.  Cause I don't think anybody from the East can beat Mount this season.  BUT I hope I'm wrong!

By the looks of things...East, West, South...Who gives a sh!t...It doesn't look like anyone is beating Mt. Union.